On second thought after looking at mayo clinc online the cottonmouth snake is more of a medical emergency than the spider in most cases. All the Web sources say to get medical attention right away though.
Arachnophobes Beware: Spiders' Massive Webs Take Over Part Of Texas Park
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I'll take a black widow bite any day over a rattlesnake. A full grown healthy man can "wait" out a snack bite under medical car and have no side effects. Try that with a rattlesnake bite and you might get gangrene and loose a limb. Even with antivenin theres still a chance of that along with getting an infection.
Taipans on the other hand will leave you in the hospital for weeks. Supposedly lethality rate is not 100% but I'm not willing to be a case study for that:dodgy::dodgy::dodgy:
I'll take a black widow bite any day over a rattlesnake. A full grown healthy man can "wait" out a snack bite under medical car and have no side effects. Try that with a rattlesnake bite and you might get gangrene and loose a limb. Even with antivenin theres still a chance of that along with getting an infection.
Taipans on the other hand will leave you in the hospital for weeks. Supposedly lethality rate is not 100% but I'm not willing to be a case study for that:dodgy::dodgy::dodgy:
Mentavious said:
Apparently, the amount of venom injected is the difference maker. Drop for drop the spider is worse than the rattlesnake by a factor of 15, but a rattlesnake would drop in alot more volume wise. Sometimes the spiders make dry bites like some rattlesnakes do from what I just read.
Snakes outside of the US never concerned me until I went into remote areas of China. I could not find any information in English hardly. Chinese people were calling the snakes all kinds of strange names like "Sleep Snake". Apparently if it bites you, you will go to sleep. Yuck. I stayed nervous and paranoid walking out there. Wiki said King Cobras were out where I was, but no one I spoke to ever saw one before in the rice fields or mountainsides. I still had nightmares that I was going to turn around and see one standing up right in my face. lol
TK, I don't really feel like going on a ghost buster's mission hunting black widows in my musty garage so you'll just have to take my word for it. But I have seen enough of them (with the red hourglass) to where they are a relatively common occurence. Ill take a pic if a happen across one though.
The most recent time, about 3 years ago, I was bitten on the side near the ribcage area. It probably happened while I was working in the garage with my shirt off. At first glance it looked like a normal spider bite, but as time progressed it developed this really nasty looking purple ring that was way larger than the area of the bite. It also made me feel a bit woozy and disoriented later on. It eventually just went away after a day or so. It wasn't until later after doing some reading that I realized it was a BW bite based on the symptoms mentioned. From what I gather fatality rates from their bites are actually pretty low.
Rattlesnake or brown recluse.. I'm running from the hills.
The most recent time, about 3 years ago, I was bitten on the side near the ribcage area. It probably happened while I was working in the garage with my shirt off. At first glance it looked like a normal spider bite, but as time progressed it developed this really nasty looking purple ring that was way larger than the area of the bite. It also made me feel a bit woozy and disoriented later on. It eventually just went away after a day or so. It wasn't until later after doing some reading that I realized it was a BW bite based on the symptoms mentioned. From what I gather fatality rates from their bites are actually pretty low.
Rattlesnake or brown recluse.. I'm running from the hills.
Venomous bites containing cyto-toxins and hemo-toxins produce horrific wounds, possibly leading to amputation, while the neurotoxins are more likely to kill you.
If you want to lose your lunch, Google bites from the brown recluse or snakes in the pit viper family such as rattlesnake, fer de lance, etc.
If you want to lose your lunch, Google bites from the brown recluse or snakes in the pit viper family such as rattlesnake, fer de lance, etc.
You are one lucky man to not experience much from a bite. Most adults feel cramps and involuntary spasms at the injection site which radiate throughout the body.
You sure you're not Spider-Man?
You sure you're not Spider-Man?
I did feel a reasonable amount of physical discomfort but nothing extraordinary. Maybe its all the zinc I take?
This is one of the major reasons why I will always live somewhere that freezes in the winter. The worst thing about warmer climates is that the bugs and spiders never die. Winter gives a sort of reset every year for bugs, with the exception of small house spiders and what not.
I kill black widows and brown recluses on sight; fortunately they are not real common where I live.
With other spiders I'm extremely lenient; I usually leave them alone or at most catch them in a jar and release them outside.
I lived for years in an old mansion in New Orleans. Between all the cracks and passages in walls and the swampy climate it was thoroughly colonized by spiders, including some huge ones. My cat and I lived in harmony with the spiders and they were such effective exterminators I never had to spray for insects. I spent many evenings reading in my living room overwatched by my allies, who learned they could sit in the open in complete safety. Sometimes when in bed one would crawl onto my arm, leg or face and I would brush it off.
I was never bitten.
With other spiders I'm extremely lenient; I usually leave them alone or at most catch them in a jar and release them outside.
