Anyone else feel general dislike toward members of your own ethnic group?

Brosemite

Ostrich
Gold Member
Rorogue said:
But generally the ethnics here have a great time and live their life- if they don't interact with whites or Anglos here, it's because they prefer their own culture and stay with with their own.

I'd say this applies to most Vietnamese & Korean people here in the US.

Koreans definitely enjoy their camaraderie but do not often engage in mainstream activities that the rest of western society partakes in. They're content people who are perceived as more closed off & can honestly say they don't really possess an inferiority complex.

Vietnamese are similar in the fact that they really enjoy the camaraderie of their own culture yet are overwhelmingly more charismatic, openly funny, politically incorrect, resilient on a social level, and more relatable to Non-Asian individuals. They embrace things like Mexican food, American football, becoming engaged in politics (mainly conservative leanings in Texas), and quickly learning to naturally mimic social mannerisms of the westernized folks surrounding them in their daily lives.

Heck...most Vietnamese have taken football to the next level because they love gambling on NCAA & NFL games.

Big difference between Koreans and Viets here too is:
Koreans - Friendship is everything
Vietnamese - Family is everything

Being Half Taiwanese/Half Vietnamese myself, I'd say that most American born Chinese dudes here in Texas are quite integrated into the scene as these are chill adjusted dudes.

I can't for some reason stand most American Born Chinese dudes in California or New Jersey though. These dudes have serious inferiority complexes, look grimy, have bad haircuts, get questionable tattoos, overspend on dressing hip hop, get passive aggressive, and unfortunately serve as the "mainstream voice" in the US of perpetuating negative self limiting beliefs that certain Asian dudes have about themselves.

I think it's a good thing that Asian ethnicities are somewhat divided....bc it's always bottom of the barrel American Chinese dudes from the coasts insisting that "us Asians unite...."

Unite behind what? Your bullshit negativity spewing out whiny videos like this?
 

tier9

Woodpecker
Genghis Khan said:
Can co-sign on this 100%. Republican whites have been some of the nicest people I've ever met and extremely welcoming.

Indian Americans exasperated me to no end. I can't even explain it.

I've experienced some real ass racism in mainland Europe. I'm talking some hardcore shit like monkey sounds and everything.

America is the least racist country afaik.

Yet these clowns pretend like they're genuinely persecuted.

I even tried explaining the difference and my experiences and these people threw it back at me: "Oh, we went through that shit as well."

Like fuck you did. I lived in the US for a decade, it's nowhere near as bad as mainland Europe.

That's not to say there's zero racism in the US. But the contrast is so stupendously large.

I guess you can't pop their bubble because it would then expose them to just how privileged they really are.

Ghengis Khan. Your homeland, the second largest in the world with over a billion people in it, have boots on the ground and guns at the border with orders to shoot to kill, to ensure that absolutely zero Paki's cross into India.

And yet, you've experienced "real ass racism", no I'm sorry you've experienced the "hardcore shit", because you went on vacation to Europe and the natives made some mean jokes about you.

The audacity, of a fucking Indian whose homeland is a racial-state with guns on the border and boots on the ground to ensure that it remains so, to shit on Europeans for making a mean joke about him by calling that "real ass hardcore racism", is the absolute height of hypocrisy.

And you people (of non European descent) wonder why we are fed up with this bullshit.
 
Uprising said:
Genghis Khan said:
Can co-sign on this 100%. Republican whites have been some of the nicest people I've ever met and extremely welcoming.

Indian Americans exasperated me to no end. I can't even explain it.

I've experienced some real ass racism in mainland Europe. I'm talking some hardcore shit like monkey sounds and everything.

America is the least racist country afaik.

Yet these clowns pretend like they're genuinely persecuted.

I even tried explaining the difference and my experiences and these people threw it back at me: "Oh, we went through that shit as well."

Like fuck you did. I lived in the US for a decade, it's nowhere near as bad as mainland Europe.

That's not to say there's zero racism in the US. But the contrast is so stupendously large.

