ilostabet said:I wonder how many of the guys bitching about marriage and women being so bad are actually married.
and of those that are, or were, maybe you should consider that to have a good woman who will be submissive, you need to be the kind of man that is worth submitting to.
I think this is a very prominent post, find a good submissive woman and be of frame to be submitted to. Most likely the only way you can have a decent marriage these days.
I should have clarified my post a bit more. Instead of happy I should have used the word content, as any wise man knows you cannot be in a constant state of happiness(and to think you can is like spending your life chasing fools gold), so I think some people took that too literal and that is my fault. I choose happy just because I was thinking at the time how unhappy and depressed many couples I know are so my head just jumped to the opposite of that.
Also on the topic, I don't think cohabitation applies here, while I do no disagree at all the benefits of cohabitation vs marriage, any good woman worth cohabitating and have children with most likely will also want to be married, as pointed out it is much more important to them than it is to us. Of course there are always outliers but lets be realistic here, your tradition good childbearing submissive wife is going to want marriage on top of all that and rightly so.