Anyone else feel general dislike toward members of your own ethnic group?

Laner

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General Stalin said:
I don't understand why we call Native Americans "Indians."

It's not even like it's a slang term. It's a politically correct and legally accepted term for them that is on official documentation. We call them "Native American Indians" when they are not Indians. They are not from India. They have nothing to do with the country.



I love being white. I also love being American. I'd say I lucked out in life.

I can see the reason for this thread.

Many racial and ethnic groups have broad stereotypes tied to them that will certainly create a predisposed stigma to anyone of that group. This sort of handicaps someone from that group in a given social situation. It's something that needs to be overcame that other people may not have to deal with.

That said, I think it's very important to NOT piss and moan about it and dwell on it as you can't change who you are at a genetic level. If you're Indian, African, SE Asian, South American, Middle Eastern, European, etc. Thats what you are and you need to own it and live your life to the fullest no matter your skin color or upbringing.


I agree. What I wrote about Indians ties into the original questions. What is my general dislike toward them. I was raised white Anglo-saxon through my mother, but still had a lot of contact with my dad's family who are Indian. We raised two of my cousins during a brutal (but sadly common) time in my Aunts life. Alcohol, drugs, domestic beatings, etc. So when I see my cousins falling for more government vote buying it reminds me of the fatal weakness of the First Nations people. I love them to the point of frustration. I spend time helping the young men, volunteering time into breaking this cycle.

I was raised by a father who went through life not judging people by their skin color but by how they held themselves. He spent too much time in his youth targeted by police and being denied easy entrance into business for him to do the same when he eventually had a position to do so. This was why he was so successful for his company when he was sent to West Africa for 15 years. The Africans that pissed and moaned about fairness and skin color were skidded right fast.
 

JWLZG

 
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Genghis Khan said:
Yes, I'm Indian and I live in the US. I strongly dislike Indian Americans. Not only do we have muslim apologists like Aziz Ansari, Aasif Mandvi and Hassan Minhaj, we also have the worst SJWs with such notables as Mindy Kaling.

Those names sound pretty Muslim themselves. Don't Indian Muslims and Hindus dislike each other? It's a bit much too much, it seems, to throw an entire nationality under the bus under the guise that "they're all the same". :tard:
 

TravelerKai

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JWLZG said:
Genghis Khan said:
Yes, I'm Indian and I live in the US. I strongly dislike Indian Americans. Not only do we have muslim apologists like Aziz Ansari, Aasif Mandvi and Hassan Minhaj, we also have the worst SJWs with such notables as Mindy Kaling.

Those names sound pretty Muslim themselves. Don't Indian Muslims and Hindus dislike each other? It's a bit much too much, it seems, to throw an entire nationality under the bus under the guise that "they're all the same". :tard:

Aziz is terrible. Does anyone know if there are any Indian comedians out there that are not SJW faggots? Or is that something of a unicorn in terms of existence?
 

Brother Abdul Majeed

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I realize that "Canadian" isn't an ethnic group, but I have developed a growing dislike for the majority of Canadians. Even conservative Canadians are far too liberal. We are a pathetic bunch of tossers, we expect the government to do everything for us and we never complain when the government or corporations bend us over and screw us up the ass. Most Canadian men are noodle armed wimps and we have the most idiotic prime minister in the world. I hate this place and the people in it.
 

HOD

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TravelerKai said:
JWLZG said:
Genghis Khan said:
Yes, I'm Indian and I live in the US. I strongly dislike Indian Americans. Not only do we have muslim apologists like Aziz Ansari, Aasif Mandvi and Hassan Minhaj, we also have the worst SJWs with such notables as Mindy Kaling.

Those names sound pretty Muslim themselves. Don't Indian Muslims and Hindus dislike each other? It's a bit much too much, it seems, to throw an entire nationality under the bus under the guise that "they're all the same". :tard:

Aziz is terrible. Does anyone know if there are any Indian comedians out there that are not SJW faggots? Or is that something of a unicorn in terms of existence?

Russell Peter is kool, and quite a player.
 

weambulance

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I'm not sure if that was a serious thought but we call Native Americans "Indians" because the first people to get to the New World thought it was the Indies (aka East Indies), and thus, the people there were called Indians. That's what Christopher Columbus was trying to do, he was trying to get to the Indies without sailing around Africa. At least, that's what I was taught in school, and it makes sense. That's why the Caribbean islands were known as the West Indies.

I've known a number of American Indians and they generally did not give a shit about the term "Native American". That's a PC invention. I either refer to them as Indians or by their tribe, if I know what it is.

