AntiFA Thread

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
ChefAllDay said:
But if he doesn't, who will? Yes he may have been an idiot for being there, but he is at the very least bringing attention to the fact those neo-brown shirts are out there and will need to be dealt with at some point.
As I understand, ANTIFA made it openly clear the previous day that they knew he was there and that they were going to kick his ass into next year. He still attended which was brave but also utterly stupid.

Rule number one of martyring yourself. You have to actually be inspiring people that will act. Not a bunch of disgruntled internet warriors.



Keep racking 'em up. Redeem ten stamps for a Tweet from the POTUS himself!
 

VNvet

Kingfisher
Leonard D Neubache said:
So again, with respect because I like you, is there any actual evidence to suggest that struggles like this actually move the political needle at all?
This will trigger a right winger to go homicidal crazy on antifa (with FBI prodding, surely) and give the FBI/media casus belli to 100% shutdown anyone to the right of Hillary.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
So for the MAGA guys how is America fairing with cucked mayors like Portlands still going? Making America great again one communist boot to the face at a time I guess?
 

RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
He still attended which was brave but also utterly stupid.
Anyone with any common sense will stay far away from public events with Antifa present. This should be obvious by now. There is no benefit to going on their home turf.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Bike lock scumbag professor facing 11 years for multiple felony assault charges skates:


All Felony Assault Charges Dropped Against Bike Lock Prof. He’ll Serve Three Years Of Probation

Rob Shimshock
Education Reporter
August 08, 2018 9:18 PM ET

A California professor accused of bashing an individual in the head with a bike lock received three years of probation on Wednesday.

California convicted former Diablo Valley College ethics professor Eric Clanton of misdemeanor simple battery, but dropped three felony assault charges, according to the Alameda Superior Court database.

Clanton allegedly smacked an individual on the head with a bike lock in Berkeley, California, on April 15, 2017. Users on the social media site 4chan matched the former professor’s clothing, backpack straps and facial structure to that of the assailant. Police arrested Clanton on May 24, 2017. (RELATED: Police Arrest Professor Accused Of ‘Bike Lock’ Assault)

Clanton originally faced up to 11 years in prison. He was supposed to have a preliminary hearing Wednesday, but instead entered into a plea deal, reported Berkeleyside. Clanton submitted a “no contest” plea for misdemeanor battery and, in exchange, had three felony assault charges, a felony for inflicting serious bodily injury, and a misdemeanor mask-wearing charge dismissed.

Berkeley police reported that the former professor had hit at least seven people in the head with a bike lock. He allegedly hit one victim in the back and neck, another on a helmet, severing a piece of it off, and another across the head, creating a wound that needed five staples to mend.

Clanton’s court record showed that he served four days in jail.

The California Highway Patrol arrested Clanton in January 2014, suspecting that he was “willfully and maliciously” blocking a public vicinity and performing a “public nuisance,” but police did not charge him during that occasion and the former professor has not had any previous convictions.

The former professor called the concept of a moral high ground a notion of the “narrative class,” in a May interview with Rolling Stone. But while he spoke to the publication, he did not submit himself to a police interview and “immediately invoked his rights to an attorney,” according to court documents obtained by Berkeleyside.
 

AneroidOcean

Hummingbird
Gold Member
spokepoker said:
Can the people he attacked go after him somehow? Press charges? Sue for injury?
Civil court, with a somewhat lower standard of proof. However, if he's not worth anything it's unlikely that it would be worth it. I think they should just for the principle, but it's a travesty of justice that he plead out. It's one thing if he'd hit 1 person (and the person miraculously didn't get a major injury, but he hit 7 people!

Andy Ngo Go Fund Me is at nearly 150k (in 1 day) from a goal of 50k:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/protect-andy-ngo-fund

We already know these people are sick, but the media and courts being complicit is even worse.
 
AneroidOcean said:
spokepoker said:
Can the people he attacked go after him somehow? Press charges? Sue for injury?
Civil court, with a somewhat lower standard of proof. However, if he's not worth anything it's unlikely that it would be worth it. I think they should just for the principle, but it's a travesty of justice that he plead out. It's one thing if he'd hit 1 person (and the person miraculously didn't get a major injury, but he hit 7 people!

