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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ilostabet" data-source="post: 1403570" data-attributes="member: 13181"><p>The Fathers are far from not engaging in discussion and accusing others of insufficient faith (and even of trying to destroy the faith) . Most of their writings were addressing ideas they considered either wrong, unclear or, more often than not, heretical. This is how the faith was established to a large degree. Because we know quite well now from the lessons of the Reformation that anything and everything can be argued from Scripture, if one is twisted enough. And insofar as I can tell, even modern ideas like evolution are not more than new versions of early heresies which were argued against and utterly destroyed more than a thousand years ago.</p></blockquote><p></p>