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Anyway, I'm mostly German-Irish by blood but I've never identified as anything but American. The fact that I have close-by-blood relatives in Ireland is basically just neat trivia, I've never met them. No clue about any German relatives, I'm not even sure when the German side of my family came here, 5+ generations ago for sure. I don't have any cultural heritage from any of the major ethnicities in my background. So... No, I don't really have any particular feelings, positive or negative, about my ethnic brethren.

As far as American whites, well, they come in all sorts. Some are really cool, some are complete fucktards. Can't see that there's any real pattern, so I don't have any particular animosity toward them either. It's only in recent years that I've started to identify as white particularly, and that's been a response to the rise of identity politics practiced by other groups, so I'm not all "white pride" either.
 

Ghost Tiger

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Brother Abdul Majeed said:
I realize that "Canadian" isn't an ethnic group, but I have developed a growing dislike for the majority of Canadians. Even conservative Canadians are far too liberal. We are a pathetic bunch of tossers, we expect the government to do everything for us and we never complain when the government or corporations bend us over and screw us up the ass. Most Canadian men are noodle armed wimps and we have the most idiotic prime minister in the world. I hate this place and the people in it.

Thank you for writing that. We deserve your hatred. We will continue to deserve it unless and until we put some steel in our spines, sober up, and stand up.
 

Fortis

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I think the number 1 thing holding back many Asians is their strong loyalty to family. I see it all the time in China. Sometimes your rice farmer grandma DOESN'T know what's best for you. This isn't to be down on Asians, because many of them are breaking free of that mindset, but I see it every day. Dad believes bullshit passed onto him from grandad and so and so forth and you have a seemingly unbreakable chain of betatude strangling young Asian guys in a way that doesn't happen with Western dudes. This isn't something I hate about asian culture and I really have no business talking about asian problems, but it's just an observation of mine after a year and some change in China.

While this forum does speak a lot about family, sometimes it's worth noting that families can also be the epicenter of really stupid and caustic ideas.
 

General Stalin

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weambulance said:
I'm not sure if that was a serious thought but we call Native Americans "Indians" because the first people to get to the New World thought it was the Indies (aka East Indies), and thus, the people there were called Indians. That's what Christopher Columbus was trying to do, he was trying to get to the Indies without sailing around Africa. At least, that's what I was taught in school, and it makes sense. That's why the Caribbean islands were known as the West Indies.

I've known a number of American Indians and they generally did not give a shit about the term "Native American". That's a PC invention. I either refer to them as Indians or by their tribe, if I know what it is.

But it was NOT the East Indies. Just like in that Louis CK bit - the explorers learned soon that they were not anywhere near Asia, yet we still mis-labeled the indigenous people as "Indians."

It's no different than calling Asian people European. It makes no sense but we still call them that. It's just silly.
 
HOD said:
TravelerKai said:
JWLZG said:
Genghis Khan said:
Yes, I'm Indian and I live in the US. I strongly dislike Indian Americans. Not only do we have muslim apologists like Aziz Ansari, Aasif Mandvi and Hassan Minhaj, we also have the worst SJWs with such notables as Mindy Kaling.

Those names sound pretty Muslim themselves. Don't Indian Muslims and Hindus dislike each other? It's a bit much too much, it seems, to throw an entire nationality under the bus under the guise that "they're all the same". :tard:

Aziz is terrible. Does anyone know if there are any Indian comedians out there that are not SJW faggots? Or is that something of a unicorn in terms of existence?

Russell Peter is kool, and quite a player.




 

JWLZG

 
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Dalaran1991 said:
I'm pretty fond of my family and other Viet friends, but I have a general disgust toward the Vietnamese people, and Asians as a whole. Savages (some may called alphas?), uneducated, loud, unrefined and generally very short-sighted. There are more people dying by traffic accidents every week than all the terror attacks combined. That truck who killed 70+ people in France? Been there, seen it every month going to school. I still remember the guts and bloods spilled all over the road, and the screaming victims with their legs chewed up under the wreckage. And nobody would help because they are afraid of being implicated. I was 13.

Many restaurants and food shops are polluted and used ingredients from places you would have to cover your nose if you walk there. People would happily sell cancer to others to make a living.

You think we dont have our own refugees crisis? Its just in a different form.


Haven't been able to jump onto RVF, so Dalaran beat me to it.

I hate to say that my thoughts echo his by and large. Those that were brought up in the West are much more bearable, but that's exactly proves my point.

We have a massive FOB community from all over Asia here in my city, in Australia, they are mostly split between here and Sydney.

They embody basically everything I'm ashamed about my race (Chinese specifically, Indo-Chinese to a lesser extent — sorry Dalaran) — rude, tacky dress sense, pathetic posture/bearing, unhygienic, loud, uncouth, misogynistic. :rant: :nuts:

Now, as a general rule of thumb, I'd say there isn't generally any racism in this country — with exceptions of course. Australians by and large don't have strong opinions about Asians, maybe mixed feelings. However, the appearance of these Asians, bringing their behaviour from the mother country, give a terrible impression for the 5% or so of us.

