Anger

Sinabelus

Sparrow
We obviously do disagree, because you keep rationalizing, how useful video games are and use ad hominem arguments. I did not have a particularly bad experience with video games, just an absolute average one. They are a huge waste of time, they lead you away from God and what is important, are addictive and lead you to sin, as stated above. When a grown man has free time, he should be reading, learning and spending time with his family. It is ridiculous stating that video games teach you that much. They just do not. Rather they are highly repetitive. My examples were obviously hyperbolical in nature and meant to be somewhat funny. Went right over your head. By the way, saying video games per se are not the problem, is like saying pornography per se is not the problem, but our urges. And that last paragraph is not only an ad hominem, but a literal straw man.
Bottom point is that I think you are rationalizing your gaming way too much. But I do not want to get too argumentative here anyway, as that is against the rules.
Come on now with your ad hominem, that wasn't even an attack, and you're not exempt from it either mr "you are rationalizing your gaming way too much". My point was that as with books, painting and literally any other form of art video games are neutral. What I was saying is that playing them in a way that leads you to sin is a problem, as much as it would be reading degenerate books and appreciating lewd paintings. Thus I think that experiences with video games, as it would with other artistic mediums, teach you more about your own predisposition than about their actual nature. Is the problem of someone who reads lewd books the fact that books exist, or that he is seeking those kind of books? Your pornography argument is a fallacy, pornography is a degenerate artistic genre, that's why you don't have one type of pornography, but rather erotic books, lewd pictures, and proper pornographic videos. Seeking pornography fits perfectly in the scenario of seeking lewd books I mentioned above. This is why I say that no artistic medium but should be banned, but rather than specific genres or themes should be banned : pornography, erotic, overly romantic books, gambling games, shooter games akin to Call of Duty, etc.

I don't know your age, but I guess that if you're older than me then you have indeed more important things to do. Right now I'm just about to enter the workplace, and I pray God that in the future playing video games will be the last thing on my mind. For now I have no family of my own, live in a city studio due to my studies, etc so obviously I have more free time to responsibly enjoy video games.

In any case, I don't think video games teach you "that much". Actually some games can even teach you technical skills (flight simulator, etc). But for most of them, the good ones at least, they are stories. They don't teach you things, but they hopefully expand your sensibility and perception, same as a good written story would. Granted less and less games are of the necessary quality.
 
I thought I had my anger in check, but then I became a stepfather! Teenage girls are so adept at hitting my buttons! Lol But over the many months I have learned to simply let go at times and not let things get to me. I wish that I had never raised my voice to them (I have a number of times), but it has been a learning experience for all of us. I need to pray more for love, patience and wisdom.
 
Many men, including me, have a passion for exploring the world and things, simply to discover something new beyond ordinary life.
Something dangerous, high adrenaline, something to conquer.

And pc games can satisfy (relatively safe) that desire.
But problem is, they cost a lot of time (and we have limited time here) and a second much bigger problem is, they represent a fake world.
No matter how advanced they are, yet, they are fake. Digital imitation.
Created by some geek. You are wasting time and money for a world that doesn't exist.

But God created a world, which is real. Only humans (and satan) are creating the counterfeit world. Satan is a great imitator.
People like cheap fake things, because getting it doesn't require so much effort like real things. But fake things are always inferior. Junk.
And many people are living in a junkyard all their life. And they wonder why their life sucks.

Don't waste your precious time on junk. Go to the real forest instead of digital. You will feel the real wind, cold, hot, smell, make a real fire, watch real stars in the night sky.

Same with the women. Ordinary real woman, even overweight and no ideal size and shape, (by the way who determined how women should look?) but honestly imperfect, and true with you and herself is much better than a fake supermodel, with a fake body and fake emotions.

God created the world, humans, and animals in a state how they are naturally, and their original state is the best. You won't outsmart God with fake paintings.
 

Max Roscoe

Pelican
Orthodox
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I would suggest talking to a priest. Can you imagine your priest being angry? They have certainly learned to push that out of their minds.

I'm thankful that anger is not one of my vices. It's actually almost impossible to make me angry. I think it stemmed from CONTROL. From really disliking how someone ELSE had the power over ME to make me angry, and I gradually eliminated it. Why should some stranger I don't even know, have the right to raise my blood pressure? Deny them that right. As cheesy as it may sound, the phrase "Let Go and Let God" was one that helped me. Rationalize your anger. What is the point of it? Does it accomplish anything at all? Then let it go, and leave it to God.

