Another female teacher commits statutory rape of student

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Jack198

 
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Onto said:
Jack198 said:
Ok, I'm curious. Which work of Jung detailed this? I have to read it....

Quintus summarized it perfectly.

I'm not sure which of Jung's works goes into the concept of the Anima/Animas and Projection. If you google it there will be tons of websites that talk about it in depth. He died in 1961 so even though feminism has been slowly building since before women's suffrage, it hadn't reached the fever pitch in 1961 as it has today.

If you want to read a great book that takes both philosophical and psychoanalytic concepts and uses them in explaining modern day relationship types then definitely read Mark Dillof's "Awakening with the Enemy"

I never read any Jung, but you're right, there is a lot out there - here's a sample (from some tranny support group site, I presume). I think there is something to this theory. Sadly, I can see it used by defense attorneys to justify the actions of a child sexual predator. And yes, that's really what these selfish twats are, predators.
 

Onto

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Jack198 said:
Onto said:
Jack198 said:
Ok, I'm curious. Which work of Jung detailed this? I have to read it....

Quintus summarized it perfectly.

I'm not sure which of Jung's works goes into the concept of the Anima/Animas and Projection. If you google it there will be tons of websites that talk about it in depth. He died in 1961 so even though feminism has been slowly building since before women's suffrage, it hadn't reached the fever pitch in 1961 as it has today.

If you want to read a great book that takes both philosophical and psychoanalytic concepts and uses them in explaining modern day relationship types then definitely read Mark Dillof's "Awakening with the Enemy"

I never read any Jung, but you're right, there is a lot out there - here's a sample (from some tranny support group site, I presume). I think there is something to this theory. Sadly, I can see it used by defense attorneys to justify the actions of a child sexual predator. And yes, that's really what these selfish twats are, predators.

First of all I would look at a different site such as one dedicated to Jungian theory, perhaps even wikipedia. Transgender's and homosexuals are a specific brand of psychological perversion so their websites would not be good source for knowledge other than for seeing into the mind of the perverse.

Also, I don't see these female teachers as sexual predators of children. If they were sexual with a boy before he went through puberty than they certainly would be. Child sexual predators are often attracted to "innocence", specifically the acquisition and robbing of it. A person who has gone through puberty has lost their innocence already.
 

Jack198

 
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Onto said:
Jack198 said:
Onto said:
Jack198 said:
Ok, I'm curious. Which work of Jung detailed this? I have to read it....

Quintus summarized it perfectly.

I'm not sure which of Jung's works goes into the concept of the Anima/Animas and Projection. If you google it there will be tons of websites that talk about it in depth. He died in 1961 so even though feminism has been slowly building since before women's suffrage, it hadn't reached the fever pitch in 1961 as it has today.

If you want to read a great book that takes both philosophical and psychoanalytic concepts and uses them in explaining modern day relationship types then definitely read Mark Dillof's "Awakening with the Enemy"

I never read any Jung, but you're right, there is a lot out there - here's a sample (from some tranny support group site, I presume). I think there is something to this theory. Sadly, I can see it used by defense attorneys to justify the actions of a child sexual predator. And yes, that's really what these selfish twats are, predators.

First of all I would look at a different site such as one dedicated to Jungian theory, perhaps even wikipedia. Transgender's and homosexuals are a specific brand of psychological perversion so I wouldn't be using their websites as a source for knowledge.

Also, I don't see these female teachers as sexual predators. If they were sexual with a boy before they went through puberty than they certainly would be. Child sexual predators are often attracted to "innocence", specifically the acquisition and robbing of it.

I'm no expert on psych, but you are probably correct about the 'robbing the innocence' theory, particularly when very young children are involved.

In this case though, you and I disagree. At least in the US, an adult having sex with a 15 year old is usually considered crossing the legal age of consent and the adult perpetrating the act, male or female, knows it. The fact that so many of these people typically seek situations or employment which provide access to their targets (teachers, scout leaders, clergy, etc.) adds further to categorizing them as child predators.

I also dismiss the suggestion by too many people that this kind of thing is harmless to the development of young men. Mabe Jung or others wrote about that too; not sure.
 