I recently read a novel about the Vietnam War wherein the corruption of the ARVN generals and their government led to an unnecessary squandering of their troops in the field, which indirectly led to their downfall. The result was the prejudice that American soldiers had of the South Vietnamese men being cowards and their women, whores. I know that such decadence and corruption can be found around the world, but this sort of behaviour that leads to the little people being run roughshod over seems to be more endemic in a lot of Asian cultures.

It's not just the FOBs, though. Even for those raised in the West (and my family was pretty Western already) have largely been brought up with traits that simply aren't seen as desired here — introversion, lacking confidence and assertion are but a few things that come to mind. Ones that definitely affected me, and which I later had to overcome on my own volition.

There's definitely a strain of clannishness among my people. Yes, there's a lot of talk, both here and the wider media, that East and South-East Asians assimilate into their adopted countries better than Middle Easterners and those of Muslim societies. For the most part, that is true. Even so, there is tendency for them to be rather tight-knit in the way they keep society. So much so that if they're seen as an "other", they have no-one else to blame. Really, I think my people have an onus to do their bit in terms of complaints about a "bamboo ceiling"

I have read how a few of our resident China experts have voiced exactly such opinions about her people, to the extent that I'd feel uneasy making contact with them for fear of being seen as a lesser form of life. :-/

I hate to bring up the elephant in the room, but there has been enough of a strain of, dare I say it, white apologia, running through this forum, that sentiments expressed in this thread, especially from non-white members, may be welcomed with glee.
On the other hand — lest I be taken as some sort of yellow Uncle Tom — I acknowledge that some members here do advocate owning your identity. Your background is part of who you are.

Beyond being aware of my heritage and language, I should ask: take pride in what? Your ethnicity is mostly periphery to your identity; it gives it a physical definition, but not much more. Yes, in spite of everything that I've said, I know that my race is known for many great things. But to subsume them as part of your own identity is disingenuous, an assumption of undue credit. I find it silly to take that sort of due credit for merits that you weren't responsible for; insofar as it's just as silly to be compelled to take responsibility for misdeeds of your race's forebears that you personally weren't responsible for.

It's true that I find it easier to be driven to such beliefs because I was pretty whitewashed to begin with. Or it could be a streak of childishness within me, maybe ingratitude. The OP definitely hit an idea that I'd been nursing, though.
 

weambulance

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General Stalin said:
weambulance said:
I'm not sure if that was a serious thought but we call Native Americans "Indians" because the first people to get to the New World thought it was the Indies (aka East Indies), and thus, the people there were called Indians. That's what Christopher Columbus was trying to do, he was trying to get to the Indies without sailing around Africa. At least, that's what I was taught in school, and it makes sense. That's why the Caribbean islands were known as the West Indies.

I've known a number of American Indians and they generally did not give a shit about the term "Native American". That's a PC invention. I either refer to them as Indians or by their tribe, if I know what it is.

But it was NOT the East Indies. Just like in that Louis CK bit - the explorers learned soon that they were not anywhere near Asia, yet we still mis-labeled the indigenous people as "Indians."

It's no different than calling Asian people European. It makes no sense but we still call them that. It's just silly.

It's silly for you, now, but that's out of historical context.

Why do we call America America? Because Amerigo Vespucci came along on Columbus's coattails (10 years later, no less) and wrote a few letters back home. Seems like a pretty silly reason to name two whole continents after the guy, all things considered. It should be North and South Columbia.

Lots of stuff like that is silly. I refuse to call suppressors "silencers" because they're not remotely silent, but that's what Maxim called them when he invented them so it's the common name.

What it boils down to is we call Indians Indians because, well, that's the term. Doesn't have to make sense, with five hundred years of weight behind it.
 

kaotic

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Cr33pin said:
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No... there are fuck ups in every race and there are savvy people in every race.
Don't let you race define who you are as a person.

Fixed it for you:

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Thrill Jackson

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Geomann180 said:
It seems to me this is a generational thing more than an ethnicity thing. Ghengis Khan and Cobra mention older, hard-working generations favorably. I imagine the OP thinks highly of his Viking ancestors.

It just seems to me, that the generation born from 1994ish-2016 is the most faggoty, weak, limp-dicked, low-impulse control, overweight generation ever.

But it's sad in a way.

Faggotry is all they know.

G

I feel the same way. It's crazy that my generation has by far more resources to succeed than any other generation yet we are the most entitled, laziest generation as well.
 