I guess you can't pop their bubble because it would then expose them to just how privileged they really are.

Ghengis Khan. Your homeland, the second largest in the world with over a billion people in it, have boots on the ground and guns at the border with orders to shoot to kill, to ensure that absolutely zero Paki's cross into India.

And yet, you've experienced "real ass racism", no I'm sorry you've experienced the "hardcore shit", because you went on vacation to Europe and the natives made some mean jokes about you.

The audacity, of a fucking Indian whose homeland is a racial-state with guns on the border and boots on the ground to ensure that it remains so, to shit on Europeans for making a mean joke about him by calling that "real ass hardcore racism", is the absolute height of hypocrisy.

And you people (of non European descent) wonder why we are fed up with this bullshit.

What has the situation in India got to do with how Indians are treated in Europe? I doubt the average European can tell the difference between an Indian and a Pakistani. Also what's wrong with India having guns on the Pakistan border? What else are they supposed to do, given that Pakistan has a shitload of Islamic terrorists who hate India? At least they're doing more than the US to guard the border. The India-Pakistan border and the US-Mexico border are both around 2,000 miles long, but India has managed to build a fence across most of it.

India is not a racial state. A lot of different races make up what is Indian. Some are very pale and look like southern Europeans, some are very dark, some look Chinese etc. India has Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Jains, Buddhists, Sikhs, a tiny number of Jews and Zoroastrians and other tribal religions - they're all considered Indian.

I grew up in the UK around a lot of Italians and they would often try to speak my mother in Italian, they thought she was one of them.

How is it bullshit if somebody is racially abused just walking down the street? That's unacceptable in my eyes.
 
BlackLeftLeft said:
I also never really grasped how much hatred for not only America, but for White folks, is present in the community. So many of my people think everything is about race. race is the defining factor in how they see the world. It's pathetic.

The violent crime is the biggest thing that gets me now. I never looked at the stats when I was younger. Once you look at the numbers and see how disproportianate things are, it's hard to blame folks if they are racist.

We clown the "Orange Man Bad" types but Black folks have been operating under the same delusion except it's "White Man Bad".

I have had a lot of black Americans confide their feelings to me because I'm not white. You're right, a lot of them dislike white people, even the very educated blacks. I remember when Obama became President, a black friend said, "We're gonna take over now".

I found it strange because black British people are not like that all, they get on very well with white people in general.
 

mr_ks

 
Banned
Some ethnonationalist types like to argue that India is an ethnostate but his could not be further from the truth. Indians consist of many ethnicities and cities are very multi-ethnic. I mean there are numerous groups that all basically marry into themselves and have different origins from around the region, and outside of it. Just because they are all 'brown' doesnt make them all the same ethnicity.

Yeah, it is a cliche, but Indian cities are multicultural, and I suppose you could say it works.
 

Pinkman

 
Banned
WalterBlack said:
I have had a lot of black Americans confide their feelings to me because I'm not white. You're right, a lot of them dislike white people, even the very educated blacks. I remember when Obama became President, a black friend said, "We're gonna take over now".

Inferiority complex. You can't hate a group you consider yourself equal to or better than.
 

tier9

Woodpecker
What has the situation in India got to do with how Indians are treated in Europe? I doubt the average European can tell the difference between an Indian and a Pakistani.

What does an Indian in Europe have to do with India and the border situation? It's simple - An Indian in Europe is still an Indian. And always will be an Indian. Therefore, Indians whether in India, Europe or the USA are still all associated with each other because you are all the same group of people.

And it's the height of fucking hypocrisy when you cry about "hardcore racist shit" or "being racially abused" when some Europeans aren't nice to you and say some mean words about you, yet your fucking people have troops on the border of your ancestral homelands with orders to shoot to kill to ensure that India's demographic makeup remains intact.

Also what's wrong with India having guns on the Pakistan border? What else are they supposed to do, given that Pakistan has a shitload of Islamic terrorists who hate India? At least they're doing more than the US to guard the border. The India-Pakistan border and the US-Mexico border are both around 2,000 miles long, but India has managed to build a fence across most of it.

