Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning

Rigsby

Pelican
Gold Member
debeguiled said:
nomadbrah said:
DamienCasanova said:
nomadbrah said:
If it was muslims or someone else who burned it down.

It doesn't matter, the real loss is that it is impossible to rebuild.

No architect exists who wants or knows how to build the beautiful or the sublime, they only know marxist brutalism.

No stone masons, glass workers, sculptors exist, they've all been replaced with chinese steel and glass.

No spiritual rulers who understand the need for the divine and everlasting.

No artists to paint the portrait and paintings, they only paint ugly degenerate images.

Tell me about the superiority of modernity, once the rebuilding efforts fail.

7r54.jpg


:facepalm:

Diverse architecture?

A mosque? A mud castle?

Nothing like a little Brutalist architecture to bring you closer to your maker.

Like this church in Austria:

https://www.archdaily.com/886994/the-bizarre-brutalist-church-that-is-more-art-than-architecture

07.jpg


19.jpg


Those kinky Oesterreichers! Always trying to out do the Germans.

Austrians are quaint people. They are like the Central European version of the Dutch. Don't know what they want. All inclusive. Intimidated by their neighbours. Want to set themselves apart, while they don't have such a strong identity.

They are weirdos. Just like the Dutch.

But they take great pride in their architecture.

But it's not possible to build structures like this any more:

belvedere.jpg


So they resort to this kind of Brutalism.

I like Brutalism. But just like the commies, it was never done quite right!

Ironically (or not), the school of Brutalism is French in its inception. The term being 'coined' by the British to describe concrete structures. It has nothing to do with being 'brutal'.

https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Brutalism

The term ‘brutalism’ was coined by the British architects Alison and Peter Smithson, and popularised by the architectural historian Reyner Banham in 1954. It derives from ‘Béton brut’ (raw concrete) and was first associated in architecture with Le Corbusier, who designed the Cite Radieuse in Marseilles in the late-1940s.

I lived among some of the most beautiful Brutalist architecture in my time in London. I have a deep love for it. But it never was done right. Not as good as it could have been, anyway.

Having said that, it gave rise to some real monstrosities. See South American Brutalism.

https://www.archdaily.com/880919/10-iconic-brutalist-buildings-in-latin-america

But then again, whilst being monstrosities, they were some of the best works ever done. The two go hand in hand. It's why I like it.

I love cold hard concrete spaces. To be filled by light. And by great furniture. Water. Sound. The human imagination. Protected by those big concrete walls. No sound penetrates. No light. Only what you want to let through. Protected from the elements. No rain or water, no wind, no storm. Cavemen would have killed to have lived in a moulded concrete cave like this, for that is all they are. And I like that. But I'm a savage. It's not for everyone. I just see it as a passing point until we can build real homes, real structures to live in.

But that Austrian stuff is just trying to be too clever. Trying too hard. As Austrians are wont to do. They suffer from the same autism the Germans do, but at the same time want to buy in to the whole Anglo thing (UK/US) and to be part of that whilst being above it as well.

They are confused. They want to be the vessel, whilst being what is inside the vessel at the same time.

It makes for a heady mixture.

Star Wars?

star-wars-may-the-4th-be-with-you-blog-header.jpg


[img=750x550]https://www.pocobuildingsupplies.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/star-wars-themed-room-2.jpg[/img]


In the future, the best architects will come from Austria.
 

Rigsby

Pelican
Gold Member
AneroidOcean said:
Rigsby said:
<SNIP>
You think that is a woman?

An Asian woman?

Rigsby there was two pictures. You should get your browser settings sorted out. See below:


Ah ok, my bad. Sorry for the disruption.

I did mention this before. I just don't like using Chrome.

I really didn't see that other picture, and no one else referenced it.

Maybe others have the same problem too?


Thanks anyway. I thought I was going mad.

I'm just an idiot.
 

Lime

Kingfisher
Agnostic
Dalaran1991 said:
I go here every Saturday with my dates... It's about the most Parisian experience you can get.

