Anyone demoralized about job opportunities?

areyouaweir

 
Banned
Catholic
I'm worried about the impact of the tsunami of coming job losses... and millions of people looking for a way to make money online. A proportion of that will inevitably fall my way.

I may lose my six figure remote engineering job because of refusal to get vaccinated and am planning to just trade in the stock market tbh. Don't know where that will lead.. I have been trading for a year now and know we're in a bull market, but am confident enough to pull in $4-5k/month. If we enter into a bear market though, that would be unfortunate.
 

fireshark

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Just had to turn down a very good job offer with the my state government, that perfectly suited my professional background, due to forced vax requirements. The person interviewing me was floored when I immediately stopped the interview to walk out as soon as they said being fully vaxed is mandatory.

God have mercy on your servant. I really need a solid job.
 

amor_fati

Pigeon
Orthodox Inquirer
Just had to turn down a very good job offer with the my state government, that perfectly suited my professional background, due to forced vax requirements. The person interviewing me was floored when I immediately stopped the interview to walk out as soon as they said being fully vaxed is mandatory.

God have mercy on your servant. I really need a solid job.
Respect brother! God bless you.
 

Celibate Warrior21

Sparrow
Other Christian
Just had to turn down a very good job offer with the my state government, that perfectly suited my professional background, due to forced vax requirements. The person interviewing me was floored when I immediately stopped the interview to walk out as soon as they said being fully vaxed is mandatory.

God have mercy on your servant. I really need a solid job.

I have a friend who is a waiter and he gets by just by doing that and he has time to spend with his kids every weekend. Are you married? single? what's your current situation? Maybe people here can give good advice.
 

Mike_Key

Woodpecker
Just had to turn down a very good job offer with the my state government, that perfectly suited my professional background, due to forced vax requirements. The person interviewing me was floored when I immediately stopped the interview to walk out as soon as they said being fully vaxed is mandatory.

God have mercy on your servant. I really need a solid job.
If that opportunity isn't dead, ask if you can sign on and immediately have access to the Internet portal that all other Gov't employees were privileged to populate with information where you ask for a religious exemption. It doesn't matter if you are not religious - Civ Rights 1964 says your religion doesn't have to make sense to anyone. Period.

John 3:16
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Just had to turn down a very good job offer with the my state government, that perfectly suited my professional background, due to forced vax requirements. The person interviewing me was floored when I immediately stopped the interview to walk out as soon as they said being fully vaxed is mandatory.

God have mercy on your servant. I really need a solid job.
If it makes you feel any better, being that is public sector, there is a good chance everyone you worked with would have been incompetent, woke, Covidians.
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I have a friend who is a waiter and he gets by just by doing that and he has time to spend with his kids every weekend. Are you married? single? what's your current situation? Maybe people here can give good advice.
When it comes to jobs just to get by, I’ve always been partial to non-CDL driving roles. Lots of autonomy, get outside, no office politics, easy peasy generally, downtime to study or do whatever.
 

fireshark

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I have a friend who is a waiter and he gets by just by doing that and he has time to spend with his kids every weekend. Are you married? single? what's your current situation? Maybe people here can give good advice.

Unfortunately, I can't realistically work in any food service roles due to an allergy. I'm married, no kids, but we are planning to have at least one, God willing.

If that opportunity isn't dead, ask if you can sign on and immediately have access to the Internet portal that all other Gov't employees were privileged to populate with information where you ask for a religious exemption. It doesn't matter if you are not religious - Civ Rights 1964 says your religion doesn't have to make sense to anyone. Period.

John 3:16

I vowed never to take any job that forces people to get the magic juice. On principle, even if granted an exemption, I can't accept that they require anyone to do this. Also, waking in to a new job and immediately having a fight on my hands...sounds like a way to kill any future advancement right away.

If it makes you feel any better, being that is public sector, there is a good chance everyone you worked with would have been incompetent, woke, Covidians.

Judging by the interviewer's reaction, this is very likely. Also, based people who stood up to the mandate have probably already left the agency.

