Anyone else totally without ambition?

[A War You Cannot Win]

After four years of the military I feel the same way. Going to middle eastern shitholes wearing an obscene amount of gear and going on patrols or standing post day in and day out has sufficiently sated my need for adventure and conquest. I don't want some horrific McMansion in a wasteland of a suburb. I'm fine with driving a rusted 87 Chevy Blazer with beer cans littered around the backseat floor. I would rather chemically sterilize myself than marry an American woman and attempt to raise a functional family with her. I'm fine with being a school janitor or a grave digger or a logger or whatever the fuck when I get out. The expected route men are supposed to take - long hours at the office or backbreaking labor to support an overgrown child who produces more children to use as a weapon against you while sexually and financially manipulating you is for the birds.

Like MikeCF, I only ambitious when it comes to my hobbies

-I strive to be one of the strongest P4P guys in the weight room.

-I enjoy seeing how far I can run. Before I fucked my back I used to run 2-3 cities over then call my Mom or my buddy to pick me up because I ran too far like Forrest Gump.

-I stay away from video games, especially online ones because I have to be considered among the 'elite' of the community. It all started with competitive Marvel vs Capcom 2 tournaments.

-When I get interested in an author or a series of books I have to read everything and won't stop before moving on.

 

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

My country is a shithole, so I need a lot of ambition if I want to just survive. How about that?

 

[Bill]

I am 40 and living a minimalist lifestyle and don´t work at all. It was only possible because I didn´t invest much money and energy in women.

I love to have a life where I don´t have to work and feeling like a slave. Now I am doing mostly things what I like . I have some ambition but I surpress it with my minimalist philosophy. Sometimes it´s simply enough. Somewhere there should be a limit.

 

[thegmanifesto]

I am 40 and living a minimalist lifestyle and don´t work at all. It was only possible because I didn´t invest much money and energy in women.

I love to have a life where I don´t have to work and feeling like a slave. Now I am doing mostly things what I like . I have some ambition but I surpress it with my minimalist philosophy. Sometimes it´s simply enough. Somewhere there should be a limit.

I think a lot of us would be interested in a Data Sheet on how exactly you pull this off ie budget, location, city, travel, food, activities, luxuries etc.

-I strive to be one of the strongest P4P guys in the weight room.

For some reason this doesn't sound right.

The first time I read it I thought you were paying guys in your weight room to swoop them.

I am only just starting to get used to all these acronyms.

 

[bacan]

Just make sure you are doing a good job of predicting your future happiness.

I would hate for you to one day regret your choices and feel like your life has been a failure.

 

[CJ_W]

I am totally devoid of ambition. I have a low level, low skilled job - and would happily do it until the day I die. I will only ever seek a pormotion when I absolutely need more cash.

Anyone else here have literally zero ambition? And - for the Americans - is such an attitude particularfly rare over there?

I have being counting the days to my retirement since the day I started work.

I am not complaining - or worried by my lack of ambition. But - I just wanted to see if any others were like this since most of the conversations here are headed in the exact opposite direction (ie how to be more driven and more successful).

Of course - my big passion is reading and inventing magic tricks. So - I always feel I can be doing something more fun than work. And I always imagine that those most driven at work - are the same people who find it hard to enjoy their lives outside of work. But I may be wrong there. It is just that is how it is with my brother and my dad - who both seem unable to switch off from being 'busy' all the time.

Why not just make a bunch of awesome magic tricks, and perform them somewhere? eventually you'd be able to get money for that and make that you source of income.

 

[arafat scarf]

i'm happy working a menial job, goofing around, watching documentaries, studying spanish, cooking, maintaining a good attitude, keeping a decent body and fucking 6's who don't make me work.

the cost of "success" is too high for me.

 

[Vitriol]

I was really ambitious and busy all the time when I was in college and professional school, but that burns you out after awhile and you tend to miss out on a lot of the enjoyment in life. I don't see how anyone can go balls to the wall for years on end unless you're a robot.

Right now the job I have requires pretty much the bare minimum amount of time to be considered full time, but it pays me well enough that I have the money to do all the things I enjoy.

Could I bust my ass for an extra 10 or 20k a year? Sure, but when the only non-essential expenses I have are things like beer or going to concerts, why bother? I'll leave the workaholic mentality to guys that want mortgages and care about what kind of car they drive.

 

[G Trooper]

It's interesting how some people lack ambition while others are extremely driven. I became driven when I moved out on my own at 23 and was done being sheltered and coddled by my parents. I found out that the freedom of living on your own and making your own money to support yourself is 100x better than being a loser living in your parents basement.

My brother is the total opposite. He just doesn't care at all, he's broke as a joke and bangs 5's and 6's constantly. I absolutely cringe at the photos of chicks that he texts me. Maybe some have it and some don't, but I just wanna fuck 8's, 9's, and 10's and as many as possible until I'm 70.