India does not have boots on the ground and guns on the border to keep Paki terrorists out. They have boots on the ground and guns on the border to keep Paki's, normal everyday Paki's, out. Pakistan could send 10 million of conservative, red pilled, engineers and scientists and India would not take them in.

This bullshit that India has boots on the ground and guns on the border to "keep terrorists out" is bullshit. India wants to remain the racial state that it is today. It's the same tired excuse that Israel uses to remain an ethno state.

Sure, Paki's are Asians just like Indians are, but Pakistanis are also a (or many) different ethnicities than the particular Asian ethnicities that currently reside in India. Therefore, Pakistanis would change the complexion of the racial state that India is today just like the Eastern Europeans changed the complexion of the racial state that the United States was in the early 1900's.

I'm not saying these changes in the complexion of states are wrong or right, better or worse. All I'm saying is that India does not currently want that complexion to be changed by allowing millions of Pakistanis to flood into their country.

India is not a racial state. A lot of different races make up what is Indian. Some are very pale and look like southern Europeans, some are very dark, some look Chinese etc. India has Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Jains, Buddhists, Sikhs, a tiny number of Jews and Zoroastrians and other tribal religions - they're all considered Indian.

I grew up in the UK around a lot of Italians and they would often try to speak my mother in Italian, they thought she was one of them.

Bullshit. You don't know the difference between a race and an ethnicity, Walter Black.

There are 3 main races in the world: white, black and Asian.

Ethnicities are subgroups of the 3 main racial groups. For whites that would mean Germans, Frenchmen, Poles, ext. For blacks that would mean Tutsis, Hutus, ext. I don't know the ethnicities in India, though I know there are a lot of them in that country. But make no mistake about it. Indians are Asians. Yes, there are light skinned Asians in India and in Central Asia. But they are still Asians.

Indians will never be white. Indians will never be black. Indians will always be Asians. Before someone wants to tell me about the invasions of Alexander The Great, European recessive genes have long since been wiped out by the dominant Asian Indian genes.

How is it bullshit if somebody is racially abused just walking down the street? That's unacceptable in my eyes.

So here we have, another Indian who grew up in The West, who thinks it's unacceptable for Europeans to say mean things about them........No wait, I'm sorry, who thinks it's unacceptable for Europeans to racially abuse them by calling them mean words, yet he thinks it's ok for his people (the people of India) to maintain a racial state with shoot to kill orders at the border to keep the Paki's out.
 
Uprising said:
What has the situation in India got to do with how Indians are treated in Europe? I doubt the average European can tell the difference between an Indian and a Pakistani.

Because, Indians are not letting Europeans migrate en masse and build up their demographics in India equal to that of the native populations, while at the same time allowing Europeans to take over positions of power in business, politics and culture. Indians do however, flood into Europe (the UK) by the millions and are taking over positions of power in business, politics, culture and building their demographics.

It's a one way street. Europeans owe Indians nothing, not even politeness. What does an Indian in Europe have to do with India and the border situation? It's simple - An Indian in Europe is still an Indian. And always will be an Indian. Therefore, Indians whether in India, Europe or the USA are still all associated with each other because you are all the same group of people.

You are Indian WalterBlack. You can have kids in England. You can have grandkids in England. And they will still be Indian. They will never be English or British. That is a fact. And I don't say that out of hate either. I could never be Indian and neither could my kids or my grandkids if I had children with a woman of European descent in the country of India. These are biological facts.

It's also a fact WalterBlack, that you can go back to India and still be around actual Indian people. Your grandchlidren will one day be able to go back to India and be around actual Indian people. I can't go back to my ancestral European country because people like you and others from the third world are making the people of my ancestral homelands minorities, where they have lived for thousands upon thousands of years. Again, this isn't said out of hate, but these are the facts of the world that we live in.

Also what's wrong with India having guns on the Pakistan border? What else are they supposed to do, given that Pakistan has a shitload of Islamic terrorists who hate India? At least they're doing more than the US to guard the border. The India-Pakistan border and the US-Mexico border are both around 2,000 miles long, but India has managed to build a fence across most of it.