I do still get angry in general ways, about things like transexuality or critical race theory, the stuff that targets not only me but my entire race or all of humanity, and attempts to eradicate us. Or how we don't have normal men and women any more to befriend, and marry, respectively, thanks to Judeo Christian influence. But on a person to person level it's almost impossible to make me angry.
 

Vigilant

Kingfisher
Woman
Indeed the impact of video games has been mostly positive on my life so far. It gave me skills, in that I don't do esports but I am a programmer and though I was interested in CS before gaming very young, I actually began learning it by making minecraft mods, which to me was a major creative outlet at the time. Minecraft is an especially important game of my childhood, as it fostered my creativity in countless ways.
Another important game is Skyrim, and I recently watch a video of someone who analyses movies, games and in general stories and their philosophical parts. There is a concept, which I think was coined by C. G. Jung, about two types of spaces : the sacred and the profane. The profane is your everyday space, whereas the sacred is special : churches are sacred spaces for christian societies, but sacred spaces can for individuals as well, like your childhood garden, etc. All this to say that in the video, the author was expanding the thesis that for many people, Skyrim being a world imbued at its core with meaning made it a sacred space. I must say this is true for me ; I feel at ease playing Skyrim, and especially listening to the OST makes me long for it as it would for a beloved place of my childhood. I think games like Skyrim grew my hunger for meaning, which ultimately brought to me the ultimate meaning of Christ's sacrifice.
There are more games obviously but those two are pretty major. Also, I was blessed with having hard limits to my playtime which prevented it from becoming excessive. There's also my personality I guess, which meant I didn't really want to play "dumb" games.

I don't know much about blue light technology, would you mind expanding on it? I know about the effects on melatonin and sleep quality, but about addiction this would be news. I think addiction comes from many factors, which depend on the person. I know my flatmate who is an old friend of mine struggles with the sheer visual stimulation they offer, but he's someone very in tune with his material senses so it makes sense. For myself, I sometimes struggle with two types of games : strategy games and RPG / story games. The first is because of the intellectual stimulation and sense of accomplishment, the second because of the relief and inherent meaning in those games.
Strategy games are very good too for building skills and overall useful thinking processes, but indeed one has to remind oneself that the accomplishments are virtual.
The second kind is closer to what I said earlier with irrealis (is it actually a valid word? I think I borrowed it from linguistics and the irrealis tense lol) worlds. Basically in games like Skyrim, The Witcher 3 or others you're offered an espace from this absurd world, and usually you are offered a meaningful world, where your actions are useful and you have "quests" which are basically tangible guidelines for achieving your goals, but they don't exist in the real world, sadly. These games are useful for the sheer experience that they provide, which makes one (or should make one) ponder about the nature of our world by comparison. When I was young I wondered what was so great about Skyrim's world, what made me feel so serene playing it. Now I know it was meaning, and thus I always strive to achieve meaning in my life, above earthly pleasure and other things. As with all games, however, one ought not to linger too much in those worlds lest they drown in them.
On the subject of Skyrim, I can link you the video I was speaking about earlier : Almost all of the videos on this channel are masterpieces, save for two or three which are a bit too political in nature, and given he is neither christian nor very well-informed on the lies of the current world, the advice is usually misguided. This is the case for the last video IIRC.
Interesting.
I'll try to find where I got the addiction connection from.
In the mean time:

Dr. Jack Kruse - Blue light is the number one health issue ...

Blue light is the number one health issue facing all modern humans. It is so obvious that even a heart physician is getting the message out. He has some information incorrect about light here but he is directionally accurate. Chronic man-made blue light dehydrates cells because artificial blue light decreases the amount of water and CO2 a ...




Blue light inventor:
 

Vigilant

Kingfisher
Woman
Come on now with your ad hominem, that wasn't even an attack, and you're not exempt from it either mr "you are rationalizing your gaming way too much". My point was that as with books, painting and literally any other form of art video games are neutral. What I was saying is that playing them in a way that leads you to sin is a problem, as much as it would be reading degenerate books and appreciating lewd paintings. Thus I think that experiences with video games, as it would with other artistic mediums, teach you more about your own predisposition than about their actual nature. Is the problem of someone who reads lewd books the fact that books exist, or that he is seeking those kind of books? Your pornography argument is a fallacy, pornography is a degenerate artistic genre, that's why you don't have one type of pornography, but rather erotic books, lewd pictures, and proper pornographic videos. Seeking pornography fits perfectly in the scenario of seeking lewd books I mentioned above. This is why I say that no artistic medium but should be banned, but rather than specific genres or themes should be banned : pornography, erotic, overly romantic books, gambling games, shooter games akin to Call of Duty, etc.

