Are We Seeing An Uprise Of The Female Incel?

kel

Ostrich
I saw a tweet or a quip in a blog or something once about the female dating strategy subreddit that pointed out that from the intention to the abundance of acronyms and jargon it really is like a genderswapped aughties PUA scene except there's no aspect of self-improvement. Seemed like a good summary to me.

In any event, there essentially is no such thing as a true female incel - a "trucel" as incels would said (and they are simultaneously very depressed and self-hating and incredibly protective of their terminology and identity), but as the article suggests, a combination of men withdrawing from society and sinking into slovenly vidya jockeys and women largely doing the same thing except being even more in-your-face in society about it there's a total mismatch in expectations and the math just doesn't add up.

This is not a pick up forum any more, but many of you know it personally to be true: if you are a reasonably successful, reasonably attractive man who can be reasonably charming and is willing to take a risk and put himself out there, this all works very much in your favor. Now, whether that juice is worth the squeeze is another story, but I shouldn't say any more.

I know it's not my job to save the world, but still I am very concerned by all this. My entire generation, plus the generation coming of age now, has been subjected to this reality basically their entire lives and are acting accordingly. Maybe people will get desperate and pair off, as old Dalrock blogs suggested is still happening (though I think there's lots of divorce and what not and that pairing off is really just sad dating with some extra ceremony around it) but I don't see any way that in ten, twenty years we don't have a major mass of millennials and zoomers who have no family, no community, nothing really contextualizing their lives, all they'll have is consooomerism and politics (but I repeat myself). And they'll have nothing but time to indulge in all that. Even if your plan, like mine, is to "escape" as best you can, that massive "workforce" so to speak will affect our lives.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
^ None of this social re engineering is occurring by happenstance but rather a decades long plan that is fully manifesting now.

A couple years ago I scoffed at many of the JQ positions and black pilled "conspiracies" that were being espoused on the political threads on this forum. Not anymore.

There are endless examples but regarding the degradation of the nuclear family unit one need not look any further than BLM. Their own website (used to anyway) declared goal of "disrupting the traditional nuclear family in favor of communities raising children collectively"

With a basic understanding of communist doctrine you understand the "why?" behind this stated objective. If the natural order of human nature organizing through ones tribe (family) is eliminated then it becomes easier for the state to take its place.

You are right to be concerned.
 

aeroektar

Pelican
I was thinking about this the other day. Someone I know who is a college freshman at a major university in the south is constantly crying to her mother about how she can't find a boyfriend and she's lonely. All she does is sit in her room and look at screens and talk to family and friends back home, lamenting about wanting to come back home, while tons of kids are out socializing and living normally.

Why is that? Because her parents raised her like a boy, there was no effort to instill feminine behaviour in her growing up. The focus was 100% on sports and studying for a career, two male pursuits. She was given an iPhone and gadgets as a young teenager and that added to her social awkwardness. Now she's a young woman, average blonde blue eyed genetically which isn't a bad thing necessarily because all a woman has to do these days is have good hygiene, be thin, do a good job grooming and taking care of herself and present herself femininely and she is elevated to 7+ status.

But instead she is your typical zoomer girl. Goofy awkward politically correct personality, baggy sweatshirt and sweatpants, dorky style, no effort to really groom or take care of herself, and unfortunately chubby, which is tolerable to some men when the girl has a small bone structure and carries it well, but white American women these days have frames with the same amount of mass a mans frame had just decades ago and when they start gaining extra fat it goes to places where it gives them a broad not curvy look and it's completely unattractive, like fat to the midsection, back, arms, neck, hands, lower legs. With a little bit of chub white women these days are 180lbs which is a no go for a lot of men.

Most American women are just all around unattractive these days.
 
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J.E.

Robin
Not only is there a rise in femcels, but also lesbianism especially in teen girls. When I was walking outside today I saw two teenage girls - they were not ugly - holding hands, which I have never seen before in my city; I have seen this a lot in a university city I used to live in. First I thought to say something insulting but I wasn't in my mojo, so I looked straight to prevent giving them the attention they desperately crave.

I believe the rise in femcels and (pseudo-)lesbians is a lack of feminine role models and understanding of how to treat men, which results in lack of or bad experiences with the opposite sex. More often than not do they hate their being female and try to mentally and/or physically imitate a man. Their antagonization of men is really self-hatred in disguise. They blame their failure as women on men, in which the source of the problem is some trauma from family or environment they grew up in.

