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<blockquote data-quote="Cortez84" data-source="post: 1540292" data-attributes="member: 24044"><p>The question we need to be asking ourselves is if those specific gut bacteria are a positive or negative thing rather than assuming they are beneficial by default. I think research on the gut biome is in its infancy and we actually do not really know half as much as we think we do. Your biome changes based on your diet, so whats to say that a meat heavy diet with minimal fibre is not better? The problem we are seeing is that people are trying to use the gut biome as a justification to support different diets all the time. I think in some cases its genuinely altruistic, but in others its often people trying to justify the diet they prefer or are advocates of by cherry picking what suits their argument. Its bizarre how ideological nutrition has become. 90% of it is quackery and people with half cocked ideas who attach their identities to it all, which just clouds things further</p><p></p><p>I remember when fruit and vegetables were seasonal. Before we had these globalized supply chains and refrigerated warehouses all over the place there were seasons where certain foods were available. Thats been one of the biggest reasons why the whole vegan movement has given me pause. At no time in our history other than today would it have been possible to get all your nutrition from plants, many of which would be exotic if not for refrigerated shipping. </p><p></p><p>At the same time I think that the carnivore diet crowd have gone to the other extreme. If you actually do your bloodwork you will see the impact ketogenic diets tend to have on your cortisol levels over time, which affect things like sleep and your other hormones. Im not saying a ketogenic/low carb diet is not beneficial at times but as a permanent lifestyle choice Im not sold that this is correct either. Everyone seems to forget that it was hunting AND gathering, and very often tubers and root vegetables formed a significant part of the diet too. As like almost anything else in life, balance beats excess. </p><p></p><p>On the issue of bread and wheat, the arguments against it have some merit. However if you have been to Europe you would realize quite quickly that the stuff we are getting in Aldi and supermarkets in western countries is not really bread at all. Its all highly processed, mass produced garbage that used ingredients sourced from industrialized, genetically modified crops where yields are more important than anything else. So is it wheat that is really the issue, or is it more a case of what we have done to the wheat? </p><p></p><p>Its the same with dairy. For all we know the excessive pasteurization and highly selective breeding, not to mention the way we feed cattle might have resulted in a significant change to how our bodies respond to it, which is why so many people are having issues with lactose these days.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cortez84, post: 1540292, member: 24044"] The question we need to be asking ourselves is if those specific gut bacteria are a positive or negative thing rather than assuming they are beneficial by default. I think research on the gut biome is in its infancy and we actually do not really know half as much as we think we do. Your biome changes based on your diet, so whats to say that a meat heavy diet with minimal fibre is not better? The problem we are seeing is that people are trying to use the gut biome as a justification to support different diets all the time. I think in some cases its genuinely altruistic, but in others its often people trying to justify the diet they prefer or are advocates of by cherry picking what suits their argument. Its bizarre how ideological nutrition has become. 90% of it is quackery and people with half cocked ideas who attach their identities to it all, which just clouds things further I remember when fruit and vegetables were seasonal. Before we had these globalized supply chains and refrigerated warehouses all over the place there were seasons where certain foods were available. Thats been one of the biggest reasons why the whole vegan movement has given me pause. At no time in our history other than today would it have been possible to get all your nutrition from plants, many of which would be exotic if not for refrigerated shipping. At the same time I think that the carnivore diet crowd have gone to the other extreme. If you actually do your bloodwork you will see the impact ketogenic diets tend to have on your cortisol levels over time, which affect things like sleep and your other hormones. Im not saying a ketogenic/low carb diet is not beneficial at times but as a permanent lifestyle choice Im not sold that this is correct either. Everyone seems to forget that it was hunting AND gathering, and very often tubers and root vegetables formed a significant part of the diet too. As like almost anything else in life, balance beats excess. On the issue of bread and wheat, the arguments against it have some merit. However if you have been to Europe you would realize quite quickly that the stuff we are getting in Aldi and supermarkets in western countries is not really bread at all. Its all highly processed, mass produced garbage that used ingredients sourced from industrialized, genetically modified crops where yields are more important than anything else. So is it wheat that is really the issue, or is it more a case of what we have done to the wheat? Its the same with dairy. For all we know the excessive pasteurization and highly selective breeding, not to mention the way we feed cattle might have resulted in a significant change to how our bodies respond to it, which is why so many people are having issues with lactose these days. [/QUOTE]
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