You guys can forget about the French and particularly Parisians doing anything other than candle and prayer. 70 people killed last year, they didnt do anything. Thousands of their countrymen yellow vests fight for their rights, but they don't do anything either. Christianity in Ile de France is mostly a joke, no people really go to mass anymore and and Paris is Sodom/Gomorrah. As always, the French in the countryside, though they might be devout catholics they are too cuckservative to do anything, as seen with the GJ movement. Hate to be "that guy" but I said several times during the French terrorist attacks and then during the opening phase of the GJ movements that nothing would change. Fuck all changed. You could burn their houses to the ground and evict them, all they will do is more peaceful protesting.

Social media reactions have been entertaining. Some non-French are posting about "white people whining about their icons", leftists and their usual moralizing "ya all weeping for this piece of stone while Kenyan children dying", and the typical sarcastic French are already making memes about how the restored monument will be named "Notre Dame Emirates - brought to you by Qatar". As with most french jokes, this one contains too much truth to be funny.

I have mixed reactions from the fact that 2 of the richest french are donating to the restoration fund. I'll only hope this comes from the "goodness of their hearts" and not the must-not-miss opportunity to become the cathedral's finest patrons and subsequently privatizing the place.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/notre-...-more-than-500-million-to-rebuild-notre-dame/


Please explain Dalaran, do you mean many slutty girls? Or is in other ways Sodom & Gomorrah?

Maybe the gifts by billionaires, can function as an argument against the rich tax.
 

Deusleveult

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
Going strong said:
Deusleveult said:
As a practicing catholic and native french person, I was really sad to see the images of Notre-Dame de Paris burning.
Sad is not even the right word, it's a mix of sadness, feeling of loss and despair.

Knowing what really happened and who did it is not even important. The jews, the muslims, the free-masons? We all know who rules them and it's Satan.

Are you seriously saying that "the Jews and the Muslims" are "ruled by Satan", like, all of them indiscriminately? :s

One might say that about (most of) the free-masons, who reject God and faith, or even about most savage Animists, but, certainly not about other monotheist religions and their followers.

But the rest of your post about France was valuable and interesting.

Anyway, some news: a first "fire alert" was issued at 18h21, but deemed false (because of a failed "protocol of confirmation"), 22 minutes before the second fire alert, which did set the fire brigades in motion. So the (intentional, accidental?) fire started when Mass was still in process.

My statement can easily be misunderstood, like your reaction shows me.
Things are more nuanced than what I boldly said so let me explain.

Some people straight up worship satan, like higher rank free masons and zionists. And then, still in the category of satan worshippers, you have young and dumb people, like some heavy metal fans who don't know what they are doing but think it's cool to live in the dark and profanate cemeteries.

For lower rank free masons, jews, muslims and atheists, I think they are just clueless about who they really are following, and it is false idols and false gods.
Truth is even a lot of christians are following false idols like evangelical people. All these people might not worship satan, but satan has a strong grip on them.

I'm not saying I am better than the these people just because I go to a traditional catholic church and pray Jesus. No the difference is that I am conscious about who I want to follow (Jesus) and who I have to fight in this world (satan).
The only thing I am hoping for them is that they realize that the false idols and false gods that they are following don't give them any meaning and start searching for the truth.
 

ilostabet

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Not to derail the thread but 'renovations' and 'improvements' on Churches, from what I've seen, are used as excuses to either desecrate by addition, or evacuate and replace. You either turn them into places of Diversity worship, whatever shade it happens to be, or you turn them into museums - or both.

In the neighbourhood where I grew up, mass was held in a sort of annex built between apartment buildings, despite being very, very close to several old and beautiful churches and chapels - it could be said that you can't find a bigger concentration in Lisbon than down that hill. Yet all these old churches and chapels would open only on special days, such as Easter or Christmas. For the regular chumps that actually wanted to attend mass regularly? Go in this dark rectangular building, and share the back with some karate lessons or something. It wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad.

Eventually, people agitated to get a church built nearby. Worst mistake they made - they should have been happy to have a place to worship at all. The annex might have been small, badly lit and not very beautiful, but its simple nature did not contradict God or His natural order. They replaced it with this affront to everything holy:

5500792.jpg


I know stuff like this happens all across the West. And I have no doubt in my mind they will try to desecrate Notre Dame in whatever way they can - if they do it to any small church, how much hand rubbing and lip licking has been going on in globalist circles just imagining how they will deface that mighty and central symbol of Christendom.
 