TravelerKai

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Fortis said:
I think the number 1 thing holding back many Asians is their strong loyalty to family. I see it all the time in China. Sometimes your rice farmer grandma DOESN'T know what's best for you. This isn't to be down on Asians, because many of them are breaking free of that mindset, but I see it every day. Dad believes bullshit passed onto him from grandad and so and so forth and you have a seemingly unbreakable chain of betatude strangling young Asian guys in a way that doesn't happen with Western dudes. This isn't something I hate about asian culture and I really have no business talking about asian problems, but it's just an observation of mine after a year and some change in China.

While this forum does speak a lot about family, sometimes it's worth noting that families can also be the epicenter of really stupid and caustic ideas.

In my opinion it's actually a lack of leadership, not loyalty to family. Loyalty in itself is not a bad thing. What makes people think it is, is when bad decisions are made on behalf of loyalty, without taking any leadership into account.

I gave an example a while back about a old college buddy of mine that took control of his dad's crabbing business and kicked his dad and brother out of it, all because he took leadership and transformed it with fresh ideas. I lost count of all the times he would be crying and pissed off about how his family was shitting on him our first two years in school. He sucked it up and stepped up. Got a business degree with accounting, became fluent in Spanish, and took it over.

Another one was disavowed by his father because he joined the military and refused to do what he was told. Now they have an amazing relationship and he runs businesses. The military helped him get some discipline that he knew he lacked. HE father did not agree, but even if you disagree, you need to act with conviction and have a plan. He had a plan and it worked out in due time.

Here is the thing about leadership. You cannot effectively lead others, if you are unwilling to serve others first. Sacrificing and serving your family helps to build the foundation for that. Family is your first company. You can run it into the ground, or learn how to work with others, serve them to gain respect, then lead the family into the future. It translates outside the house and will serve you well.

As a young man you have to eventually brush off petty feelings about family and move forward and start making attempts to guide them, because nothing is worse than selfishly disappearing for many years, only to come back when they cannot even take care of themselves. Do you expect them to trust you past a stranger at that point?

It's better to maintain the trust first, then work from within the system, and transform it into what you want it to look like. Building a solid family system is not always buildable overnight. For every family that pulls up in one generation, there are many that took 3-5. Look at Trump's family. You think that is all him? No. Either his grandfather set the tone or someone way earlier than him first. Look at Romney's family. Many Jewish ones, Orthodox and Non-Orthodox. Someone set the tone a long time ago so that no one has to try to overhaul the whole family.

Chinese are no different. Most had to start over after the 70s from scratch, while some did not. My wife's great grandmother came from a successful family before the 70s and it followed the family regardless of the political effects. Her mother's side, even more so, they were doctors, etc.
 

TornadoByProxy

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weambulance said:
Why do we call America America? Because Amerigo Vespucci came along on Columbus's coattails (10 years later, no less) and wrote a few letters back home. Seems like a pretty silly reason to name two whole continents after the guy, all things considered. It should be North and South Columbia.

By your logic, it should be North and South Christopher.
 

Laner

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WalterBlack said:
HOD said:
TravelerKai said:
JWLZG said:
Genghis Khan said:
Yes, I'm Indian and I live in the US. I strongly dislike Indian Americans. Not only do we have muslim apologists like Aziz Ansari, Aasif Mandvi and Hassan Minhaj, we also have the worst SJWs with such notables as Mindy Kaling.

Those names sound pretty Muslim themselves. Don't Indian Muslims and Hindus dislike each other? It's a bit much too much, it seems, to throw an entire nationality under the bus under the guise that "they're all the same". :tard:

Aziz is terrible. Does anyone know if there are any Indian comedians out there that are not SJW faggots? Or is that something of a unicorn in terms of existence?

Russell Peter is kool, and quite a player.






I remember seeing him live, and the whole crowd sat on the edge of their seats begging him to make fun of their culture.

Whole sections of the place would roar when he would start making fun of them, and others sat dejected. Some Japanese chicks I was with were so disappointed, "Why he never make fun of Japanese?"

Fun show.
 

weambulance

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TornadoByProxy said:
weambulance said:
Why do we call America America? Because Amerigo Vespucci came along on Columbus's coattails (10 years later, no less) and wrote a few letters back home. Seems like a pretty silly reason to name two whole continents after the guy, all things considered. It should be North and South Columbia.

By your logic, it should be North and South Christopher.

Sort of.

America derives from Americus, which is the Latin version of Amerigo. But there's no good Latin analog for Christopher, because Christopher has Greek origins (Christofóros). North and South Christo, maybe? That would work well enough with the Spanish version of Christopher Columbus, which is Cristóbal Colón.

I like Columbia instead because if you're going to refer to a Westerner by a single name, it's going to be the surname, even if the person is incredibly famous. Using Amerigo Vespucci's first name root doesn't even make sense in the context of Latin naming conventions, but it is what it is. I really doubt he was known as simply "Amerigo" at the time; maybe they just didn't like his last name.
 
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