Andy Ngo Go Fund Me is at nearly 150k (in 1 day) from a goal of 50k:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/protect-andy-ngo-fund

We already know these people are sick, but the media and courts being complicit is even worse.
The problem with the gofundmes is that they create this huge incentive for people to invent sob stories to get their purported "allies" to send them hundreds of thousands of dollars. Look at the Kavenaugh/Ford debacle. Both of them got millions in gofundme and Kavenaugh donated his to charity, but Ford walked away with a fortune from the democrat paypigs that ate up her false rape accusation.
 

El Chinito loco

Crow
Gold Member
BortimusPrime said:
AneroidOcean said:
spokepoker said:
Can the people he attacked go after him somehow? Press charges? Sue for injury?
Civil court, with a somewhat lower standard of proof. However, if he's not worth anything it's unlikely that it would be worth it. I think they should just for the principle, but it's a travesty of justice that he plead out. It's one thing if he'd hit 1 person (and the person miraculously didn't get a major injury, but he hit 7 people!

Andy Ngo Go Fund Me is at nearly 150k (in 1 day) from a goal of 50k:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/protect-andy-ngo-fund

We already know these people are sick, but the media and courts being complicit is even worse.
The problem with the gofundmes is that they create this huge incentive for people to invent sob stories to get their purported "allies" to send them hundreds of thousands of dollars. Look at the Kavenaugh/Ford debacle. Both of them got millions in gofundme and Kavenaugh donated his to charity, but Ford walked away with a fortune from the democrat paypigs that ate up her false rape accusation.
I haven't discounted that there is another angle to this whole incident.

Let's be frank..fags love attention.

Attention whoring is a favorite past time for these types. This incident was so stupid that I think Ngo probably knew he was going to get owned but he did it for the right wing version of the attention and up cummies.

During the height of Milo Mania, Milo was planning on going on a march through Sweden's "no go zone" muslim district. Someone talked him off the ledge on that one. He decided to cancel the march but I think the outcome would probably have not been good for Milo there either.

Like I said fags love attention and sometimes they get themselves in mortal danger because their need for drama in their lives often outweighs common sense.
 
I haven't discounted that there is another angle to this whole incident.

Let's be frank..fags love attention.

Attention whoring is a favorite past time for these types. This incident was so stupid that I think Ngo probably knew he was going to get owned but he did it for the right wing version of the attention and up cummies.

During the height of Milo Mania, Milo was planning on going on a march through Sweden's "no go zone" muslim district. Someone talked him off the ledge on that one. He decided to cancel the march but I think the outcome would probably have not been good for Milo there either.

Like I said fags love attention and sometimes they get themselves in mortal danger because their need for drama in their lives often outweighs common sense.
He's a journalist for a right-wing publication, getting video of the anarchy in Portland, which he has done before, and it's about attention because he's gay?

He just put his literal life on the line to prove to you that that city is a no-go zone with no law enforcement presence, and possibly further the narrative that Antifa are terrorists, or a gang. How is that bad?

Unlike Milo this dude actually followed through.
 

El Chinito loco

Crow
Gold Member
Lost in Transfiguration said:
He's a journalist for a right-wing publication, getting video of the anarchy in Portland, which he has done before, and it's about attention because he's gay?

He just put his literal life on the line to prove to you that that city is a no-go zone with no law enforcement presence, and possibly further the narrative that Antifa are terrorists, or a gang. How is that bad?

Unlike Milo this dude actually followed through.
If a person chooses to climb into the chimpanzee pen in the zoo and gets savagely mauled while trying to take up close nature videos despite knowing the risks then who exercised poor judgement here?

What new insights did Ngo reveal by needlessly getting fucked up?

We already knew antifa are a violent collection of communists and anarchists with shady globalist funding.* edit: I should say backing because we still don't know for certain how many antifa groups are directly funded.

We already knew the media and government turns a blind eye to their criminal acts.

There were no political narrative victories here.

Like I said this incident will just echo chamber within the ranks of alt-light/alt-right media while the left and the government continues to play dumb. Some boomer conservatives might pay it lip service but ultimately nothing will happen. I repeat..NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

It will ultimately have to be a much more serious incident that will cause people on both sides to start questioning this hypocrisy.
 