Deusleveult

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
ilostabet said:
Not to derail the thread but 'renovations' and 'improvements' on Churches, from what I've seen, are used as excuses to either desecrate by addition, or evacuate and replace. You either turn them into places of Diversity worship, whatever shade it happens to be, or you turn them into museums - or both.

In the neighbourhood where I grew up, mass was held in a sort of annex built between apartment buildings, despite being very, very close to several old and beautiful churches and chapels - it could be said that you can't find a bigger concentration in Lisbon than down that hill. Yet all these old churches and chapels would open only on special days, such as Easter or Christmas. For the regular chumps that actually wanted to attend mass regularly? Go in this dark rectangular building, and share the back with some karate lessons or something. It wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad.

Eventually, people agitated to get a church built nearby. Worst mistake they made - they should have been happy to have a place to worship at all. The annex might have been small, badly lit and not very beautiful, but its simple nature did not contradict God or His natural order. They replaced it with this affront to everything holy:

5500792.jpg


I know stuff like this happens all across the West. And I have no doubt in my mind they will try to desecrate Notre Dame in whatever way they can - if they do it to any small church, how much hand rubbing and lip licking has been going on in globalist circles just imagining how they will deface that mighty and central symbol of Christendom.


I was actually thinking the same thing.

Hearing Macron say he wants to "rebuild it in the next five years" and "even more beautiful".
Seeing the post of France24 on Twitter stating that they want to rebuild it "in a way consistent with our modern diverse nation".
Seeing the huge donations of french billionaires and major french companies like Total and even Apple.

One thing that doesn't lie is the way they talk about the cathedral. They all talk about the disaster of losing such a building, the architecture and the history.
But notice that none of them talk about religion, christianity, catholicism and God. For Tim Cook of Apple Notre Dame is "a symbol of hope", typical left-wing, feel good and empty giberrish.

They want to desecrate it and it will be a new step for the one world religion that the globalists want.
I wouldn't be surprise that pope Francis will come at the end of the construction to bless it with prominent imams, rabbis and such.

Let's see if I am right.
 
Notre Dame belongs to the french and christians alone.

No one else.

To allow foreigners or other faiths to contribute is to steal and desecrate the french and that is exactly the goal.
 

rockoman

Woodpecker
Charles Hugh Smith:

https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapr19/Notre-Dame-identity4-19.html

Snippets:

"The Chinese famously view natural disasters and similar events as portents of political change, as disasters suggest the Emperor/ruling elite has lost the Mandate of Heaven. It is difficult not to see the disastrous fire in Notre Dame as just such a portent.

For the identity of France is under assault on a number of fronts. The left-leaning status quo has set up a false duality: one either worships multiculturalism and rejects a national identity as the sworn enemy of multiculturalism, or one is a rightist racist. Thus anyone who even refers to a national identity of France is quickly vilified and marginalized. "

......

"Globalized, hyper-financialized elitist Capitalism, so dependent on cheap immigrant labor for its servants, has left "deep France" behind, stripped of economic and political power, and relegated to dependency on the welfare state in rural regions (only the favored few and those with state-subsidized housing can afford to live in Paris). "

...
"The corporate media, a key defender of the self-serving elite, will reject any symbolism in the near-destruction of Notre Dame. But deep down, many sense what cannot be spoken openly: the elites in France have lost the Mandate of Heaven. "


"These are not matters solely of politics and finance; they are manifestations of the elite war on the identity of France, to transform it into a bland, globalized hierarchy in which capital and power benefit the few, a system enforced by state propaganda and public virtue-signaling. "
 

rockoman

Woodpecker
John Ward

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2019/04/17/french-letter-paris-brule-t-il/

Snippet:

"For those of sound mind, it is far too early to reach conclusions on how and why Notre Dame was so severely damaged on Monday evening. But not for the French sureté. At 3am Tuesday morning, they and the Paris prosecutor’s office said they would – get this – “carry out an investigation into involuntary destruction caused by fire”.

In other words, Brexit flextension rules would apply: we will investigate any and all evidence leading to the conclusion that this was an accident. Oh how the Establishment gives itself away in such pronouncements.