When it comes to jobs just to get by, I’ve always been partial to non-CDL driving roles. Lots of autonomy, get outside, no office politics, easy peasy generally, downtime to study or do whatever.

I've seen a few openings for these. It's something I would consider, but I'd like to find something that at least uses one of my professional skill sets or desired skill sets.
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
I was pretty demoralized trying to find work. I eventually gave up and started outright lying on my resume.

First, I went on LinkedIn and found some other goober who had a job that I could BS my way into and stole their job description for my resume. I edited it around so it wasn't exact. Next I deleted my linkedin and purged all of my social media presence and job profiles online. No sense exposing my lie.

Next, is to write on your resume that you were a "contractor." Why a contractor? There's no way to verify via background checks that you actually worked there. Even if they call HR the answer is, "no". To verify you worked there, they'll ask for 1099s. You can fake these easily too. Just match the EIN.

I applied to a few jobs I knew I could do using the resume buzz words I stole from the goober above. Eventually, I got the jack pot of job interviews and found a decent job, heck I still have 2 more job interviews next week. We'll see if they go anywhere.

There isn't a labor shortage at all but a self-imposed one thanks to idiot HR drones and recruitards.
 

Pointy Elbows

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I was pretty demoralized trying to find work. I eventually gave up and started outright lying on my resume.

First, I went on LinkedIn and found some other goober who had a job that I could BS my way into and stole their job description for my resume. I edited it around so it wasn't exact. Next I deleted my linkedin and purged all of my social media presence and job profiles online. No sense exposing my lie.

Next, is to write on your resume that you were a "contractor." Why a contractor? There's no way to verify via background checks that you actually worked there. Even if they call HR the answer is, "no". To verify you worked there, they'll ask for 1099s. You can fake these easily too. Just match the EIN.

I applied to a few jobs I knew I could do using the resume buzz words I stole from the goober above. Eventually, I got the jack pot of job interviews and found a decent job, heck I still have 2 more job interviews next week. We'll see if they go anywhere.

There isn't a labor shortage at all but a self-imposed one thanks to idiot HR drones and recruitards.
Oh man, The Beast1 dropping a "Bogus Job Application Datasheet" in one post. Didn't see that coming.
 

Pointy Elbows

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I've seen a few openings for these. It's something I would consider, but I'd like to find something that at least uses one of my professional skill sets or desired skill sets.
Truck driver thread has some comments about non-CDL driver options. Not endorsing The Beast1's methods - they may pull a real DMV record.
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Oh man, The Beast1 dropping a "Bogus Job Application Datasheet" in one post. Didn't see that coming.
Also for @Elipe , I'm not proud of it at all but it had to be done. I have kids and another on the way and need something real and stable.

I have a massively non linear professional track ranging from IT, sales, marketing and also a failed business (did get revenue but COVID ended that).

Contrary to boomer platitudes about explaining yourselves, HR and recruiters don't want people who have varied skills on resumes at all. They want neat little cogs that can be slotted into the business machine.

You can try to explain yourself in a cover letter but they don't care when there are 50 other safe applicants with tidy and neat linear resumes.

I thought job hopping would get me to level up quickly (it sort of did) but I found that once you've tried your hand at entrepreneurship, you are basically toxic to HR and recruiters unless you have an ivy league or top stem college degree. That was a whole year of wasted time.

My advice will get you to the interview but you will have to be one helluva good bullsh*tter to get through that. Make sure you can walk the walk. Every job I applied to, I would save the job description to pdf, had a "cheat sheet" of things I could talk to during the interview (thanks covid digital interviews), and my resume open so I could talk to the role and keep my lies straight.

You can apply to jobs on indeed which works well enough.

The job I am in now I am wholly capable of doing but don't have that mystical 3-4 years experience. The company I work for now is actually pretty good but I got the sense I was their 2nd choice.

I've become so jaded by the job market, HR, and recruiters. I find a loophole and used it. I hope others in a similar predicament find this useful.
 
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Nomadiccat

 
Banned
Oriental Orthodox
I was pretty demoralized trying to find work. I eventually gave up and started outright lying on my resume.

