369eyedea said:
thoughtgypsy said:
I've been thinking about what exactly 'corrupts' a woman, and how, if possible, to stop the process. I'm convinced that practically every woman is corruptible, that it is inherent in their nature to want to ride the carousel given the right opportunities. The question is how to minimize those chances. Assuming you're starting with a woman who hasn't already been corrupted, these would be my guesses:
- Live outside a major metro area: This reduces her options. Women go for the top 10% regardless of where they are, and a larger population means that it's harder to stand out. In a rural area it's very easy to be the best dressed/charismatic/whatever. Divorce rate is much lower in rural areas.
- Do not allow her to work away from home: Reduces the chances of her spending 8 hours a day surrounded by and bonding with other men.
- Limit her friendships with western women: Western women are a corrupting influence. If your woman is well trained, other women will try to drag her down to the lowest common denominator. Women have a herd mentality and will try to fit into the larger group.
- Encourage friendships exclusively with other family members: If her only social group is your family, there will be major repercussions if she decided to blow up the relationship. She would be isolated from the only group of friends she knows. I think this was a major part of keeping my aunt honest.
- Limit her exposure to TV and pop culture: I think this is something she has to already be inclined to. Might have to look for someone who already doesn't watch or own a TV, and prefers to read. Sitting in front of a TV for hours on end, whose programming sets the approved social expectations for her will change her attitudes.
- Keep her busy: The devil makes use of idle hands. If she's bored, she's going to start looking to other avenues for entertainment. Get her cooking, cleaning, doing work for you. If you run an online business, perhaps you could show her some basics to start her own.
- If you have a daughter, don't send them to college: Pretty much an environment that is the polar opposite of everything above I've tried to lay out.
I'm sure there's others I missed.
Hey mate, i agree with your post, and that theoretically this would work to keep your traditional woman less westernized, but i don't see how realistic this would be without locking her in the basement (in a sense). I mean bringing some person into a country, unless you blindfold them, they are eventually going to see the culture. Unless you keep them in some community away from the western culture you don't want her to be affected by.
What i would find to work better, when i had a girlfriend from Russia, who was living in my 'westernized' country, New Zealand, was to make it clear to her that I really despised the tenants of the culture, and making her also convinced that it was a sick society, the american culture, feminism and all the rest of it.
By making it clear to her that that was what I expected, and manipulating her opinion of the place, still, 3 years after living here, even though we aren't together still, she didn't change her opinion.
I wasn't and still am not in some situation where i'd want such a super long term relationship where i really cared about this stuff too much, but i feel like keeping her in the kind of isolation you described wouldn't be a recipe for a happy person.
But I'm open to your counter-argument.
I've seen the semi-isolation deal work really well with a SEA woman in the US. A few key things that I think made a huge difference (early 30s couple at the time with two kids):
1. The guy was the primary provider. - Established Financial leverage
2. The guy spoke her language fluently. She spoke broken English. - Established communication leverage.
3. The woman video chatted with family back in SEA frequently. Online communication was mostly limited to family chatting.
4. They had two kids last I knew. Once one was about 3-4 (when the burden would lighten up a bit), next kid followed. Kept her busy
5. She understood her role to cook well, clean well, and sexually take care of her man (stay in shape, look good, etc). She even was fine with the guy fucking while out of town on business as long as he wore a rubber.
The guy was like a 1 in looks but the wife had a 7 body and 5 face (and thats after two kids). For this guy in the US, he was punching WAY above the average on the looks contrast alone and was in another dimension when accounting for everything else.
6. I think this is a big point in particular: the ultimate end game for them was to go back to the original SEA country together once the career was over in their 40s. Basically, have and raise kids in the safe, comfortable USA with 1st rate healthcare while making bank and when kids are older, (not 18 but teenagers), bounce back to the SEA country and geo-arbitrage the USD bankroll to live like royalty.
I think the last point is key because it prevents the woman from getting too settle into the idea of western life as a forever thing (and therefore, less motivated to make friends, learn the language well, etc) and gives her something to look forward to down the line: being upper-class/living the good life in her homeland and surrounded by her family again. Also, it makes it harder for her to monkey branch off in the US because while most men will fuck her, they sure as hell will not move with her to her homeland either due to lack of desire or feasibility. Finally, the guy with the family in tow moved every few years so the woman never got a chance to establish very deep social circle; which never went further than the local ethnic SEA church group... albeit westernized... which I think might have been a fault on his part but I digress. A deep social circle is hard to walk away from so while not intentional by design I think, the frequent moving kept her from getting overly attached to the US as well and contributed to keeping the the dream of going back to SEA alive.
When she talks with family back home frequently, it gives everyone a goal to work towards: the re-unification of the greater family unit. If she fucks that up, her family back home will surely know about it. So, those Skype chats back home with family can act as distance social pressure in a way.
Of course, plenty can go wrong. She can get invested in western culture and not want to leave. You could change your mind about going back to her homeland for whatever reason. She could just divorce rape you in the Anglosphere and take off with the kids or leave you with them to take care of alone.
Anyhow... the guy I outlined above is one of the only examples of a happy marriage I've ever seen in the US where it seemed like everyone was content with their role and position. At the very least, the aforementioned could maybe serve as a blue print for guys who want to bring a foreign chick to the US/anglopshere successfully in some form or fashion. I still think moving to the country of interest is WAY better than this layout but for guys who might have their hands tied career wise until their 40s or later but want to start up families in there 20s/30s, the blueprint I laid out could possibly work.