The fire service in turn was very quick to announce (just before 10 pm) that the blaze “could be potentially linked” to ongoing renovations. The slight flaw in this assertion was that – as the contractors unhelpfully confirmed – there wasn’t any work taking place at the time the blaze began: workmen had finished for the day.


Shortly after the fire began, French news airborne footage showed, very clearly, a man in a white hard-hat walking calmly along one of the balconies, and then disappearing through a door. Ever since, the authorities have made no comment at all about who he was, or why he seemed so relaxed with smoke and flames billowing all around him. He was not a firefighter.

During Tuesday, I tapped up various contacts…all of whom quite rightly avoided a firm view, but offered these observations:

•Much of the current restoration of Notre Dame has involved the exposure of damp oak in the structurally compromised building. Waterlogged oak is not exactly the best catalyst for the creation of an accidental fire – especially one that burnt so fiercely for the first four hours
•Dozens of witnesses were mystified by the time it took for the fire brigade to get to the scene
•There is a huge tank of grey water available on the site designed solely to be used in the event of conflagration. For some reason, it was not put into operation until too late"
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Rigsby said:
debeguiled said:
nomadbrah said:
DamienCasanova said:
nomadbrah said:
If it was muslims or someone else who burned it down.

It doesn't matter, the real loss is that it is impossible to rebuild.

No architect exists who wants or knows how to build the beautiful or the sublime, they only know marxist brutalism.

No stone masons, glass workers, sculptors exist, they've all been replaced with chinese steel and glass.

No spiritual rulers who understand the need for the divine and everlasting.

No artists to paint the portrait and paintings, they only paint ugly degenerate images.

Tell me about the superiority of modernity, once the rebuilding efforts fail.

7r54.jpg


:facepalm:

Diverse architecture?

A mosque? A mud castle?

Nothing like a little Brutalist architecture to bring you closer to your maker.

Like this church in Austria:

https://www.archdaily.com/886994/the-bizarre-brutalist-church-that-is-more-art-than-architecture

07.jpg


19.jpg


Those kinky Oesterreichers! Always trying to out do the Germans.

Austrians are quaint people. They are like the Central European version of the Dutch. Don't know what they want. All inclusive. Intimidated by their neighbours. Want to set themselves apart, while they don't have such a strong identity.

They are weirdos. Just like the Dutch.

But they take great pride in their architecture.

But it's not possible to build structures like this any more:

belvedere.jpg


So they resort to this kind of Brutalism.

I like Brutalism. But just like the commies, it was never done quite right!

Ironically (or not), the school of Brutalism is French in its inception. The term being 'coined' by the British to describe concrete structures. It has nothing to do with being 'brutal'.

https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Brutalism

The term ‘brutalism’ was coined by the British architects Alison and Peter Smithson, and popularised by the architectural historian Reyner Banham in 1954. It derives from ‘Béton brut’ (raw concrete) and was first associated in architecture with Le Corbusier, who designed the Cite Radieuse in Marseilles in the late-1940s.

I lived among some of the most beautiful Brutalist architecture in my time in London. I have a deep love for it. But it never was done right. Not as good as it could have been, anyway.

Having said that, it gave rise to some real monstrosities. See South American Brutalism.

https://www.archdaily.com/880919/10-iconic-brutalist-buildings-in-latin-america

But then again, whilst being monstrosities, they were some of the best works ever done. The two go hand in hand. It's why I like it.

I love cold hard concrete spaces. To be filled by light. And by great furniture. Water. Sound. The human imagination. Protected by those big concrete walls. No sound penetrates. No light. Only what you want to let through. Protected from the elements. No rain or water, no wind, no storm. Cavemen would have killed to have lived in a moulded concrete cave like this, for that is all they are. And I like that. But I'm a savage. It's not for everyone. I just see it as a passing point until we can build real homes, real structures to live in.

But that Austrian stuff is just trying to be too clever. Trying too hard. As Austrians are wont to do. They suffer from the same autism the Germans do, but at the same time want to buy in to the whole Anglo thing (UK/US) and to be part of that whilst being above it as well.

They are confused. They want to be the vessel, whilst being what is inside the vessel at the same time.

It makes for a heady mixture.

Star Wars?

star-wars-may-the-4th-be-with-you-blog-header.jpg


[img=750x550]https://www.pocobuildingsupplies.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/star-wars-themed-room-2.jpg[/img]


In the future, the best architects will come from Austria.

