Are some careers too unattractive? (Software development)

[Nerian]

software engineering doesn't turn you into a geek.

It is actually quite silly when I think about it like that. I guess that was a concern. I don't want to turn into a huge geek. I don't fit the stereotype in my own judgement.

I guess I have to ask myself. If I already had the girl of my dreams, what would I want to get up every day and do? Because if I'm only working for the pussy opportunities, my work is gonna be hellishly meaningless if I already have a great girl.

Besides, I can always do sexy hobbies if I want a 'hot identity'.

The solution is just to clearly not be a geek. If you dance salsa / play guitar in a band / have muscles / have style / ride a motorbike / are a good conversationalist, you are not going to be called a geek. Even if you dress like Neo at work, write lame jokes in your code comments, make 5 references to 'magic smoke' per day, and only use FreeBSD for religious reasons. As GLL says "you only need 2 good or interesting traits that are high contrast". The lawyer who is ripped. The doctor who travels to places like Antarctica & Gambia. The engineer who fought in a battle. The accountant who competes in downhill skiing. So be the software guy who X. You choose X.

Yep, I see. I see. Thank you.

 

[Fortis]

Who cares what girls think? Live your life and do as you please. I like to play battle card games. If a girl doesn't like it she can take a fucking hike. I'm just using that as an example, but do not base your career decisions based on what some hypothetical random chick thinks. Sure, some girls might write you off as a geek, but ask yourself this:

Will I lose sleep over that?

or

will I lose sleep over working a job I feel "meh" about to impress other people instead of a job I enjoy where I can make a ton of money?

Easy choice for me. follow the money, and that goes double if the money is in something you enjoy doing.

 

[Nerian]

Who cares what girls think? Live your life and do as you please. I like to play battle card games. If a girl doesn't like it she can take a fucking hike. I'm just using that as an example, but do not base your career decisions based on what some hypothetical random chick thinks. Sure, some girls might write you off as a geek, but ask yourself this:

Will I lose sleep over that?

or

will I lose sleep over working a job I feel "meh" about to impress other people instead of a job I enjoy where I can make a ton of money?

Easy choice for me. follow the money, and that goes double if the money is in something you enjoy doing.

God damn, so right. So damn right.

I shouldn't sweat the little things because good game and having a nice physique should be damn well enough for most girls.

And if I want to ultimately find love, the kind of girl I would want would be somewhat nerdy and intelligent herself.

 

[Nerian]

I'm studying software development. The career prospects are good. I like coding. The money can be pretty good. There's the possibility of being location independent. There's always something new to learn, which I think is cool. But I worry about this career choice. It's associated with geeky social lepers. Is it going to be a huge disadvantage? Should I be worried?

- Sylar

Do you want to keep on learning new stuff as you grow older? Software development is a young man's game.

I'm rather interested in joining or starting a startup and going hard to make a small fortune. If that didn't work out, perhaps management positions?

The only other career that attracts me is translator/interpreter because of my love of languages. I enjoy the process of figuring out how to express the same meaning in another language really cool. That is also conveniently a job that can be location independent, although the money is not as great.

I also considered being a French teacher. But the academic life doesn't really excite me.

I cannot think of much else I want to do. I like the idea of working on technology in some capacity. Technology has a feeling of magic to me. You learn some facts about reality, then you put those facts together in a new way, and thereby unlock new capacities for the human race. And you can make excellent bank doing so. That is cool in my opinion, even if chicks think it's lame.

 

[Scaro066]

I like to say: "I kill bugs for a living..." it sounds more alpha than software developer, then change the topic and move on to something else or play along with it

 

[Fortis]

^ That doesn't always work. Some girls will laugh and then say, "but seriously, what do you do?" If you keep dodging then you look weird. That's why Neil Strauss's "I'm an underwear model" joke doesn't work anymore.

 

[PharaohRa]

Some careers with a high barrier to entry are good to have (anything heavy into math) but you still need to work on your game.

 

[weambulance]

I'm sure some careers are big negatives. If you jerk off horses for a living, make up something else. I don't count software development in that category (I am a software developer and writer).

What you do isn't what you are. Girls don't hang out with you at work. Do cool shit in your off time and don't worry about it.

Damn few girls really care what you do anyway, even if they ask.

 

[Travesty]

^ That doesn't always work. Some girls will laugh and then say, "but seriously, what do you do?" If you keep dodging then you look weird. That's why Neil Strauss's "I'm an underwear model" joke doesn't work anymore.

Maybe you didn't catch it.

Kill bugs, as in fix software shit.

It's a very gay play on words - I like it though because it's so bad it's good. Girls like the same stuff retards like.

 

[Repo]

Roissy mentioned somethimg similar years ago. You can run "contrast" game. Nerdy job? Get jacked and maybe a few tattoos. Then when women ask about you, you can tell the truth and they may not even believe you! Use this to tease them a bit, joke about it. Owning what you do will help your confidence more than trying to hide it, and women will pick up on that.

 

[Easy_C]

Here's how I see it, in terms of 1-10 SMV

There are maybe a few dozen jobs that get the pussy wet:

Professional musician, artist, firefighter, athlete, actor, pilot, boat captain, bartender, doctor, dancer, personal trainer, agent, photographer. (+1.5 for a wide range of girls)

.....

Dude, that was WAY to deep an analysis and way too anal for how subjective these topics are, but still a great writeup.

General point applies though. Unless you have the opportunity to go into a job like the ones this guy mentions in the quoted parts I wouldn't choose a career opportunity based on how much it's going to attract women. Instead choose whatever career gives you personally the best balance between opening doors, personal satisfaction, and future earnings potential.

Women will come on their own, and if you have no personality or game even the most highly sought after position won't bring you happiness with women. Take a look at who Bill Gate and Mark Zuckerburg married......Hell I was making a tiny fraction of what they do and married a girl vastly more attractive than either of their spouses.

 

[Travesty]

Jesus, based on Travesty's testimony about his bang's quality we need to rename the forum to the TraVesty forum.

I'll admit I am fascist about how guys rate girls, because I don't like being lied to about what a country or city has to offer, what type of Game really works on what level girl, or making girls have worse attitudes.

That said I live in a college town on purpose and my record is generally 20-23 year old low to mid 7s. I have never claimed to be a guy racking up 8's and have plenty of respect for those that do and am working like everyone else on this forum to get there.

 

[Travesty]

Here's how I see it, in terms of 1-10 SMV

There are maybe a few dozen jobs that get the pussy wet:

Professional musician, artist, firefighter, athlete, actor, pilot, boat captain, bartender, doctor, dancer, personal trainer, agent, photographer. (+1.5 for a wide range of girls)

.....

Dude, that was WAY to deep an analysis and way too anal for how subjective these topics are, but still a great writeup.

LOL if you like that one here's another one that is overkill on Asian chicks:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-51357-post-1139601.html#pid1139601


Yeah, my friends mostly think I'm nuts and I mostly hang with some pretty eccentric outgoing characters or highly intelligent people. Black sheep of the family and all that.

When I bang this out I don't sit around and think, that post came out in about 10-15 minutes in a stream of conciousness. All this is just sitting around in my head.

When I game girls or bullshit with friends and I improv a story or analogy or whatever I often get "you must think about this alot" or "you must have told this before". No my brain just wants to spit things out constantly.

I must enjoy writing and use this forum as a break and way of expression. I know writing here has helped me in other parts of life where I need to plan and express something to an audience.