India does not have boots on the ground and guns on the border to keep Paki terrorists out. They have boots on the ground and guns on the border to keep Paki's, normal everyday Paki's, out. Pakistan could send 10 million of conservative, red pilled, engineers and scientists and India would not take them in.

This bullshit that India has boots on the ground and guns on the border to "keep terrorists out" is bullshit. India wants to remain the racial state that it is today. It's the same tired excuse that Israel uses to remain an ethno state. Sure, Paki's are Asians just like Indians are, but Pakistanis are also a (or many) different ethnicities than the particular Asian ethnicities that currently reside in India. Therefore, Pakistanis would change the complexion of the racial state that India is today just like the Eastern Europeans changed the complexion of the racial state that the United States was in the early 1900's.

I'm not saying these changes in the complexion of states are wrong or right, better or worse. All I'm saying is that India does not currently want that complexion to be changed by allowing millions of Pakistanis to flood into their country.

India is not a racial state. A lot of different races make up what is Indian. Some are very pale and look like southern Europeans, some are very dark, some look Chinese etc. India has Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Jains, Buddhists, Sikhs, a tiny number of Jews and Zoroastrians and other tribal religions - they're all considered Indian.

I grew up in the UK around a lot of Italians and they would often try to speak my mother in Italian, they thought she was one of them.

Bullshit. You don't know the difference between a race and an ethnicity, Walter Black.

There are 3 main races in the world: white, black and Asian.

Ethnicities are subgroups of the 3 main racial groups. For whites that would mean Germans, Frenchmen, Poles, ext. For blacks that would mean Tutsis, Hutus, ext. I don't know the ethnicities in India, though I know there are a lot of them in that country. But make no mistake about it. Indians are Asians. Yes, there are light skinned Asians in India and in Central Asia. But they are still Asians.

Indians will never be white. Indians will never be black. Indians will always be Asians. Before someone wants to tell me about the invasions of Alexander The Great, European recessive genes have long since been wiped out by the dominant Asian Indian genes.

How is it bullshit if somebody is racially abused just walking down the street? That's unacceptable in my eyes.

So here we have, another Indian who grew up in The West, who thinks it's unacceptable for Europeans to say mean things about them........No wait, I'm sorry, who thinks it's unacceptable for Europeans to racially abuse them by calling them mean words, yet he thinks it's ok for his people (the people of India) to maintain a racial state with shoot to kill orders at the border to keep the Paki's out.

Once again, Indians and other non-whites wonder why Europeans and our diaspora are tired of this shit.

The Indians were asked to come to the UK by the government. I don't see millions of Europeans trying to get into India - how do you know India doesn't let Europeans in? How do you know millions are trying?

What do the actions of the Indian government have to do with me? I've never lived there.

Are you going to lecture somebody who was born and raised in UK on who is British?

I don't think it's acceptable for anybody of any race to get shitted on because of their race. Are you OK with racism?

If there's only blacks, whites and Asians, then how are Chinese and Indians categorised? Are you implying that they are the same race?
 

tier9

Woodpecker
WalterBlack said:
The Indians were asked to come to the UK by the government. I don't see millions of Europeans trying to get into India - how do you know India doesn't let Europeans in? How do you know millions are trying?

What do the actions of the Indian government have to do with me? I've never lived there.

Are you going to lecture somebody who was born and raised in UK on who is British?

I don't think it's acceptable for anybody of any race to get shitted on because of their race. Are you OK with racism?

If there's only blacks, whites and Asians, then how are Chinese and Indians categorised? Are you implying that they are the same race?

India has the 2nd largest country in the world, over a billion people. India is not letting in Europeans proportionate to what certain European countries like England are doing.

I already told you. The actions of the Indian government have to do with you because you are Indian.

Yes, I am going to lecture somebody of non-European descent who was born and raised in the UK, and I will tell them who is British and who is not. You are not British WalterBlack and you never will be.

Chinese and Indians are both racially Asian, yes, they are the same race.