I don't know your age, but I guess that if you're older than me then you have indeed more important things to do. Right now I'm just about to enter the workplace, and I pray God that in the future playing video games will be the last thing on my mind. For now I have no family of my own, live in a city studio due to my studies, etc so obviously I have more free time to responsibly enjoy video games.

In any case, I don't think video games teach you "that much". Actually some games can even teach you technical skills (flight simulator, etc). But for most of them, the good ones at least, they are stories. They don't teach you things, but they hopefully expand your sensibility and perception, same as a good written story would. Granted less and less games are of the necessary quality.
Yes, and I think we all need a lot more arguing in our age. Arguing is just a medium for truth and just because people are prone to quarelling doesn't mean we get rid of arguing.
 
Yes, and I think we all need a lot more arguing in our age. Arguing is just a medium for truth and just because people are prone to quarelling doesn't mean we get rid of arguing.

Arguing isn't a necessarily medium for truth. Unless its a formal debate. Its otherwise its deflecting responsibility. Reversing victimhood, projecting blame onto others and so on.

Likewise particular people are good at wearing down others through the verbal dribble(Proverbs 27:15) that has nothing to do with truth.

Its not like a debate in the Court of Law where there is evidence available. Like fingerprints, recordings, autopsies and so forth. where witnesses get cross-examined and get forced to fess up because their account doesn't line up with evidence gathered by sound investigative methods, hence proving that they are lying.

Like the actions that did that day. What time it was. what they saw, their positioning. Little details that done line up with evidence that comes with the territory of lying.
 
Come on now with your ad hominem, that wasn't even an attack, and you're not exempt from it either mr "you are rationalizing your gaming way too much". My point was that as with books, painting and literally any other form of art video games are neutral. What I was saying is that playing them in a way that leads you to sin is a problem, as much as it would be reading degenerate books and appreciating lewd paintings. Thus I think that experiences with video games, as it would with other artistic mediums, teach you more about your own predisposition than about their actual nature. Is the problem of someone who reads lewd books the fact that books exist, or that he is seeking those kind of books? Your pornography argument is a fallacy, pornography is a degenerate artistic genre, that's why you don't have one type of pornography, but rather erotic books, lewd pictures, and proper pornographic videos. Seeking pornography fits perfectly in the scenario of seeking lewd books I mentioned above. This is why I say that no artistic medium but should be banned, but rather than specific genres or themes should be banned : pornography, erotic, overly romantic books, gambling games, shooter games akin to Call of Duty, etc.

I don't know your age, but I guess that if you're older than me then you have indeed more important things to do. Right now I'm just about to enter the workplace, and I pray God that in the future playing video games will be the last thing on my mind. For now I have no family of my own, live in a city studio due to my studies, etc so obviously I have more free time to responsibly enjoy video games.

In any case, I don't think video games teach you "that much". Actually some games can even teach you technical skills (flight simulator, etc). But for most of them, the good ones at least, they are stories. They don't teach you things, but they hopefully expand your sensibility and perception, same as a good written story would. Granted less and less games are of the necessary quality.

JRPGs and western CRPGs in particular are interactive stories with gameplay in it. I thoroughly enjoy the profound stories they weave. I do play them for this reason.

Generally video games are meant to be for things one cannot do in real life. If its a Sports Simulator for example. I'd rather buy a real soccer ball and play said game in real life.
 

Vigilant

Kingfisher
Woman
Arguing isn't a necessarily medium for truth. Unless its a formal debate. Its otherwise its deflecting responsibility. Reversing victimhood, projecting blame onto others and so on.

Likewise particular people are good at wearing down others through the verbal dribble(Proverbs 27:15) that has nothing to do with truth.

Its not like a debate in the Court of Law where there is evidence available. Like fingerprints, recordings, autopsies and so forth. where witnesses get cross-examined and get forced to fess up because their account doesn't line up with evidence gathered by sound investigative methods, hence proving that they are lying.

Like the actions that did that day. What time it was. what they saw, their positioning. Little details that done line up with evidence that comes with the territory of lying.
The Scriptures call us to sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence (1 Pet. 3:15).