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Rigsby said:
Cattle Rustler said:
Because American men her age are beta bitch boys.

That's why the older broads come to us young bustas.

They know we can fuck em good and got energy left, no need for viagara.


How old are you exactly?

22, been fucking older women since I was a freshman in HS.
 

Onto

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Jack198 said:
I'm no expert on psych, but you are probably correct about the 'robbing the innocence' theory, particularly when very young children are involved.

In this case though, you and I disagree. At least in the US, an adult having sex with a 15 year old is usually considered crossing the legal age of consent and the adult perpetrating the act, male or female, knows it. The fact that so many of these people typically seek situations or employment which provide access to their targets (teachers, scout leaders, clergy, etc.) adds further to categorizing them as child predators.

I also dismiss the suggestion by too many people that this kind of thing is harmless to the development of young men. Mabe Jung or others wrote about that too; not sure.

I think the difference is I don't see 15 year olds as children. I remember being 15 and wanting to bang any woman I could, especially the hot teachers. That said I agree high school teachers should refrain from messing around with their students, but I wouldn't put them in the same catagory as child molesters.

What I offered was an explanation for this particular modern day phenomenon. Explanation does not mean justification.

While were on the subject of children and innocence, I see American society in general having a perverse attraction to both.

Ever see an advertisement where the children are dressed as adults or depicted in an adult manner? This is a form of child molestation where innocence is being both glorified and robbed. Some groups in society notice this and protest, but most of society supports it.

Then there are the Whitney Houston type songs that espouse things like "Children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way."

Let them lead the way???. I'd rather have a man in this 70's that has gained a lifetime of wisdom lead the way, thank you.

Then there are the laws expanding child support to 21 and groups pushing for far beyond that.

Many cartoons and TV shows depict children as the smart ones and the adults as buffoons/idiots. "3rd Rock from the Sun" is a good example.

Though I've only seen one episode of "Modern Family" I saw enough to see it there too. The scene where the son orders his Dad to stand in the driveway so he can use his Dad's head as a backboard for his basketball was especially revolting, yet most of modern day America would see that as funny. The Father's mind reduced to a backboard for his son to abuse, and the Father just stands there and takes it with a smile.

National magazines put out their yearly list of top 10 heroes and the majority of them will be due to their work with children.

Modern day parenting espouses having children be part of the decision making process in all family matters including the important ones. Their lives sole purpose is for their children's "happiness".

This glorifying of children coupled with the efforts of maintaing their innocence for as long as possible is truly a modern day phenomenon that didn't exist as it is now 50 years ago and simply doesn't exist in other world cultures.

I see classifying high school students as children to be another manifestation of this perversion. This does't mean I advocate high school teachers being involved with students. There are more practical reasons against it.
 

Jack198

 
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Onto said:
Jack198 said:
I'm no expert on psych, but you are probably correct about the 'robbing the innocence' theory, particularly when very young children are involved.

In this case though, you and I disagree. At least in the US, an adult having sex with a 15 year old is usually considered crossing the legal age of consent and the adult perpetrating the act, male or female, knows it. The fact that so many of these people typically seek situations or employment which provide access to their targets (teachers, scout leaders, clergy, etc.) adds further to categorizing them as child predators.

I also dismiss the suggestion by too many people that this kind of thing is harmless to the development of young men. Mabe Jung or others wrote about that too; not sure.

I think the difference is I don't see 15 year olds as children. I remember being 15 and wanting to bang any woman I could, especially the hot teachers. That said I agree high school teachers should refrain from messing around with their students, but I wouldn't put them in the same catagory as child molesters.

What I offered was an explanation for this particular modern day phenomenon. Explanation does not mean justification.
...(never said it did, nor interpreted it that way).

National magazines put out their yearly list of top 10 heroes and the majority of them will be due to their work with children.

Modern day parenting espouses having children be part of the decision making process in all family matters including the important ones. Their lives sole purpose is for their children's "happiness".

This glorifying of children coupled with the efforts of maintaing their innocence for as long as possible is truly a modern day phenomenon that didn't exist as it is now 50 years ago and simply doesn't exist in other world cultures.

