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<blockquote data-quote="NASA Test Pilot" data-source="post: 948514" data-attributes="member: 10731"><p>I should have mentioned before that Somatotropin, the fancy term for hGH, is controlled by two hormones released from the hypothalamus, called somatocrinin or Growth-hormone-releasing hormone (GHRH), and somatostatin or Growth-hormone-inhibiting hormone (GHIH). If you want to boost hGH, you need to boost GHRH and suppress GHIH. There are several things that boost GHRH, including the hormone Grehlin, the sex hormones, deep sleep, (where over 50% of your hGH is released), hypoglycemia, vitamin B3, hard exercise.</p><p></p><p>The types of things that increase GHIH (which you do not want) are hyperglycemia (high blood sugar), glucocorticoids (stress hormones), hGH itself (through negative feedback), and high body fat. </p><p></p><p>If others have more examples of these, it would be appreciated. Also, if anyone can explain what or if there is a relationship between GHIH and DHT I would like to know. Post it or send me a PM.</p><p></p><p>The sleep part reminded me about a sign around my 33-34 year mark. Before I was 18 years old I would sleep significantly more than from 18-34. During this time I only needed 4 hours of sleep. </p><p></p><p>At about the 33-34 year mark this went up to about 6 hours per night (11-5). So I think this may have been a curve. Then again at about 47-48 it went up to 8 hours per night (10-6 or 8-4 in training), which may have been a curve that was a precursor to decreasing training performance. I will look for the next sleep increase to see if it is a precursor to a performance decrease. </p><p></p><p>The suggestion about fasting got me thinking. This makes sense if hGH is increased during fasting because it would help to preserve your muscle tissue and glycogen stores while using your fat stores instead. This breakdown of fat, which is called lipolysis, releases free fatty acids and glycerol, which are then metabolized to produce energy. Also, Grehlin (relates to the hunger response) boosts GHRH. My issue would then be with all of the physical activity and needing the caloric intake to sustain basic performance. A thought might be in the off season and on a resting day or 12-16 hour intermittent fasts. Lack of caloric intake also temporarily lowers testosterone, but maybe the detoxification (especially from estrogenic compounds) part outweighs this for shorter periods.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps the hGH would make you relatively more lean as a percentage, and I am focusing more on the recovery side of the equation as it is energetically less expensive to repair a cell than it is to divide and create new cells. </p><p></p><p>From a dated study in sports medicine they examined (younger) elite athletes and found that male swimmers in the 100M, 200M, and 400M Freestyle events had a mean body fat level of 6.5% plus or minus 1.2 percent while at peak training. I found a less dated study (1993) that related swim performance, body composition and somatotypes (in collegiate athletes at the beginning of the season (not at peak training) indicating 11% body fat. Current information seems to be showing 9-10 % for swimmers and 6-10 % for tri-athletes but I am looking for something more oriented toward science to confirm. Some of the strength development guys indicate that this percentage is generally low. If I am not training two a days for swimming; I combine/rotate 5 activities (surfing, swimming, 2-man sand volleyball, weight training, and dryland training).</p><p></p><p>I had my body fat measured again (double checked anthropometrically) today by the national team coaching staff and it averaged 8.6%. He believes that his consistency is plus or minus 1-2% and less experienced sports medicine guys maybe 2-3%. In the future I will have it double checked by an experienced person for greater accuracy. The winter surf swell is fading and I may begin another major swim training cycle in mid-April if I do not go back out to sea (sailing). </p><p></p><p>I am going to put on more lean muscle mass in the first two (three) meso-cycles (a meso-cycle is normally 4-6 weeks) and then work to maintain those strength gains during peak training. I will then measure my swim performance in sets during the early (meso) cycles, mid cycles and late cycles to include taper and compare them to the previous season(s); a season is usually a macro-cycle. I will measure my overall weight and percentage of body fat vs. swimming performance output (in 6 types of intensity/interval/set length categories) during training. It will only be few data points, but I can keep adding to them. What I will be looking for is how the change (increase in this case) in body fat and muscle mass (from previous sessions) affects my performance. As a side note, I eat 6+ times per day during heavy training and by increasing fat intake I will also see if my Testosterone levels increase when my body fat is measured. </p><p></p><p>Here is a list of actions I have to naturally increase hGH: Others can add to it or chop it down. Input is desired</p><p></p><p>1. Eat low glycemic carbohydrates (pastas, oatmeal, etc.) before training.</p><p>2. Training in shorter, more intense workouts 2-3 times a day. </p><p>3. Training using powerful lifts for example squats, dead lifts and power cleans.</p><p>4. Eating a balanced diet. Carbs/protein/fat. </p><p>5. Eating 5-7 times per day.