And with the world set in rebellion against God, man universally suppresses the truth in unrighteousness (Rom. 1:18).

So not only do we have an obligation to engage in apologetics but we also have a difficult obligation in that Scripture forewarns that men will resist us from the very depths of their being.

However, I believe it prudent as a woman to leave arguing to the men. I enjoy learning from the debates of godly men.
 

DelMarMisty

Robin
Woman
Orthodox
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I would suggest talking to a priest. Can you imagine your priest being angry? They have certainly learned to push that out of their minds.

I'm thankful that anger is not one of my vices. It's actually almost impossible to make me angry. I think it stemmed from CONTROL. From really disliking how someone ELSE had the power over ME to make me angry, and I gradually eliminated it. Why should some stranger I don't even know, have the right to raise my blood pressure? Deny them that right. As cheesy as it may sound, the phrase "Let Go and Let God" was one that helped me. Rationalize your anger. What is the point of it? Does it accomplish anything at all? Then let it go, and leave it to God.

I do still get angry in general ways, about things like transexuality or critical race theory, the stuff that targets not only me but my entire race or all of humanity, and attempts to eradicate us. Or how we don't have normal men and women any more to befriend, and marry, respectively, thanks to Judeo Christian influence. But on a person to person level it's almost impossible to make me angry.
I hope I can one day be like this too. Sounds nice not to get pissed off at petty things, looks like I need to control myself more. A lot of it too, is bottling things up. If someone offends me, I don't react and then let it fester inside. I did look up anger forums before I posted. They didn't come up, wonder whether I did it wrong. To be honest, the responses here are much better since the ones you shared are old threads including secular information.
 
The Scriptures call us to sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence (1 Pet. 3:15).

And with the world set in rebellion against God, man universally suppresses the truth in unrighteousness (Rom. 1:18).

So not only do we have an obligation to engage in apologetics but we also have a difficult obligation in that Scripture forewarns that men will resist us from the very depths of their being.

However, I believe it prudent as a woman to leave arguing to the men. I enjoy learning from the debates of godly men.

Well yes. So as part of apologetics. Not only are we to be well versed in logic and proper critical thinking. But also to present evidence similarly to the court of law. Also being good at metaphysics helps.

The apologetics channels I follow take that approach:
 
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Come on now with your ad hominem, that wasn't even an attack, and you're not exempt from it either mr "you are rationalizing your gaming way too much". My point was that as with books, painting and literally any other form of art video games are neutral. What I was saying is that playing them in a way that leads you to sin is a problem, as much as it would be reading degenerate books and appreciating lewd paintings. Thus I think that experiences with video games, as it would with other artistic mediums, teach you more about your own predisposition than about their actual nature. Is the problem of someone who reads lewd books the fact that books exist, or that he is seeking those kind of books? Your pornography argument is a fallacy, pornography is a degenerate artistic genre, that's why you don't have one type of pornography, but rather erotic books, lewd pictures, and proper pornographic videos. Seeking pornography fits perfectly in the scenario of seeking lewd books I mentioned above. This is why I say that no artistic medium but should be banned, but rather than specific genres or themes should be banned : pornography, erotic, overly romantic books, gambling games, shooter games akin to Call of Duty, etc.
About shooters. Its too often trivializes the reality of violence. When in reality its ugly and its serious business. Which I think in contrast to Call of Duty the original rainbow six trilogy shows:

In fact the great vulnerability of the protagonist just like in real life changed the whole calculus. From what would be fun hollywood action to stress and fear.

Such things in that sense benefit from that dose of realism.
 

DanielaEverheart

Sparrow
Woman
I thought I had my anger in check, but then I became a stepfather! Teenage girls are so adept at hitting my buttons! Lol But over the many months I have learned to simply let go at times and not let things get to me. I wish that I had never raised my voice to them (I have a number of times), but it has been a learning experience for all of us. I need to pray more for love, patience and wisdom.
My stepfather -while flawed like many of us- wasn't a bad stepfather, and now that he requires dyalisis, my sister and I take him to his sessions. We take care despite him having 3 adult children of his own. We thankfully have a maid that also attends him so the burden gets diluted. I truly hope your patience will breed gratitude and come back in kidness to you in later years :blush:
 

DanielaEverheart

Sparrow
Woman
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I would suggest talking to a priest. Can you imagine your priest being angry? They have certainly learned to push that out of their minds.
But can this be considered a "dupe" thread? This is the other section of the forum we can interact in, apart from "Roosh article". Perhaps sharing useful info found in other parts of the forum could do...
 