Source: I met too many girls like that, more often than not they were quite beautiful but men (including me) had trouble seeing them in a sexual way - meaning we didn't see them as real women. They want to open up to men but their hatred and distrust is resulting them in sabotaging any possible relationship.

It is a tragedy, the best girl I met had this one significant hang-up which renders her dysfunctional for any romantic relationship with men. In a couple of years she will be 30 and likely single. It is a shame to see a girl like her to become bitter and crazy due to lack of being grounded in her femininity and lack of being honest to herself.
 
I re-entered the dating world in 2019 after my divorce and have been astounded at the level of narcissism out there amongst the average woman. I am mid-forties now but mostly dated women in their late 20's to early 30's who were never married and childless . . and they all were full of themselves. I have to say though the worst case of NPD I experienced was from a woman in her late 30's, twice divorced with a young child. She was very attractive but that is all she had to offer (sex) at this point in her life; but grossly overvalued herself as a potential mate . . . which I never considered for obvious reasons. I witnessed such shocking narcissism from her in the six months we "dated" that I've been tempted to write an article about it and post here just for entertainment value.


A twice divorced woman with a child is nothing more than a sex toy on the dating market in terms of sexual market value because her marital market value is basically 0. If she is good-looking that is only relevant for a man looking for a quickie or a hook-up/pump-dump.

I wouldn't go with a twice divorcee, especially if she has a kid.

I would want to see the divorce papers and talk to each ex-spouse to get their version of why there was a divorce. Most divorcees will play the victim and when a man tries to probe into the facts that way, things rapidly end.
 
^ None of this social re engineering is occurring by happenstance but rather a decades long plan that is fully manifesting now.

A couple years ago I scoffed at many of the JQ positions and black pilled "conspiracies" that were being espoused on the political threads on this forum. Not anymore.

There are endless examples but regarding the degradation of the nuclear family unit one need not look any further than BLM. Their own website (used to anyway) declared goal of "disrupting the traditional nuclear family in favor of communities raising children collectively"

With a basic understanding of communist doctrine you understand the "why?" behind this stated objective. If the natural order of human nature organizing through ones tribe (family) is eliminated then it becomes easier for the state to take its place.

You are right to be concerned.


Feminism is how an international well-poisoner poisons the well and undermines the fabric of Christian civilization and society.

I once told a friend "the city is sick because a handful of men have been poisoning the well."

The city is sick because a few people have been poisoning the well. We all know someone who hates existence and torments animals in an alley because they hate life. These are the people who spread ideological corruption and poison the well that is the collective mind of the national populace.


Imagine if Joe is up at night putting fluoride in the water and the Patriotic Times writes "Joe is poisoning the water" so Joe buys the institutional investors who own the Patriotic Times and now the story is, "Why fluoride is good for you, a new study shows..."

Joe has gone from being a sick man who poisons the well at night to being a big man in charge of the ideas that are now poisoning the minds of the masses openly in the light of day.

Since Christ isn't here to be nailed to a cross they have to content themselves with corrupting His church by turning His sheep away from Him. The wolves are rampaging against the sheep.

History is a written criminal activity report.

History is an indictment against them. This is why they are suppressing, erasing, and falsifying history.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Yes, Russia has fixed its demographics issue, unlike countries like Germany, Italy, Spain etc whose native population and fertility rates are dropping like a stone. They had a huge drop from the 1990s when their country was plunged in neoliberal hell, but have recovered since:

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Compared with say, Germany, Russia's pyramid has a sizeable bump at the bottom. The reason why it tapers as the very bottom is not because they are having fewer babies, it's because there is a smaller pool of young women due to the effects of the 1990-2005 socio-economic disaster. Fertility rates have stabilized in the 1.7 zone (vs around 1.2 in Italy, Spain, Germany etc)

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As well Russia absorbed Crimea, which along with ethnic Russians coming back from FSU/central Asian countries in past decades added to their numbers.

Putin had a demographic campaign that included a successful PR campaign aimed at young women where they promoted local celebrities having families, babies and raising toddlers as a cool and healthy goal for them, sort of a reverse campaign that is going on in the West where the YOLO - have fun while you're young - career and travel - dogs and cats - climate change doom brainwashing has been raging on for decades.
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
I remember reading a few months back how porn viewership amongst women has risen astronomically. Over 40% of women consume porn now.
And it is most often the violent type, rarely sought after by men. Of course there's all kinds of ways they explain it away, but I think it's a perversion of the latent desire that women want a man who takes charge. No, that doesn't mean they want to be raped, that's why I call it a perversion of something natural. It isn't natural to want to be raped, but it is natural for a female to be attracted to a man who leads and knows what he wants.