"Racism" doesn't exist and is a made up word to prevent Europeans and people of European descent from organizing and looking out for our own groups interests, just like every other group in The West is freely and openly allowed to do.

Go find me where the word "racist" or "racism" appears in ancient texts or in any kind of vernacular before the 1900's. You won't. It doesn't exist.
 
Uprising said:
WalterBlack said:
The Indians were asked to come to the UK by the government. I don't see millions of Europeans trying to get into India - how do you know India doesn't let Europeans in? How do you know millions are trying?

What do the actions of the Indian government have to do with me? I've never lived there.

Are you going to lecture somebody who was born and raised in UK on who is British?

I don't think it's acceptable for anybody of any race to get shitted on because of their race. Are you OK with racism?

If there's only blacks, whites and Asians, then how are Chinese and Indians categorised? Are you implying that they are the same race?

India has the 2nd largest country in the world, over a billion people. India is not letting in Europeans proportionate to what certain European countries like England are doing.

I already told you. The actions of the Indian government have to do with you because you are Indian.

Yes, I am going to lecture somebody of non-European descent who was born and raised in the UK, and I will tell them who is British and who is not. You are not British WalterBlack and you never will be.

Chinese and Indians are both racially Asian, yes, they are the same race.


"Racism" doesn't exist and is a made up word to prevent Europeans and people of European descent from organizing and looking out for our own groups interests, just like every other group in The West is freely and openly allowed to do.

Go find me where the word "racist" or "racism" appears in ancient texts or in any kind of vernacular before the 1900's. You won't. It doesn't exist.

OK. These couples look like they're from the same race:

[img=682x455]https://prologueweddings.com/wp-con...dding-photography-alisha-ashraf-012.jpg[/img]

[img=682x455]https://prologueweddings.com/wp-con...dding-photography-alisha-ashraf-002.jpg[/img]

[img=768x512]https://www.rebeccachan.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/0204-CS5_0330-1024x682.jpg[/img]
 

tier9

Woodpecker
WalterBlack said:

Yes. They are all Asian. Different ethnicities, same race. Just like someone from Sicily in Italy and a Swede are the same race, white.

I'm starting to think a big part of you doesn't want to be called Asian because in India you may have a lighter complexion and you might be considered "white" there, who knows. I just know that you're not European and you never will be WalterBlack.

You're race is Asian. Your ethnicity is whatever ethnic group in India you come from. Your nationality is The United Kingdom.

No matter how you "feel", nothing will ever change that and most importantly, it's ok to be all of the things that you are.

I'm assuming you consider yourself British, WalterBlack, since you asked me if a "non-British person is going to tell someone who was born and raised in the UK if they were British or not".

If you're British, WalterBlack, then England could be filled with people exactly and only like you, and it would still be British. Because you are British. Right Walter? Right?
 
Uprising said:
Yes. They are all Asian. Different ethnicities, same race. Just like someone from Sicily in Italy and a Swede are the same race, white.

I'm starting to think a big part of you doesn't want to be called Asian because in India you may have a lighter complexion and you might be considered "white" there, who knows. I just know that you're not European and you never will be WalterBlack.

You're race is Asian. Your ethnicity is whatever ethnic group in India you come from. Your nationality is The United Kingdom.

No matter how you "feel", nothing will ever change that and most importantly, it's ok to be all of the things that you are.

I'm assuming you consider yourself British, WalterBlack, since you asked me if a "non-British person is going to tell someone who was born and raised in the UK if they were British or not".

If you're British, WalterBlack, then England could be filled with people exactly and only like you, and it would still be British. Because you are British. Right Walter? Right?

"Asian" means different things in different countries - in the UK it means South Asia (Indian subcontinent), in the US it means East and SE Asia (China, Japan, Korea etc).

I've always referred to myself as Asian in UK. A British Chinese would call themselves Oriental.
 

tier9

Woodpecker
WalterBlack said:
"Asian" means different things in different countries - in the UK it means South Asia (Indian subcontinent), in the US it means East and SE Asia (China, Japan, Korea etc).