First, I went on LinkedIn and found some other goober who had a job that I could BS my way into and stole their job description for my resume. I edited it around so it wasn't exact. Next I deleted my linkedin and purged all of my social media presence and job profiles online. No sense exposing my lie.

Next, is to write on your resume that you were a "contractor." Why a contractor? There's no way to verify via background checks that you actually worked there. Even if they call HR the answer is, "no". To verify you worked there, they'll ask for 1099s. You can fake these easily too. Just match the EIN.

I applied to a few jobs I knew I could do using the resume buzz words I stole from the goober above. Eventually, I got the jack pot of job interviews and found a decent job, heck I still have 2 more job interviews next week. We'll see if they go anywhere.

There isn't a labor shortage at all but a self-imposed one thanks to idiot HR drones and recruitards.

Regarding demands for 1099, "coffee stain" touches are making it look more real, little artistic touches. :laughter:
It's good to use resumes without a name or with modified name (alias), it's perfectly normal, so that the stuff doesn't float online tied to real name and shows up on some check later.
Remove anything from resume that points to one's age, like education years.
Job descriptions is a matter of pure creativity these days and are only meant to appease dumb HR leeches and managers.
Required years of experience is the matter of the same, creativity and nothing else.
Buzzwords to pass their computer pre-test, they often put resumes through text analyzer to scan for buzz words otherwise a human will never even see it
I've done a lot of software interviews, both as interviewee and interviewer, for big tech, being a good bullsh*tter and, well, a good convincing liar is a key these days and being pleasant and charming under interview stress is another half of the battle.
Sometimes people go 100% BS route and can not walk the walk, and then hire someone to coach them daily and do their tasks, as they start a new job while they have no clue about the tech used, seen this done very successfully.
But honestly, modern US corporate environment is so appalling that it's best to avoid any place where all this BS is required to get in, to begin with.
 

Enoch

Hummingbird
Construction company owner here:

Join a trade union. The union is more likely to go to bat for you over Covid mandates. The CBAs they negotiate with the participating employers FORBID unilateral changes to conditions of employment. Unions are still very strong legally in this country.

"Republicans" tricking normal people into assuming all unions are bad was a great move.
 

Zach

Sparrow
Catholic
If you want an office type/work from home job that has huge earning potential long run, Financial Advisory Administrative Assistant/Wealth Management. As long as you have a bachelor's degree, (sometimes they don't even care about that) you can get an entry level job as an admin for a small wealth management place. (independent RIA, not Edward Jones/Merrill Lynch/Etc.) Opening accounts/answering calls/ etc. The smaller the firm, the better, and you can learn the ins and outs of the wealth mgmt space. There are so many training opportunities at these types of places where they will pay for your licenses/etc. to become a broker or IAR. I would recommend one that does Fee-only planning/asset mgmt, and not the scummy commission crap. Also, these are usually very small businesses with oftentimes, less than 10 advisors/employees, so vaxx mandate is not gonna be much of a thing. Also, once you start gathering your own clients, you'll be 1099 independent contractor under the RIA.

This is what I did in college, and now I'm a full fledged CFP working for the same small RIA (Registered Investment Advisory Firm) I work with 3 advisors over 60, have my own growing book, a small administrative salary, and will be buying their books in the next 2-5 years. If all goes as planned I can be making $300-500k by the time I'm like 35. Its mostly all from home as well.

It can take 3-5 years to get where I am at, but that's pretty much standard in any trade as well. The average Financial Advisor is like 55. There are tons of these smaller firms out there looking for young people to train up in the business and sell to.
 
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fireshark

Kingfisher
Other Christian
If you want an office type/work from home job that has huge earning potential long run, Financial Advisory Administrative Assistant/Wealth Management. As long as you have a bachelor's degree, (sometimes they don't even care about that) you can get an entry level job as an admin for a small wealth management place. (independent RIA, not Edward Jones/Merrill Lynch/Etc.) Opening accounts/answering calls/ etc. The smaller the firm, the better, and you can learn the ins and outs of the wealth mgmt space. There are so many training opportunities at these types of places where they will pay for your licenses/etc. to become a broker or IAR. I would recommend one that does Fee-only planning/asset mgmt, and not the scummy commission crap. Also, these are usually very small businesses with oftentimes, less than 10 advisors/employees, so vaxx mandate is not gonna be much of a thing. Also, once you start gathering your own clients, you'll be 1099 independent contractor under the RIA.