You sound a bit salty for some reason, man. I'd say it's all about optics, narratives, perceptions. Somebody, not the MSM, has to cover the stuff. He did. The optics don't look good on this one for antifa. The meme has to be pushed home that they're violent, this has to be said over and over again, with images as proof for blue pill Democrats and even some Republicans to realize what's going on. The narrative here is that a small, foreigner, Asian, gay, conservative journalist was attacked by people (antifa) that are supposedly inclusive, anti-hate, pro-gay, pro-immigrant, etc.

There are main stream figures in the media and politics calling this one for what it is. I already saw a condemnation from Andrew Yang, and I think it was Chris Cuomo of CNN. Even if nothing changes it shows the ridiculous nature of their narrative, they themselves are taking on fascist/ bolshevist qualities, and exposes the internal contradictions of their arguments and behaviors. I feel bad for the guy but the optics on this one are pretty bad for Antifa. And it shows out morally bankrupt modern leftism is becoming, and even if much is not said in condemnation, almost more is said buy was not said. Silence. From many in the left, that doesn't look good.
 

El Chinito loco

Crow
Gold Member
Lost in Transfiguration said:
You sound a bit salty for some reason, man. I'd say it's all about optics, narratives, perceptions. Somebody, not the MSM, has to cover the stuff. He did. The optics don't look good on this one for antifa. The meme has to be pushed home that they're violent, this has to be said over and over again, with images as proof for blue pill Democrats and even some Republicans to realize what's going on. The narrative here is that a small, foreigner, Asian, gay, conservative journalist was attacked by people (antifa) that are supposedly inclusive, anti-hate, pro-gay, pro-immigrant, etc.
I've been saying all along that from a political narrative and optics point of view this isn't going to go anywhere. Let me reiterate once more since you don't seem to get it..asians in particular do not matter to the liberal mainstream.

In fact i'd say asians in general are thought of as a "privileged" group among mainstream liberals because asians do not fit into their racial hierarchy. You don't understand the political nuance here. This whole "antifa are the real racists!" angle being played right now is dumb. For all intents and purposes when it comes to liberal identity politics asians are almost thought of as having white privilege anyways.

Andy Ngo will not elicit any sort of awakening for the vast majority of conservatives or liberals because he's not really as sympathetic a figure as you are painting him out to be.

Everyone knows antifa is violent already. This isn't some gotcha moment unless you're a baby boomer in which case yeah this might be a slight revelation. They have been on the news constantly for years now rioting in public and fighting in public. The mainstream media consistently downplays this or calls it "right wing" instigated violence.

I don't think you comprehend how much the mainstream establishment is on their side. If you believe this is going to shift any political narrative man..you have some surprises coming.
 
Leonard D Neubache said:
Is there any actual evidence of this?

My personal theory is that the Silicon Valley algorithms lock up this content in a user base that comprises perhaps 5-10 percent of the population, giving them impression of outreach without actually reaching anyone new. Beyond that echochamber these content creators are shadowbanned.

From what I gather the 40 percent remainder of the Right voting population just get softball garbage in their Facebook feeds and are largely unaware of any of this apart from the occasional Fox snippet where they shrug and say "that's the West coast for you".

Trump got bitchslapped in the mid-terms despite all this "incredible journalism" from the Right.

So again, with respect because I like you, is there any actual evidence to suggest that struggles like this actually move the political needle at all? Or is it just a perpetual poking of the ant-nest to make the most committed Right wing 10% of the population think they're at battle stations 24/7? Are we all just fooling ourselves into thinking the world sees this when in reality it's just a few people who're committed to the Right regardless?
Something has to be done and Andy Ngo at least has done something to document and therefore combat leftist delirium. Over $150,000 raised for one conservative man, however much people have tried to point out his homosexuality here and elsewhere, is no small matter, either.

People sometimes need incentives to risk themselves and Andy risked himself multiple times before without the promise of significant financial reward. So, at a minimum in my book, he’s more deserving of that money - and will put it to better use - than most others.

I understand your pessimism, Leonard, but we have to start and also continue from somewhere.

Algorithms may restrict access to particular stories but you’re forgetting that the same companies behind those algorithms were totally against Trump winning in 2016, along with Wall Street and the MSM, yet Trump won.

Yes, not everyone is out on the street or fulfils the requirement of fully-fledged thought criminal, but countless people see through the bullshit.

