American woman upset that her husband "cockblocks" her
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sylo said:
Here's the "alpha":
Honestly, this is an ugly couple with a girl who's so insecure she needs constant validation about her looks so she flirts with any guy who gives her the time of day.
She keeps her beta bf because she knows she cannot do better, and he is willing to put up with her abhorrent behavior.
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
I want to add one observation I've made over the past few months:
I've noticed that there's an epidemic of unremarkable-looking, nerdy chicks on OKC calling themselves "polyamorous" and claiming to be in "open relationships." I mean, it's super-common. I can't help but think that all of this is somehow connected to that broader trend.
I think there's some sort of surge in these less-than-attractive girls getting into LTRs with traditional betas, who satisfy their relationship craving, but then turning around--because they can get away with it--and getting dickings from higher-value dudes who don't mind fucking them. They walk all over their betas boyfriends (or husbands) with social confidence borne from the erosion of slut-shaming in our society. The higher-value dudes go after them for the easy bang, since they are suffering themselves from (or exploiting) the dating-market pressures created by the obesity epidemic.
Examples. All three of these chicks used the terms above in their profiles. There tons of others like this.
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EDIT: A lot of these chicks also have the audacity to include links to their boyfriends' profiles. Sometimes, some of their pictures will have the dude (who invariably looks chumpy) in them! At least two of the ones above did this.
I've noticed that there's an epidemic of unremarkable-looking, nerdy chicks on OKC calling themselves "polyamorous" and claiming to be in "open relationships." I mean, it's super-common. I can't help but think that all of this is somehow connected to that broader trend.
I think there's some sort of surge in these less-than-attractive girls getting into LTRs with traditional betas, who satisfy their relationship craving, but then turning around--because they can get away with it--and getting dickings from higher-value dudes who don't mind fucking them. They walk all over their betas boyfriends (or husbands) with social confidence borne from the erosion of slut-shaming in our society. The higher-value dudes go after them for the easy bang, since they are suffering themselves from (or exploiting) the dating-market pressures created by the obesity epidemic.
Examples. All three of these chicks used the terms above in their profiles. There tons of others like this.
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EDIT: A lot of these chicks also have the audacity to include links to their boyfriends' profiles. Sometimes, some of their pictures will have the dude (who invariably looks chumpy) in them! At least two of the ones above did this.
RioNomad said:
Agreed 100%! That dude has ONEITIS!
But I gotta say that is one of the nerdiest couples I've seen.
America: Where Ugly Girls Have Unlimited Sexual Choices
I weep for men who are there but hate it. When I come back this year, it will be a short enough time to where I can go without sex the entire period. I don't even want to interact with them. I don't want them to transform my mindset every night to once again preparing myself for stupid battles in the bar.
I weep for men who are there but hate it. When I come back this year, it will be a short enough time to where I can go without sex the entire period. I don't even want to interact with them. I don't want them to transform my mindset every night to once again preparing myself for stupid battles in the bar.
Roosh, I'm pretty sure it's not just America, the same goes for UK and Australia.
Roosh, Who bangs the fatties in the other countries you visit? Someones got to be. No?bengalltigerr said:
Tuth, that's a good analysis. One thing though - I don't think that behavior is limited to ugly girls. I was actually talking to a polyamorous chick yesterday who actually was cute. I think she blocked me after I asked a little too candidly about her relationship.
I see a 'lite' version of this a lot. I'm thinking of a particular girl for the purposes of demonstration. Like you say, the boyfriend proves to her friends she can hold down a man, and he's like a home base that she returns to whenever she's bored or lonely, while the other men provide drama and excitement. She flirts blatantly, but she won't actively try to cheat, eg by going on a date with you. If you happen to be around, and she's apart from her girlfriends, and she's been drinking... all bets are off. She's a little too shy to make the transition to a polyamorous relationship usually, but availing herself to weird subcultures can change that.
Somewhat off-topic, but it's ridiculous to hear girls talk about celebrities. About which guys are hot, which aren't, etc. The same girl who a) is a 3-5 and b) has already called you a pig for making the slightest sexual comments about another woman. I was checking out an apartment some time ago, and this ugly chubby girl showing it had several pictures of several different handsome actors on her wall. I feel like there's no possible way these women can be satisfied in life, they've got champagne tastes and McJob money. Thus the women you see here.
I see a 'lite' version of this a lot. I'm thinking of a particular girl for the purposes of demonstration. Like you say, the boyfriend proves to her friends she can hold down a man, and he's like a home base that she returns to whenever she's bored or lonely, while the other men provide drama and excitement. She flirts blatantly, but she won't actively try to cheat, eg by going on a date with you. If you happen to be around, and she's apart from her girlfriends, and she's been drinking... all bets are off. She's a little too shy to make the transition to a polyamorous relationship usually, but availing herself to weird subcultures can change that.
Somewhat off-topic, but it's ridiculous to hear girls talk about celebrities. About which guys are hot, which aren't, etc. The same girl who a) is a 3-5 and b) has already called you a pig for making the slightest sexual comments about another woman. I was checking out an apartment some time ago, and this ugly chubby girl showing it had several pictures of several different handsome actors on her wall. I feel like there's no possible way these women can be satisfied in life, they've got champagne tastes and McJob money. Thus the women you see here.
el mechanico said:
African dudes takes care of the fatties. Italian and Spanish dudes sometimes go for fatties but they do it more discreetly. The Africans wife up the fatties, take them to the mall and what not.
Local dudes bang fatties if they are fat themselves. It's very very rare to see a thin E. European man with a true fattie. In the past several months I've seen it maybe a couple times.