I lived for years in an old mansion in New Orleans. Between all the cracks and passages in walls and the swampy climate it was thoroughly colonized by spiders, including some huge ones. My cat and I lived in harmony with the spiders and they were such effective exterminators I never had to spray for insects. I spent many evenings reading in my living room overwatched by my allies, who learned they could sit in the open in complete safety. Sometimes when in bed one would crawl onto my arm, leg or face and I would brush it off.
I was never bitten.
I may be preconditioned to spiders terrifying me by growing up in the south(we have the brown recluse, the black widow and the brown widow all common), but snakes have never affected me as much.
If you keep your eyes open and practice cautionary behavior(like not sleeping on the ground in snake country) they're pretty easy to out-maneuver and hardly have a run in with. Now spiders on the other hand DEEPLY bother me due to their instinctual behaviors. Many species sit stationary as a stone all day while waiting for prey. Nearly all have an affinity for snug, small hiding places. They're very fast, agile and flexible. They're less visible than snakes and don't make noises(except for a very few species I believe).
Mast years, I came over my parents house after work or something and my mom told me they had snakes living in there. The wildlife guy told me over the phone that they were "chicken snakes" and non-venomous, but chop off their heads anyway. Finding that an unnecessary cruelty, I opted for tossing them out of the garage with a broom handle. After initially acting timid, the snakes started crawling back toward me after the third or fourth toss away from the house. I then started swinging like it was a hockey stick, putting them high in the air, but they still came back to me aggressively. After knocking them into high grass they seemed to lose interest. I looked over all the native snake species of this area and came to find with absolute certainty that those snakes weren't chicken snakes, but baby water moccasins.
Moral of the story is, don't play around with snake or spider, just kill the hell out of it.
If you keep your eyes open and practice cautionary behavior(like not sleeping on the ground in snake country) they're pretty easy to out-maneuver and hardly have a run in with. Now spiders on the other hand DEEPLY bother me due to their instinctual behaviors. Many species sit stationary as a stone all day while waiting for prey. Nearly all have an affinity for snug, small hiding places. They're very fast, agile and flexible. They're less visible than snakes and don't make noises(except for a very few species I believe).
Mast years, I came over my parents house after work or something and my mom told me they had snakes living in there. The wildlife guy told me over the phone that they were "chicken snakes" and non-venomous, but chop off their heads anyway. Finding that an unnecessary cruelty, I opted for tossing them out of the garage with a broom handle. After initially acting timid, the snakes started crawling back toward me after the third or fourth toss away from the house. I then started swinging like it was a hockey stick, putting them high in the air, but they still came back to me aggressively. After knocking them into high grass they seemed to lose interest. I looked over all the native snake species of this area and came to find with absolute certainty that those snakes weren't chicken snakes, but baby water moccasins.
Moral of the story is, don't play around with snake or spider, just kill the hell out of it.
I had no idea...that it's possible to have your penis ruined by a spider bite which causes priapism:
The description of how this is treated had me cringing. Those Viagra warnings are no joke.
The more you know!
The description of how this is treated had me cringing. Those Viagra warnings are no joke.
The more you know!
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RexImperator said:
MOTHER FUCKER! That video was terrifying. I haven't felt such cold sweats since I used to try to force myself to watch that show "the operation" when I was a kid.
Whatever happened to that show? that was some hard core gruesome stuff. I distinctly recall them peeling back someone's face and cutting their upper jaw apart with a saw to do pallate correction and it was just regular daytime TV.
I wouldn't cross under that web:
I heard once that it's possible our basic fear of spiders stems from something very primal in our evolutionary cycle. Back when CO2 levels and temperatures were much higher (and humans could still survive there and prosper even better by the way) spider were massive:
A spider the size of a large dog would be indeed an incredibly dangerous predator, since their speed, strength and poison would make them some of the most lethal killers ever. Also their alien look and eating habits of capturing prey and liquidating them alive is much worse than what a dinosaur would do to you.
Also - we should not have any false sentimatily towards nature. If you leave nature free will, then it will kill you. We create houses and more habitable areas so that we can live in peace - we even invite friendly animals like cats and dogs into our houses. Nature first and foremost is a lethal killer.
I heard once that it's possible our basic fear of spiders stems from something very primal in our evolutionary cycle. Back when CO2 levels and temperatures were much higher (and humans could still survive there and prosper even better by the way) spider were massive:
A spider the size of a large dog would be indeed an incredibly dangerous predator, since their speed, strength and poison would make them some of the most lethal killers ever. Also their alien look and eating habits of capturing prey and liquidating them alive is much worse than what a dinosaur would do to you.
Also - we should not have any false sentimatily towards nature. If you leave nature free will, then it will kill you. We create houses and more habitable areas so that we can live in peace - we even invite friendly animals like cats and dogs into our houses. Nature first and foremost is a lethal killer.
Just dropping this totally unthreatening wonder of nature here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_(spider)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_(spider)