To those people ridiculing or doubting Ngo:

I never suggested him being beaten up is a kind of political earthquake. Rather, the response by the non-left is a sign of how increasingly fed up a number of people are with political correctness and leftist endorsement of violence against those they disagree with. They’re willing, many of them, to translate that dissatisfaction into supporting Ngo financially.

Anyone arguing that Ngo’s plight has not registered with people was proven wrong within 24 hours of the assault. The days after only amplified the effect. It’s also a straw man to say that this won’t change our political landscape. Of course it won’t by itself and none of us said it would.

The sooner more people see that they could be in Ngo’s shoes before too long the better. We do not currently have sufficient anger at the double standards, but a journalist like him is doing more good than bad. In fact, he’s doing nothing bad at all. Cut him some slack.

El Chinito especially, with respect, is nitpicking regarding the premise that Ngo is stupid for going out and also rather fixated on him allegedly being a gay attention-seeker. Again, who cares?

We lost nothing by Andy Ngo being beaten up, so why the over-analysis of his sexuality or motives? If you wouldn’t go out like he does, fine, say it once and then be done with it.

How exactly did we come out worse when a gay Asian journalist was seriously assaulted by a mob of self-declared pro-minority leftist whites with their faces cowardly covered? Not everyone who saw the video will fully understand the identity politics irony of this whole episode, but it in no way strengthens antifa’s hand.

I repeat: We risked NOTHING by video of Andy Ngo being clobbered getting out. Even Mayor Ted Wheeler was forced to condemn the violence, despite not denouncing antifa or specifically mentioning Ngo.
 
david.garrett84 said:
We lost nothing by Andy Ngo being beaten up, so why the over-analysis of his sexuality or motives? If you wouldn’t go out like he does, fine, say it once and then be done with it.

How exactly did we come out worse when a gay Asian journalist was seriously assaulted by a mob of self-declared pro-minority leftist whites with their faces cowardly covered? Not everyone who saw the video will fully understand the identity politics irony of this whole episode, but it in no way strengthens antifa’s hand.

I repeat: We risked NOTHING by video of Andy Ngo being clobbered getting out. Even Mayor Ted Wheeler was forced to condemn the violence, despite not denouncing antifa or specifically mentioning Ngo.
I disagree. I am glad Ngo at least tried to expose Antifa for what they are to the low IQ normies still asleep behind the wheel, but it will probably be too little too late.

If Trump cucks again, and I think we all here know he will, and he will once again let down his base, then nothing gets done. So if the guy who won against all odds for the sole purpose to stop this doesn't even try, then what does that do? That signals not just to Antifa but to all violent leftist protesters that it is open season on any right wing 1A rights.

So if anyone right of CNN tries to have a political rally they can be crushed, beaten and destroyed and no response will come of it.

Ngo tried, but in the end Trump will turn this into a major loss for his base too. The guy is just full of failure and it is extremely disappointing.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
For one, the Clanton bike lock attacks and consequent plea bargain indicates just how stupid you have to be to think that you can play games like this in enemy territory. And yes, it's not America, not in any meaningful sense anymore. Let me explain how this works.

Marxist-appointed-public-prosecutor: Gee. I have a huge case load *wink wink*. How about we drop these frivolous charges and your client pleads guilty to misdemeanor battery?
Marxist-appointed-public-defender: Sounds fair *wink wink*.
Marxist-appointed-judge: Done and done! 3 years probation. Stick to fighting the good fight in the classroom for the rest of Trump's first term, fellow traveler.
Clanton: Yes sir! But what if I get brought up on federal charges?
Marxist-appointed-judge: Don't worry. For some reason Trump hasn't purged DOJ. It's still our people.

As for Ngo, I agree that his stupidity will yield results but not the ones the average right wing pundit expects. It will make it further clear to anyone really paying attention that Trump has done jack shit to bring these criminal cartel states to heel.

You know what every conservative pundit says when someone asks "why do Red states keep bending over for the federal government?"

"Gotta keep access to them federal highway and education funds".

Funny how that never seems to blow back on the progressive hives when the Republicans are in office.

You are living in Israeli occupied territory. There are no rules except the ZOG gets what the ZOG wants. There is only the pretense of rules and the pretense of democracy to keep the dumb sheep on this stupid 24 hour news treadmill, and there is decreasingly any excuse to believe otherwise.