Tuthmosis said:
You are 100% correct. In fact, this trend is at least 10 years in the making. I know a ton of geeky girls that are into polyamory. The one distinction I would make is that, for the most part, they are fucking around with guys either the same level or maybe 1 notch above their boyfriends. So you have a 4 girl, who is married to a 4 guy, and is banging a few other 4's and the occasional 5 on the side.
It is all a form of compensation for not being able to get and hold the high quality guys they THINK that they deserve. It reminds me of what my uncle used to say "I've never been with a 10, but I've had a 4 and two 3's." :twisted: The husband is so omega that he just takes it because he is afraid of losing what little pussy he is getting now. It is shocking how many times the husband was either a virgin, or had one other partner at most when they got into this relationship.
Now if the girl has some special attribute, like big natural titties, then you will see her being a booty call for some higher level guys. However, I don't really see them as truly polyamorous. They are just doing the polyamory thing because they can't score the guy they want. If that higher level guy wanted to LTR them and told them to cut the polyamory shit out, they would stop it in a heartbeat.
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joehoya said:
My guess is that all of the cases of polyamory are basically the chick has one committed beta-- who puts up with it and is committed, and a guy one or two notches higher who won't commit. The chick is scared to drop the dork because she's afraid she can't secure the higher status guy (which is correct). The prevalence of polyamory now says way more about the quality of guys than it does girls.
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Roosh said:
I don't know why you would let these bitches have the power to transform your mindset and ruin your night or your trip. Who gives a shit about them? If I were you I would forget about trying to slay pussy when you come back and just go out with old buddies and get your manly drink on. When you're at the bars, if you interact with girls, so be it, but don't make it your mission to pound puss. Don't avoid talking to them either. Just take a break from your noble mission and go out without giving a fuck about the end results of the night.
Roosh said:
You're right about the black dudes with fat chics. I see a trend where a lot of black guys end up with fat white chics. Were you talking about this trend in America or Europe? I see them especially whenever I go out or happen to pass through the mall. Heck, I saw this type of couple today.
Also, I don't know if it's just me, but whenever there's a couple where one person is fat and the other person is thin, it's almost always the guy that's thin and the woman that's fat. :huh: It seems to be more common to see a fat chic-thin man couple rather than a thin chic-fat man couple.
Perhaps the obesity rate is lower for men.
blurb said:
I did a post on this earlier. According to the CDC, women are more than twice as fat as men, in the 20-30 category. Yes, all those stats you read about equal obesity rates between men and women is bullshit, because BMI is grossly inappropriate for comparing men and women.
I arrived at this conclusion by taking the median waist circumference and finding how far it was from the gender ideal. Men are <4" away from an ideal 32" waist, while women are 8+" away from an ideal waist of 25". Also, women deposit less fat around their waist than men do, as compared to say the hips and upper arms, so choosing waist as a measurement biases it in favor of women.
So for every fat man, there's easily 2-3 fat women waddling around, at least in the 20-29 age group.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf
joehoya said:
A 9 who acts like a cunt is still a 9. One does not factor personality into the number you give them. Ever heard the saying "Any man who would date a bitchy 8 over a pleasant 7 is an idiot?" something like that. The 1-10 scale is for women and their looks alone.
P Dog said:
Then a 1-10 scale should be used to measure a man's looks alone. You can't have it both ways. Well actually you can, I just disagree with you. A man with a 5 in looks that acts alpha is still a man with a 5 in looks. Just like a woman with an 8 in looks that acts like a bitch is still an 8. A PERFECT example of this is the saying you quoted, men do take into account things in addition to looks.
So in the end, either the scale is for physical attributes alone for BOTH men and women, or it includes other attributes (personality/game) for BOTH men and women.
The method you are describing, comparing men solely on their level of Alpha/Beta/Omeganess obscures the fact that women DO care about looks. Looks DO matter. They aren't the only thing that matters, but they do matter. The shit guys do to suit up and look fly is no different than chicks who get dolled up with makeup and wear pushup bras. Guys that have success projecting there alphaness are no different than girls that can pull tons of guys because she is so open, friendly, and has a great personality.
Rating guys by looks is dumb. Why do you care about how other men look like? Making guys wonder if they're a "5 or a 6" is only going to make them insecure. Yeah looks do matter, but rating guys with numbers can easily make them think they are out of a girls "league" (such a thing does not exist) so they won't approach them.
You don't understand my quote. I didn't misquote anything. Anybody can infer from that quote that personality doesn't change a girls "rating". A bitchy 8 is still an 8 and a nice 7 is still a 7, that's what it tells us. Please pay attention.
Double standards exist everywhere dude. Girls get shamed for sleeping around but guys get praised and get more pussy because of it.
"Guys that have success projecting there alphaness are no different than girls that can pull tons of guys because she is so open, friendly, and has a great personality."
Hahahah. No. That's deluded. There are tons of sweet girls out there who get little attention because they're plain, and tons of of bitchier hotties who get all the attention anyway. A girls personality does not change the strength of a man's boner. I'd still fuck Adriana Lima just as hard if she was a total cunt, and so would you.
You don't understand my quote. I didn't misquote anything. Anybody can infer from that quote that personality doesn't change a girls "rating". A bitchy 8 is still an 8 and a nice 7 is still a 7, that's what it tells us. Please pay attention.
Double standards exist everywhere dude. Girls get shamed for sleeping around but guys get praised and get more pussy because of it.
"Guys that have success projecting there alphaness are no different than girls that can pull tons of guys because she is so open, friendly, and has a great personality."
Hahahah. No. That's deluded. There are tons of sweet girls out there who get little attention because they're plain, and tons of of bitchier hotties who get all the attention anyway. A girls personality does not change the strength of a man's boner. I'd still fuck Adriana Lima just as hard if she was a total cunt, and so would you.
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