I see classifying high school students as children to be another manifestation of this perversion. This does't mean I advocate high school teachers being involved with students. There are more practical reasons against it.

Yep. And that bit about top ten heroes made me think of the molester behind the Tickle Me Elmo character from Sesame Street. Just sad....
 

puckerman

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From the age of about ten or eleven, the kids in these cases should have the pardon to power these adults. If the kids simply say it was okay, then the charges should be dropped.

He was willing.

I still have many issues with teachers of any age having sex with students of any age. Any teacher who has sex with a student should be fired immediately, and that applies to college professors as well.
 

Dr. Howard

 
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Though I don't agree on the ages per se, but I do agree with just much more straight up firing and less criminal prosecution
 

Jack198

 
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puckerman said:
From the age of about ten or eleven, the kids in these cases should have the pardon to power these adults. If the kids simply say it was okay, then the charges should be dropped.

He was willing.

I still have many issues with teachers of any age having sex with students of any age. Any teacher who has sex with a student should be fired immediately, and that applies to college professors as well.

A 15 year old can't sign a contract - hell, they can't even drive a car and are barely old enough for a facebook account. Even if there were widespread public (or at least Hollywood and twittersphere masquerading as general public) support to legislatively adjust the laws (and these days, who knows - this just might become the next cause du jour), I'm not sure there would be a great way to introduce this "pardon power" without creating a societal impression that it's "game on!" for adults to start cruising the high school dances.
 

infowarrior1

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Jack198 said:
puckerman said:
From the age of about ten or eleven, the kids in these cases should have the pardon to power these adults. If the kids simply say it was okay, then the charges should be dropped.

He was willing.

I still have many issues with teachers of any age having sex with students of any age. Any teacher who has sex with a student should be fired immediately, and that applies to college professors as well.

A 15 year old can't sign a contract - hell, they can't even drive a car and are barely old enough for a facebook account. Even if there were widespread public (or at least Hollywood and twittersphere masquerading as general public) support to legislatively adjust the laws (and these days, who knows - this just might become the next cause du jour), I'm not sure there would be a great way to introduce this "pardon power" without creating a societal impression that it's "game on!" for adults to start cruising the high school dances.

Perhaps there is something wrong with the concept of adolescence altogether:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200703/trashing-teens

Much of teenage angst is the result of our current extension of childhood.
 

Emancipator

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"She was formerly known as Jennifer Sexton"

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WB now and if I was a 15yo boy
 

Jack198

 
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"Perhaps there is something wrong with the concept of adolescence altogether:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200703/trashing-teens

Much of teenage angst is the result of our current extension of childhood."


From that article:

"Our current education system was created in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and was modeled after the new factories of the industrial revolution. Public schools, set up to supply the factories with a skilled labor force, crammed education into a relatively small number of years. We have tried to pack more and more in while extending schooling up to age 24 or 25, for some segments of the population."

Ironically, the kid who only went to school up til 8th grade in 1910 completed that level with more actual knowledge (math, grammar, world history, basic science) than a lot of so-called "college" graduates with worthless degrees do today. People used to get married well before age 25 and have several children. Nowadays you're still considered a child if you live with your parents through age 26.
 

MattW

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Loosely related, there's a movie now about a teacher getting with a student:



They turn the kid into the bad guy though, so she's the victim. Obviously.
 

whatday

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Cattle Rustler said:
Rigsby said:
Cattle Rustler said:
Because American men her age are beta bitch boys.

That's why the older broads come to us young bustas.

They know we can fuck em good and got energy left, no need for viagara.

How old are you exactly?

22, been fucking older women since I was a freshman in HS.

Jack198 said:
I also dismiss the suggestion by too many people that this kind of thing is harmless to the development of young men. Mabe Jung or others wrote about that too; not sure.

Well, there you go, Cattle Rustler, according to Jack198, you're damaged goods, lol. Not to worry though, a couple of years of intensive therapy, followed by several months of attendance at a secluded re-education facility away from cougar-town, and maybe, just maybe, we may be able to salvage some part of your innocence...you poor, innocent child, Cattle Rustler, lol.
 
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