For the love of God. Your maverick god-emperor is in the Whitehouse and nothing has changed. It's like the deep-state is playing an enormous joke just to see how much cognitive dissonance the average Right wing normie will exercise, simply to avoid the obvious and ugly truth. They're daring you to wake up and most of you simply refuse!

If you choose to accept that you're living under a ZOGovernment and organise your resistance accordingly then you will not be disappointed.

If you choose to believe you're participating in a sovereign democracy with any semblance of justice and equality under the law then you will be perpetually chewed up and spat out without ever grasping why.

Wake up.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Apparently Ngo wasn't even the main victim in Portland, the anitfas pummeled an old man with corwbar hits to the head:

[img=600x300]https://cdn.summit.news/2019/07/010719victim.jpg[/img]
Portland Antifa beats an elderly man bloody with a crowbar. As another man attempts to help, he is hit in head with crowbar then sprayed in face with mace.

This guy did it:

[img=600x350]https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-co...a-Suspect-Identified-Skull-Fracture.jpg[/img]

The video of the attack has been yanked out from Twitter, couldn't find it (account that had it got bannned)

The Internet was horrified by shocking images of Adam Kelly, who had his skull fractured by a metal pipe during the violent protests in Portland over the weekend, and VDARE now believes it has identified the suspect.

After a weekend of violence in Portland that resulted in independent journalist Andy Ngo being hospitalized with a brain hemorrhage and another man, Kelly, left with a fractured skull after being bashed with a metal pipe, the publication VDARE believes it has identified the man who struck Kelly.

VDARE first asked for help in identifying a suspect, who they say committed “attempted murder with a deadly weapon.” In a follow up tweet, VDARE wrote “Suspect Identified: Joseph Christian Evans,” adding “Seen during Portland #Antifa Riot Assaulting Adam Kelly over the head with a metal pipe sending him to the Emergency Room.”


http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/new-video-shows-antifa-crowbar-attack-on-elderly-man
 
911 said:
Apparently Ngo wasn't even the main victim in Portland, the anitfas pummeled an old man with corwbar hits to the head:

[img=600x300]https://cdn.summit.news/2019/07/010719victim.jpg[/img]
Portland Antifa beats an elderly man bloody with a crowbar. As another man attempts to help, he is hit in head with crowbar then sprayed in face with mace.

This guy did it:

[img=600x350]https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-co...a-Suspect-Identified-Skull-Fracture.jpg[/img]

The video of the attack has been yanked out from Twitter, couldn't find it (account that had it got bannned)

The Internet was horrified by shocking images of Adam Kelly, who had his skull fractured by a metal pipe during the violent protests in Portland over the weekend, and VDARE now believes it has identified the suspect.

After a weekend of violence in Portland that resulted in independent journalist Andy Ngo being hospitalized with a brain hemorrhage and another man, Kelly, left with a fractured skull after being bashed with a metal pipe, the publication VDARE believes it has identified the man who struck Kelly.

VDARE first asked for help in identifying a suspect, who they say committed “attempted murder with a deadly weapon.” In a follow up tweet, VDARE wrote “Suspect Identified: Joseph Christian Evans,” adding “Seen during Portland #Antifa Riot Assaulting Adam Kelly over the head with a metal pipe sending him to the Emergency Room.”


http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/new-video-shows-antifa-crowbar-attack-on-elderly-man
This whole thing went beyond "milkshakes" and they were using deadly weapons to smash people. And the police were nowhere to be found. It is suspected they were ordered to stand back and just observe.
 

Yatagan

Pelican
Gold Member
Antifa are the brownshirts/SA of the globalist establishment, anybody that thinks they're going to get treated equally in the legal system as them needs to quit snorting the Elmer's glue.
 
So who exactly orders the cops to stand down and let these tards have their way with anyone who disagrees with them? Is it the mayor of the cities? That would be the only one with the municipal authority to tell police to stand down during a riot or protest. I think people should contact the governor's of these states and come down hard on the mayors of these cities where the attacks happen. I have lots of cop friends, but they're in the cities where they are they can still do their job, for now, though limited.

I don't care what the repercussions are, if I was cornered by them I would take out as many as I could. Though I would rather not waste my life dealing with the useless idiots in the playbook.
 
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