This is what I did in college, and now I'm a full fledged CFP working for the same small RIA (Registered Investment Advisory Firm) I work with 3 advisors over 60, have my own growing book, a small administrative salary, and will be buying their books in the next 2-5 years. If all goes as planned I can be making $300-500k by the time I'm like 35. Its mostly all from home as well.

It can take 3-5 years to get where I am at, but that's pretty much standard in any trade as well. The average Financial Advisor is like 55. There are tons of these smaller firms out there looking for young people to train up in the business and sell to.

That's a great suggestion and appreciate the tips for getting started. Thank you. I have the bachelor's, and some experience tracking financials, though nothing directly relevant. I'm going to apply for some and see if I can get any interest.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
The other strategy is to go to small places with under 100 employees (my ideal target size even pre-COVID). At that level you're generally dealing with no HR departments, managers ware more open minded and curious, and a lack of gatekeepers to stop you from having that conversation with the person you'd be working for.
 

Maddox

Kingfisher
Protestant
Contrary to boomer platitudes about explaining yourselves, HR and recruiters don't want people who have varied skills on resumes at all. They want neat little cogs that can be slotted into the business machine.

You can try to explain yourself in a cover letter but they don't care when there are 50 other safe applicants with tidy and neat linear resumes.

This has been my experience too. I signed up with a temp agency years ago and the lady submitted me for an entry-level office job. I thought my web dev experience would come in handy since it was a skill they could make use of if they needed another set of hands.

When my headhunter saw this on my resume, she said, "We need to get rid of the web dev experience. If they see you have more than one skill set, they'll freak."


I thought job hopping would get me to level up quickly (it sort of did) but I found that once you've tried your hand at entrepreneurship, you are basically toxic to HR and recruiters unless you have an ivy league or top stem college degree. That was a whole year of wasted time.

This too. Years ago, one lady said she wouldn't hire me because I spent my time in between jobs trying to run my own business. She thought I'd get bored at her office job and want to go back to working from home.
 

Monty_Brogan

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Construction company owner here:

Join a trade union. The union is more likely to go to bat for you over Covid mandates. The CBAs they negotiate with the participating employers FORBID unilateral changes to conditions of employment. Unions are still very strong legally in this country.

"Republicans" tricking normal people into assuming all unions are bad was a great move.

LOL. No they’re not. I don’t buy into the Republican v Dem (they’re both scum IMO) but trade unions ARE NOT backing their troops. Source? I work high rise construction in a skilled trade for a company listed on the NYSE. We were all called into the office and read a company wide memo stating if the EO passed you either get the shot, get a exemption (weekly testing and masks) or be terminated on the spot.

The only union sticking up for their troops is the post office. I’ll give you a guess why if you’ve ever been to a big city and seen the racial breakdown of the USPS.

In fact, this coof hysteria has done more to break unions than any “republican” could ever dream of.
 

Zach

Sparrow
Catholic
That's a great suggestion and appreciate the tips for getting started. Thank you. I have the bachelor's, and some experience tracking financials, though nothing directly relevant. I'm going to apply for some and see if I can get any interest.

If you want, you can PM me your resume (with all personal info removed, of course) and I can give you thoughts. I know what these businesses are looking for, I can help with the industry jargon that will help you stand out. The important thing is finding one that is an RIA, or at least a "hybrid RIA" or moving to becoming an RIA. Commission is dying, and to be avoided. and that they offer industry advancement/training to those interested in the field. These things are becoming increasingly very common. You can find if they are RIA by their website at the bottom, it will be in a little disclaimer. It will say something like :

Investment Advice offered through (firm name)., a Registered Investment Advisor firm. (RIA)
 
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