</p><p>6. Using certain aminos throughout the day. Ornithine, arginine. </p><p>7. Take naps. </p><p>8. Go to bed on a carbohydrate empty stomach as carbohydrates produce insulin, which can help store fat. The body will only produce one at a time (hGH or insulin). </p><p>9. Getting enough deep sleep. </p><p>10. Intermittent Fasting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NASA Test Pilot, post: 948514, member: 10731"] I should have mentioned before that Somatotropin, the fancy term for hGH, is controlled by two hormones released from the hypothalamus, called somatocrinin or Growth-hormone-releasing hormone (GHRH), and somatostatin or Growth-hormone-inhibiting hormone (GHIH). If you want to boost hGH, you need to boost GHRH and suppress GHIH. There are several things that boost GHRH, including the hormone Grehlin, the sex hormones, deep sleep, (where over 50% of your hGH is released), hypoglycemia, vitamin B3, hard exercise. The types of things that increase GHIH (which you do not want) are hyperglycemia (high blood sugar), glucocorticoids (stress hormones), hGH itself (through negative feedback), and high body fat. If others have more examples of these, it would be appreciated. Also, if anyone can explain what or if there is a relationship between GHIH and DHT I would like to know. Post it or send me a PM. The sleep part reminded me about a sign around my 33-34 year mark. Before I was 18 years old I would sleep significantly more than from 18-34. During this time I only needed 4 hours of sleep. At about the 33-34 year mark this went up to about 6 hours per night (11-5). So I think this may have been a curve. Then again at about 47-48 it went up to 8 hours per night (10-6 or 8-4 in training), which may have been a curve that was a precursor to decreasing training performance. I will look for the next sleep increase to see if it is a precursor to a performance decrease. The suggestion about fasting got me thinking. This makes sense if hGH is increased during fasting because it would help to preserve your muscle tissue and glycogen stores while using your fat stores instead. This breakdown of fat, which is called lipolysis, releases free fatty acids and glycerol, which are then metabolized to produce energy. Also, Grehlin (relates to the hunger response) boosts GHRH. My issue would then be with all of the physical activity and needing the caloric intake to sustain basic performance. A thought might be in the off season and on a resting day or 12-16 hour intermittent fasts. Lack of caloric intake also temporarily lowers testosterone, but maybe the detoxification (especially from estrogenic compounds) part outweighs this for shorter periods. Perhaps the hGH would make you relatively more lean as a percentage, and I am focusing more on the recovery side of the equation as it is energetically less expensive to repair a cell than it is to divide and create new cells. From a dated study in sports medicine they examined (younger) elite athletes and found that male swimmers in the 100M, 200M, and 400M Freestyle events had a mean body fat level of 6.5% plus or minus 1.2 percent while at peak training. I found a less dated study (1993) that related swim performance, body composition and somatotypes (in collegiate athletes at the beginning of the season (not at peak training) indicating 11% body fat. Current information seems to be showing 9-10 % for swimmers and 6-10 % for tri-athletes but I am looking for something more oriented toward science to confirm. Some of the strength development guys indicate that this percentage is generally low. If I am not training two a days for swimming; I combine/rotate 5 activities (surfing, swimming, 2-man sand volleyball, weight training, and dryland training). I had my body fat measured again (double checked anthropometrically) today by the national team coaching staff and it averaged 8.6%. He believes that his consistency is plus or minus 1-2% and less experienced sports medicine guys maybe 2-3%. In the future I will have it double checked by an experienced person for greater accuracy. The winter surf swell is fading and I may begin another major swim training cycle in mid-April if I do not go back out to sea (sailing). I am going to put on more lean muscle mass in the first two (three) meso-cycles (a meso-cycle is normally 4-6 weeks) and then work to maintain those strength gains during peak training. I will then measure my swim performance in sets during the early (meso) cycles, mid cycles and late cycles to include taper and compare them to the previous season(s); a season is usually a macro-cycle. I will measure my overall weight and percentage of body fat vs. swimming performance output (in 6 types of intensity/interval/set length categories) during training. It will only be few data points, but I can keep adding to them. What I will be looking for is how the change (increase in this case) in body fat and muscle mass (from previous sessions) affects my performance. As a side note, I eat 6+ times per day during heavy training and by increasing fat intake I will also see if my Testosterone levels increase when my body fat is measured. Here is a list of actions I have to naturally increase hGH: Others can add to it or chop it down. Input is desired 1. Eat low glycemic carbohydrates (pastas, oatmeal, etc.) before training. 2. Training in shorter, more intense workouts 2-3 times a day. 3. Training using powerful lifts for example squats, dead lifts and power cleans. 4. Eating a balanced diet. Carbs/protein/fat. 5. Eating 5-7 times per day. 6. Using certain aminos throughout the day. Ornithine, arginine. 7. Take naps. 8. Go to bed on a carbohydrate empty stomach as carbohydrates produce insulin, which can help store fat. The body will only produce one at a time (hGH or insulin). 9. Getting enough deep sleep. 10. Intermittent Fasting. [/QUOTE]
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