I've always referred to myself as Asian in UK. A British Chinese would call themselves Oriental.

Ok. I hope I didn't come off in a hateful way in my posts. That wasn't my intention.

My main intention in my posts were to point out that somebody making fun of somebody else is not "hardcore racism". I don't like the word racist or racism for reasons I mentioned earlier, but for people who use the word, however you define it, surely somebody making fun of you when you travel in their country is not "hardcore".

That paints you in a light where you're being over dramatic, no different than the American SJW Indians who you (WalterBlack) and GhengisKhan mentioned earlier in this thread.

Lastly, it does upset me that immigration is a one way street and only goes into The West. I do wish non-European immigrants who live in Europe or the Anglosphere would either

A. make it a point to say that England should remain British or Germany should remain German or

B. Promote massive European immigration into their ancestral homelands (only a generation or two removed) so that this is a two way street worldwide, and not a one way street.

Thanks for the good conversation WalterBlack, you seem like a cool guy and I'm glad you're on the forum even if we disagree on some issues.
 

Transsimian

Ostrich
Gold Member
WalterBlack said:
I have had a lot of black Americans confide their feelings to me because I'm not white. You're right, a lot of them dislike white people, even the very educated blacks. I remember when Obama became President, a black friend said, "We're gonna take over now".

I found it strange because black British people are not like that all, they get on very well with white people in general.
Black Americans didn't choose to be American, but Black British chose to move from their tropical countries to dreary Britain out of admiration for British culture and values.

One possible factor in the relative lack of integrationof Pakistani immigrant communities when compared to Indians or AfroCarribeans is that they disproportionately came from the areas flooded by the Mirpur dam, and thus it wasn't for love of the country.

That, and from what I've gathered from this forum, it is politically convenient for the establishment to focus Black anger on working class Whites in America.

WalterBlack said:
I grew up in the UK around a lot of Italians and they would often try to speak my mother in Italian, they thought she was one of them.
Rossi confirmed
 

beta_plus

Pelican
Don't Bang My Ethnic Group

Well, I'm half Danish, so if Danes are an ethnic group:

dontbangdenmark.jpg


Roosh did a great job writing it.

Danish women are similar to Ontario women. They possess the awful combination of acting as scolds with a breathtaking sexual and financial/welfare state/make-men-pay-for-kids-that-they-didn't-father sense of entitlement.

Though, even I will admit that the average Danish woman is significantly more physically attractive than the the average Ontario woman. Admittedly, it's a really low bar to clear.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Agnostic
Gold Member
I'm not Indian, but I really dislike Indians(not all, just the average fobby IRT and the IRT females that suffer from princess Jasmine syndrome).
 
Pinkman said:
WalterBlack said:
I have had a lot of black Americans confide their feelings to me because I'm not white. You're right, a lot of them dislike white people, even the very educated blacks. I remember when Obama became President, a black friend said, "We're gonna take over now".

Inferiority complex. You can't hate a group you consider yourself equal to or better than.

American Blacks are just like the Palestinians. A culture increasingly incapable of progress and introspection because they are too busy blaming another race and culture for all their problems.
 
Transsimian said:
WalterBlack said:
I have had a lot of black Americans confide their feelings to me because I'm not white. You're right, a lot of them dislike white people, even the very educated blacks. I remember when Obama became President, a black friend said, "We're gonna take over now".

I found it strange because black British people are not like that all, they get on very well with white people in general.
Black Americans didn't choose to be American, but Black British chose to move from their tropical countries to dreary Britain out of admiration for British culture and values.

I doubt young black children carry some innate resentment because their ancestors were shipped here on slave boats. I've met plenty of blacks that are fine citizens, the biggest problem with their larger culture is the bullshit victim narrative and the ensuing excuses they constantly make to defend and even celebrate their worst actors. Too many of them grow up assuming they have no agency to control their destiny. Pregnant baby mommas, Police arresting them for drug dealing, getting shot because "dey dis-respek me"... Yea all white people's fault.
 
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