If brutalism can outdo the Catherine Palace in Russia and the Versailles Palace in France and the historic Notre Dame.

Then I will be a convert. But so far. Brutalist architecture has proven to be a near constant fail in terms of Aesthetics.

Unless its fails to be ugly and even looks sublime like the starry night sky. It will have its detractors.

The grey of its concrete has been one of the greatest contributors to its failure of aesthetics aside from lack of proper craftsmanship.
 

rockoman

Woodpecker
"Firefighters lost valuable time in reaching the blaze at Notre Dame after a computer glitch sent investigators to the wrong part of the cathedral, according to French reports.

An initial fire alarm sounded at 6.20pm local time but after failing to find a blaze, security services at the landmark dubbed it a false alarm, according to sources cited by Le Parisien.

At 6.43pm, almost 25 minutes later, a second alarm went off. Only when they returned to the upper area of the edifice did they call in firefighters, after coming across three-metre flames at the base of the spire.

According to Le Parisien, the computer glitch had caused the alarm to signal the wrong location. "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/17/notre-dame-fire-cathedral-blaze-cause-donation/ (Paywall)
 

Jetset

Ostrich
Rigsby said:
I love cold hard concrete spaces. To be filled by light. And by great furniture. Water. Sound. The human imagination. Protected by those big concrete walls. No sound penetrates. No light. Only what you want to let through. Protected from the elements. No rain or water, no wind, no storm. Cavemen would have killed to have lived in a moulded concrete cave like this, for that is all they are. And I like that. But I'm a savage. It's not for everyone. I just see it as a passing point until we can build real homes, real structures to live in.

infowarrior1 said:
The grey of its concrete has been one of the greatest contributors to its failure of aesthetics aside from lack of proper craftsmanship.

To me, the failure of the brutalist designs I've seen is that it feels so self-referential, circular. Attempts to compress and release the space fail because there's often nothing to really release the observer to: just more of itself.

If you want to see grey concrete done thoughtfully and warmly, visit the Arizona Biltmore someday, a resort designed by a student of Frank Lloyd Wright:

[img=480x319]https://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/...asic_content_item/WA_homepagexthl01.jpg[/img]

[img=640x336]https://www.arizonabiltmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/masthead-3-1920x1009.jpg[/img]

[img=560x294]https://www.arizonabiltmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/waldorf_biltmore_pool_1680x883.jpg[/img]

They had quite a bit of fun with how the light would interact with the property and it's strangely calming to walk around the grounds, and the "cave-like" feel really works for it. It pulls in enough of the landscape and of tradition that it's a bit like some old Pueblo man saw pictures of a Pompeii and decided to take his best shot at recreating it from memory.
 
I hear that it's just in that Macron has said that they will make an "international competition" among "international architects" to rebuild the Notre Dame.

Maybe you french can find a chinese or what about argentine jew.

This shit might just about push me to book a ticket to Paris and join the yellow vests.

It's an absolute humiliation of ethnic french and christians, how Macron is handling this.
 

MOVSM

Pelican
Gold Member
There are so many people I want to force-choke right now, starting with Macron.

This is the sadness of the aftermath. See the full extent of the damage:
https://gigarama.ru/notredame/?fbclid=IwAR1ZlcbHGg4bpIkCsbOjXcwUqN3UZJnZxlMHwv5YBIQRQTUlSo1ALzyAjuk




Brutalist architecture will NEVER be beautiful. It is specifically designed to oppress and suppress the human spirit. It is meant to destroy the traditional, culture-specific architecture, and culture itself. It is the tool of the globalists and their foot soldiers, the cultural marxists and nihilists. Brutalism is architectural version of abstract modern art--an aesthetic terrorism.

 

Jetset

Ostrich
nomadbrah said:
It's an absolute humiliation of ethnic french and christians, how Macron is handling this.

In some fairness, the architect of the fallen spire was an avowed anti-clerical secular republican and possibly an atheist, who celebrated the revolution prying art out of the hands of the Church. Man of his time.

Yet he was also one of the foremost experts on French Gothic design, and firmly believed he was fulfilling the vision of the medieval architects, helping them to complete what they could not with their own tools and materials.