Maddox

Sparrow
...Mine stems from the fact that I've felt like I was dealt a bad break in life, and have never had it easy. I sit around thinking about how much further along I'd be now if I were luckier and had had a more stable upbringing. It's toxic, but at least I know where the source of the problem is, and it's been improving.

This is how I feel. Bad parenting, the loss of my social circle, and a lot of horrible situations involving horrible people put me in an awful spot in life.

When I was younger, I had hope that the future would be better for me. So I didn't have anger at that time, I had frustration that was soothed by hope.

Now that I'm middle age, I am looking back on life much more than I am looking forward. The hope is practically gone and the frustration has turned to outright anger towards everyone that has done me wrong in life.

And of course, the Corona crisis has only made things worse.

Praying and reading the Bible helps a bit but it will never make this pain go away.
 

stugatz

Pelican
This is how I feel. Bad parenting, the loss of my social circle, and a lot of horrible situations involving horrible people put me in an awful spot in life.

When I was younger, I had hope that the future would be better for me. So I didn't have anger at that time, I had frustration that was soothed by hope.

Now that I'm middle age, I am looking back on life much more than I am looking forward. The hope is practically gone and the frustration has turned to outright anger towards everyone that has done me wrong in life.

And of course, the Corona crisis has only made things worse.

Praying and reading the Bible helps a bit but it will never make this pain go away.
I am almost the reverse. In my twenties I was just angry. Struggled to make friends as a result, didn't have a lot of interests outside of dating & partying (my grades in college were decent at best, mediocre to bad at worst), and was just generally an unpleasant and self-absorbed person that wasn't willing to wait and work for the things that I wanted.

If anything, I know that the reason it took me a while to inch forward was because of my terrible attitude. I have almost misguided hope these days, probably because my change in outlook has made me a happier person. Funny thing - I'm not all that happy of a person. So I was in a really bad spot some time ago and happy to be past it.

Church, likeminded people and God have all been a major help (although I really need to work on my prayer - I am not the most frequent). I think getting out of that self-destructive hedonist loop was key, though. Having almost no hobbies and constructive pasttimes was a major blow to my well-being.
 

Vigilant

Kingfisher
Woman
This is how I feel. Bad parenting, the loss of my social circle, and a lot of horrible situations involving horrible people put me in an awful spot in life.

When I was younger, I had hope that the future would be better for me. So I didn't have anger at that time, I had frustration that was soothed by hope.

Now that I'm middle age, I am looking back on life much more than I am looking forward. The hope is practically gone and the frustration has turned to outright anger towards everyone that has done me wrong in life.

And of course, the Corona crisis has only made things worse.

Praying and reading the Bible helps a bit but it will never make this pain go away.
It should never make this pain go away for either self destructive reasons or good reasons.

We 'die' because of a lack of knowledge, whether we're victims or not.
We interfere with our own sanctification, being that we are our own worst enemy.
If we don't know who, what and how to obey, we limit blessings at best, invite curses at worst.

Good reasons for pain are often dualistic. Good as a sign to get our attention and for sanctification.

Others cause us pain, usually from sin, and we in turn cause our own pain by nurturing it, and cause pain sinning against others.

Take heart that accepting affliction as part of everyday life is a blessing in disguise and you will mature in growing in hope more and more.

Embrace the process; make peace with it because pain is here to stay.
How we perceive it and using it to lighten others' pain will progressively set you free to make joy contagious.
 

Mrs.DanielH

Robin
Woman
Orthodox
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This isn't a duplicate. This thread is the first of the topic in the Ladies Forum.
 

DanielaEverheart

Sparrow
Woman
This is how I feel. Bad parenting, the loss of my social circle, and a lot of horrible situations involving horrible people put me in an awful spot in life.

When I was younger, I had hope that the future would be better for me. So I didn't have anger at that time, I had frustration that was soothed by hope.

Now that I'm middle age, I am looking back on life much more than I am looking forward. The hope is practically gone and the frustration has turned to outright anger towards everyone that has done me wrong in life.

And of course, the Corona crisis has only made things worse.

Praying and reading the Bible helps a bit but it will never make this pain go away.
I feel sorry about that, I do believe though breakthrough is around the corner and that God gives everyone a purpose.
 
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