 

[numanist]

I used to be super ambitious, but I've begun to lose my ambition. It's hard to be ambitious when the world is going to pot. The world is becoming less and less meritocratic and more backwards, if you know what I mean: the stupid dregs of society are rewarded by the government for having children without any compunction of raising them. Overall, our society reflects this anti-social behavior: celebritwits like Kim Kartrashian and Paris Hilton are awarded huge sums of money for acting like complete divas and room-temperature iq idiots. I don't know about you, but who wants to participate in this circus? I certainly don't; and the last thing I want to do is prop up a society that antithetical to nature, in which the strongest specimen survives and reproduces.

 

[WanderingSoul]

It's interesting how some people lack ambition while others are extremely driven. I became driven when I moved out on my own at 23 and was done being sheltered and coddled by my parents. I found out that the freedom of living on your own and making your own money to support yourself is 100x better than being a loser living in your parents basement.

My brother is the total opposite. He just doesn't care at all, he's broke as a joke and bangs 5's and 6's constantly. I absolutely cringe at the photos of chicks that he texts me. Maybe some have it and some don't, but I just wanna fuck 8's, 9's, and 10's and as many as possible until I'm 70.

You cringe at the sight of a 6, and bang only 8, 9 and 10's?

That's impressive.

 

[Bill]

I am 40 and living a minimalist lifestyle and don´t work at all. It was only possible because I didn´t invest much money and energy in women.

I love to have a life where I don´t have to work and feeling like a slave. Now I am doing mostly things what I like . I have some ambition but I surpress it with my minimalist philosophy. Sometimes it´s simply enough. Somewhere there should be a limit.

I think a lot of us would be interested in a Data Sheet on how exactly you pull this off ie budget, location, city, travel, food, activities, luxuries etc.

I almost don´t travel. The city I am living now is Ankara where I own a flat so I don´t have to pay rent. I always eat at home mostly eggs and vegetables . This stuff is cheap here. I give around 150 euros per month for food, clothes and general stuff.

I like doing different sports. 100m from my flat is a beautiful park where I play Basketball everyday. I wake up at 5 in the morning. I do have a lot of hobbies which I routinely practice: Karaoke, Dancing, Reading (German, Turkish, English, Spanish) also loudly which is good for getting a better voice and learning languages. I am somekind of a sportsfreak I do a lot of different stuff like martial arts, shadow boxing, bodyweight training ( I am now at 95 push ups). Besides Basketball and Soccer I do practice most of these things at home and so it costs me nothing.

My background: I am of german nationality but with turkish origins. I lived all my life in Germany. Last year I left Germany. Now I am in Ankara for 1 year.

For me game is mostly dance game. But I do make big breaks where I do not game at all. For example now in Ankara as I am working on my hobbies. But in general I do game in dancing enviroments. In the past I gamed mostly students at house parties.

Most of my money I saved from my work. I could spend much more than I do but as I am a minimalist (some say cheap) I won´t do it. Yes obviously I don´t consume cigarettes, alcohol, expensive clothes, luxuries.

I don´t pay for health insurance. In case when SHTF I can go back to germany where there is work and a social net.

Though the weather is fine in Ankara for women I would have to move to the coastal regions, where I could buy a flat and be more in the game.

In some years Colombia and Thailand are on my radar.

Generally I live as a Beta on the outside. I am a fan of Epicurus who said: live hidden.

I try to strive for minimalism in the hope that it benefits me.
Here is an article I am now reading. It´s about the drive for striving to escape boredom.

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ReadersSubmissions2013/reader8229.htm

 

[bacan]

Damn just lost my post I typed up.

It's impossible to have ambition if you only think about the costs and benefits. For example how can a guy know which beer or pizza he passes up is going to be the factor marginally makes the difference in bedding a 9 or not?

I have been in a funk this week but I'm breaking out of it and am going to get some major work done. Not because my life will be substantially different if I slack off a few more days or not but because I want to live my life with the satisfaction of liking who I am and knowing that I'm going to do greater things than other people.

For example, do you want to be a keeper or write off? http://m.inc.com/?incid=49666

It's tough to figure out how to be ambitious. I don't think we need to be ambitious necessarily in the rat race sense but we need to embody the ethic of hard work and achieving the goals we set for ourselves to feel good about who we are.

My goal for today is to be proud of what I accomplish in the next 12 hours.

 

[cardguy]

There is a nice quote along these lines.

'A year from now - you will wish you started today.'

 

[WestCoast]

These posts are surprising to me.

I could not wake up and look in the mirror knowing I didn't do anything.

When I read the quote in the above poster all I think is "yes I wish I worked harder back when I was in college". I let some serious opportunities slip like an idiot and am paying for it.

Ambition to me is self esteem.

If you really don't have to do anything at all and are 100% free from working under someone's thumb then yes you no longer need to be ambitious. You earned the right to relax. Can't stand waking up knowing I have to "do something for someone" this would include serving clients (owning a biz) or working for someone.

I want to be 100% free to do what I want, when I want, with minimal regard to price as well.