There is no earthly reason this should be in the hands of foreign architects. Let every university in the provinces send their brightest student and make some young French architects famous. Macron's making a bold gambit to try to salvage his legacy with a moonshot to repair a national monument, and it's going to be a mess that only proves how out of touch he is with what the Yellow Vests are angry about.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Jetset said:
Rigsby said:
I love cold hard concrete spaces. To be filled by light. And by great furniture. Water. Sound. The human imagination. Protected by those big concrete walls. No sound penetrates. No light. Only what you want to let through. Protected from the elements. No rain or water, no wind, no storm. Cavemen would have killed to have lived in a moulded concrete cave like this, for that is all they are. And I like that. But I'm a savage. It's not for everyone. I just see it as a passing point until we can build real homes, real structures to live in.

infowarrior1 said:
The grey of its concrete has been one of the greatest contributors to its failure of aesthetics aside from lack of proper craftsmanship.

To me, the failure of the brutalist designs I've seen is that it feels so self-referential, circular. Attempts to compress and release the space fail because there's often nothing to really release the observer to: just more of itself.

If you want to see grey concrete done thoughtfully and warmly, visit the Arizona Biltmore someday, a resort designed by a student of Frank Lloyd Wright:

[img=480x319]https://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/...asic_content_item/WA_homepagexthl01.jpg[/img]

[img=640x336]https://www.arizonabiltmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/masthead-3-1920x1009.jpg[/img]

[img=560x294]https://www.arizonabiltmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/waldorf_biltmore_pool_1680x883.jpg[/img]

They had quite a bit of fun with how the light would interact with the property and it's strangely calming to walk around the grounds, and the "cave-like" feel really works for it. It pulls in enough of the landscape and of tradition that it's a bit like some old Pueblo man saw pictures of a Pompeii and decided to take his best shot at recreating it from memory.

Looks good. But needs to also hold up under the glare of sunlight just like how medieval and ancient buildings are able to do. Lots of buildings I see in Sydney have pretty lights at night but look awful during the day.

And grey just doesn't look good under the glare of the daylight sun.

Architecture is physical music. As music is auditory architecture.

What makes classical music excellent sound architecture. Is what makes classical well done architecture excellent physical music.
 

Aurini

Ostrich
Part of the reason for this ugly architecture is the pride of your average citizen. The arrogance, the narcissism - the love of movies which whisper to the psyche "You're just like Ironman and Captain America, heroism doesn't require sacrifice, all men are equal, your opinion is as good as anyone else." I remember speaking to a Protestant who argued that having a church in a strip-mall was more beautiful than a Cathedral because "God is everywhere." I wouldn't be surprised if us Catholics have to move to the catacombs and living rooms within our lifetime, but even if we do, we'll make those places beautiful out of respect for the Father; not tawdry and entertaining like Protestant youth centres.

The problem with beauty is that it humbles, as well as uplifts. All people recognize instinctually that Notre Dame is beautiful, almost unearthly in its beauty; but behold such beauty in person and regularly humbles oneself. When I see a typical modern church or home, I know that I could build it myself, with a few manuals; when I see a Cathedral like Notre Dame I'm awestruck by the sheer breadth of knowledge that went into it. It's not just the difficulty of the stone masonry, and the brilliance of the scaffolding crew - a building like that requires a deep understanding of mythology, Biblical scholarship, mathematics - and on and on. It is beyond me to create such a structure.

If we are to have beautiful cities, we require leaders who are elites, true elites, not the scheming mid-wits we have now. But in this era of mass-democracy and equality, where every man's opinion is equal to every other, elites are despised. Polymaths are derided. The mediocre, filled with pride, jealousy, and envy for their social betters, elect mediocre men and are then surprised that we have mediocre buildings.

A return to hierarchy, and an acceptance of one's place in the hierarchy, is a prerequisite to having a beautiful and functional civilization. Your average man spits on his betters, and declares himself the equal to all of them. They rebel against God, and claim that every man can interpret scripture in his own way, creating a religion of man with the veneer of holiness. These people are rotting and dying, one by one, without God to sustain them. Once these wretches have been wiped from the slate, then - and only then - might we start rebuilding a civilization that's worthy of man and God. Until then, all we can do is practice humbleness, patience, and love.
 
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