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<blockquote data-quote="ilostabet" data-source="post: 1403584" data-attributes="member: 13181"><p>The attitude some Christian evolutionists have that if we add God to evolution, then all is well seems to me to be particularly dangerous, even more so than the random chance hypothesis (which is absurd), precisely because it is so appeasing and appealing to Christians. But the fact remains that evolution is a narrative, and it clashes directly with God&#039;s revelation to men. Adding God to it is another form of Deism, which is antithetical to Christianity, ultimately. To believe God put evolution in motion we have to disbelieve a whole lot about what Scripture says and what the traditional Christian understanding of it is, all of it quite important to the faith. The fact that there is no consistent scientific proof for any of it is to me even beside the point. It is a philosophical question above all. And either one has the right philosophy (theology) or we accept the naturalistic philosophy of science, which presupposes that an experimental method can reveal ultimate truths about reality, not just observe its processes. Ultimately, it is no different than trying to fit other modern sensibilities (like the buddy &#039;jesus&#039;) into Christianity, which most here would obviously reject. But for some reason, evolution still holds as the foundational myth, even above what is explicit in the Scriptures. But just because you add God to evolution, it changes nothing. You can add God to anything and make it stick. &#039;the demons also believe, and tremble&#039;.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="ilostabet, post: 1403584, member: 13181"] The attitude some Christian evolutionists have that if we add God to evolution, then all is well seems to me to be particularly dangerous, even more so than the random chance hypothesis (which is absurd), precisely because it is so appeasing and appealing to Christians. But the fact remains that evolution is a narrative, and it clashes directly with God's revelation to men. Adding God to it is another form of Deism, which is antithetical to Christianity, ultimately. To believe God put evolution in motion we have to disbelieve a whole lot about what Scripture says and what the traditional Christian understanding of it is, all of it quite important to the faith. The fact that there is no consistent scientific proof for any of it is to me even beside the point. It is a philosophical question above all. And either one has the right philosophy (theology) or we accept the naturalistic philosophy of science, which presupposes that an experimental method can reveal ultimate truths about reality, not just observe its processes. Ultimately, it is no different than trying to fit other modern sensibilities (like the buddy 'jesus') into Christianity, which most here would obviously reject. But for some reason, evolution still holds as the foundational myth, even above what is explicit in the Scriptures. But just because you add God to evolution, it changes nothing. You can add God to anything and make it stick. 'the demons also believe, and tremble'. [/QUOTE]

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