 

[G Trooper]

It's interesting how some people lack ambition while others are extremely driven. I became driven when I moved out on my own at 23 and was done being sheltered and coddled by my parents. I found out that the freedom of living on your own and making your own money to support yourself is 100x better than being a loser living in your parents basement.

My brother is the total opposite. He just doesn't care at all, he's broke as a joke and bangs 5's and 6's constantly. I absolutely cringe at the photos of chicks that he texts me. Maybe some have it and some don't, but I just wanna fuck 8's, 9's, and 10's and as many as possible until I'm 70.

You cringe at the sight of a 6, and bang only 8, 9 and 10's?

That's impressive.

Nah, I didn't say that you misunderstood the post. I said I "want" to bang 8's, 9's, and 10's until I'm 70. Because I got that ambition baby.

I bang girls that pass my boner test, starting with a big ass, cute face, and good body. And they are everywhere here in Miami.

I cringe at some of the photos he sends me because sometimes they are straight horse faces. He can do so much better, but he doesn't because he lacks ambition and doesn't care.

The day I start banging a constant stream of 8's, 9's, and 10's...you'll be the first to know.

 

[WanderingSoul]

These posts are surprising to me.

I could not wake up and look in the mirror knowing I didn't do anything.

When I read the quote in the above poster all I think is "yes I wish I worked harder back when I was in college". I let some serious opportunities slip like an idiot and am paying for it.

Ambition to me is self esteem.

If you really don't have to do anything at all and are 100% free from working under someone's thumb then yes you no longer need to be ambitious. You earned the right to relax. Can't stand waking up knowing I have to "do something for someone" this would include serving clients (owning a biz) or working for someone.

I want to be 100% free to do what I want, when I want, with minimal regard to price as well.

This is one of my problems. Each year I get a sizable chunk of change and hop on a flight to Thailand. That chuck of change comes each year (though it is starting to dry up) so I can kind of just bide my time until that money drops. Sort of a safety net.

However, now that I am in my late 20s, I know I need more money and also something more stable. I have definitely gained ambition the past year, I think now my biggest problem is finding exactly what I want to do. I change my mind too often, and haven't had that one idea that really grabs me.

I have a lot of skills related to marketing, ecommerce, SEO, etc. I just have trouble nailing down what it is I want to do with it all. I've never been the type to me motivated strictly by money, there has to be something more.

I have actually been working on a project now, but I'm not 100% into it so it's moving much slower than it should. I just don't have that drive to succeed on something my heart isn't 100% in, and I haven't found what would grab my attention in that way yet.

 

[the_conductor]

A lot of ambition comes from the pressure/desire to provide for a woman and children. Very rarely do men work hard to sustain their lifestyle as a bachelor.

Men, deep down, are good creatures who work hard to provide for a woman/family. We call this ambition.

Once you realize that a woman could ruin you and take your children, you check out of that game.

Finally you realize that it doesn't take all that much to sustain your life as a bachelor.

I am extremely ambition when it comes to my hobbies. I don't just waste my time and work on building myself up, reading, and goofing off. I don't work as hard at my profession as I used to.

Think of it like this: What if you're a guy who just wants to lift weights and get big. You devote hours a day to eating right and training. Or maybe you want to bed 100 women. You spend hours running game and learning tricks.

Society would say you are a dead beat, a loser, or a mooch.

Yet you are focusing your mind on accomplishing what you want to accomplish. Isn't that ambitious?

You may or may not be ambitious. Ask whether you're using society's definition - which means you lack ambition unless you are spending your hours and energy providing for a family.

In that case, I have zero ambition.

And yet I live an awesome life and seem to get what I want.

See the difference?

You're talking about not having any ambition using society's definition, but the people having a real lack of ambition (eg me a lot of the time) don't even have ambition for their own goals.

It's like like the brain does a subconscious cost-benefit analysis of the work/reward of doing a task and dishes out motivation accordingly. For example if it takes exponentially more work to bang a 9 when compared to a 7, what makes some people push themselves to go for it while others are happy with banging 7s and putting 1/3 of the effort?

Why do some people want to be the best while are others are happy with above average?

A total lack of ambition could be depression - it's not always manifested by dark thoughts, suicide thoughts, gloominess, etc.

I believe I have this problem. I'm going to get my t levels checked, it seems low t can also cause all of this.

How does it work? An endocrinologist just takes your blood and do some tests?

 

[jimukr104]

Nothing wrong with lacking Job ambition. As animals we were never meant to slave away at work to make money to buy more trinkets. In America ambition is toxic. These guys keep working to make money, but they end up with an avg looking chick who fucks the pool boy.
That being said, if you gotta spend 8 hours doing something,might as well get paid as much as possible. Try working for the government. Its the perfect job for the un ambitious.

 

[bacan]

Bump for the better link to this article: http://www.inc.com/steve-tobak/what-kind-of-vibes-are-you-giving-off.html

This really motivates me. I think we need to find motivation from being the person we want to be