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<blockquote data-quote="General Stalin" data-source="post: 948497" data-attributes="member: 6135">It's important to define what &quot;The Wall&quot; really is.&quot;The Wall&quot; is the point in your life where you are past the peak of your SMV. You can no longer increase or even sustain your SMV.This is a difficult metric to measure with men.It is easy with women because the way we generally define their value is with their beauty, youth, firtility, and ability to care and nurture for family and household. Therefor, &quot;The Wall&quot; for a woman is typically when their looks and ability to reproduce and rear children decline.A man's value is defined by a number of different variables that are not all entirely governed by age. Not to mention that generally a man can still be very attractive and sexually competitive into his 50's and beyond given his lifestyle. Women do not value youth in men like men value youth in women.Looking at the cream of he crop with the best access to personal health, there are far more attractive middle aged men in Hollywood than women.A man's wall is the point in his life where he is no longer able to leverage his assets to gain desirable women who would want him to father their children.Given the state of &quot;family&quot; in the West the &quot;fathering their children&quot; thing may seem archaic but you get the picture.A man could be in his 60's or even 70's as long as he's in good physical shape, financially sound, and can still get it up and make babies then he's still in the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="General Stalin, post: 948497, member: 6135"] It's important to define what "The Wall" really is. "The Wall" is the point in your life where you are past the peak of your SMV. You can no longer increase or even sustain your SMV. This is a difficult metric to measure with men. It is easy with women because the way we generally define their value is with their beauty, youth, firtility, and ability to care and nurture for family and household. Therefor, "The Wall" for a woman is typically when their looks and ability to reproduce and rear children decline. A man's value is defined by a number of different variables that are not all entirely governed by age. Not to mention that generally a man can still be very attractive and sexually competitive into his 50's and beyond given his lifestyle. Women do not value youth in men like men value youth in women. Looking at the cream of he crop with the best access to personal health, there are far more attractive middle aged men in Hollywood than women. A man's wall is the point in his life where he is no longer able to leverage his assets to gain desirable women who would want him to father their children. Given the state of "family" in the West the "fathering their children" thing may seem archaic but you get the picture. A man could be in his 60's or even 70's as long as he's in good physical shape, financially sound, and can still get it up and make babies then he's still in the game. [/QUOTE]

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