That might be too much for some people to take, but I believe it is a component of what we are witnessing now, with so many frustrated and misguided "alpha" women.
 

MrFreezy

Sparrow
Putin had a demographic campaign that included a successful PR campaign aimed at young women where they promoted local celebrities having families, babies and raising toddlers as a cool and healthy goal for them, sort of a reverse campaign that is going on in the West where the YOLO - have fun while you're young - career and travel - dogs and cats - climate change doom brainwashing has been raging on for decades.
Got to say something about that because I m half Russian. Born in the former SU, emigrated to Germany later. Now living in Canada.
That's right Putin had a campaign where he publicly said he encourages Russian women to have at least 3 kids. What kind of BS is that? My opinion about him went down drastically. My Moskva relatives still think he is the man which is ok I guess. How does that suppose to look like? He wants people to have have sex to support the country? Fuck for the government? Not very Christian of him, isn't it?
Call me crazy but I still think kids suppose to be the consequences of faith ( be fruitful and multiply) and parents love for each other. An expression of people loving life and wanting to continue their bloodlines. That's why I got married and had kids in the first place.
Putin is not the only one who is doing this shit though. Poland and Hungary are having government programs to increase birth rates. Western countries are importing new citizens, the East block doesn't like immigrants, so they come up with this weird wacky stuff. Both ways are doomed to fail I think. You need solid reasons to have kids and its not Putin peeking through your bedroom keyhole whispering to you to get it up or get the fuck out. The Amish can do it or the Russian German Mennonites which is my "volksgruppe". Both are strong in the faith which is lacking in Russia right now. I know bunch of people here have a thing for Putin which is fine. But this one is ridiculous.
 

Blade Runner

Pelican
Got to say something about that because I m half Russian. Born in the former SU, emigrated to Germany later. Now living in Canada.
That's right Putin had a campaign where he publicly said he encourages Russian women to have at least 3 kids. What kind of BS is that? My opinion about him went down drastically. My Moskva relatives still think he is the man which is ok I guess. How does that suppose to look like? He wants people to have have sex to support the country? Fuck for the government? Not very Christian of him, isn't it?
Call me crazy but I still think kids suppose to be the consequences of faith ( be fruitful and multiply) and parents love for each other. An expression of people loving life and wanting to continue their bloodlines. That's why I got married and had kids in the first place.
Putin is not the only one who is doing this shit though. Poland and Hungary are having government programs to increase birth rates. Western countries are importing new citizens, the East block doesn't like immigrants, so they come up with this weird wacky stuff. Both ways are doomed to fail I think. You need solid reasons to have kids and its not Putin peeking through your bedroom keyhole whispering to you to get it up or get the fuck out. The Amish can do it or the Russian German Mennonites which is my "volksgruppe". Both are strong in the faith which is lacking in Russia right now. I know bunch of people here have a thing for Putin which is fine. But this one is ridiculous.
It sounds like you'd rather someone promote the death of his country, however slowly or quickly that may occur. As someone from the US (and you say you are living in Canada) with all of its messages and propaganda, I can tell you in general, it's not healthy.

I'd take Putin's message over lies, any day.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Got to say something about that because I m half Russian. Born in the former SU, emigrated to Germany later. Now living in Canada.
That's right Putin had a campaign where he publicly said he encourages Russian women to have at least 3 kids. What kind of BS is that? My opinion about him went down drastically. My Moskva relatives still think he is the man which is ok I guess. How does that suppose to look like? He wants people to have have sex to support the country? Fuck for the government? Not very Christian of him, isn't it?
Call me crazy but I still think kids suppose to be the consequences of faith ( be fruitful and multiply) and parents love for each other. An expression of people loving life and wanting to continue their bloodlines. That's why I got married and had kids in the first place.
Putin is not the only one who is doing this shit though. Poland and Hungary are having government programs to increase birth rates. Western countries are importing new citizens, the East block doesn't like immigrants, so they come up with this weird wacky stuff. Both ways are doomed to fail I think. You need solid reasons to have kids and its not Putin peeking through your bedroom keyhole whispering to you to get it up or get the fuck out. The Amish can do it or the Russian German Mennonites which is my "volksgruppe". Both are strong in the faith which is lacking in Russia right now. I know bunch of people here have a thing for Putin which is fine. But this one is ridiculous.

That was a weird tirade, it's not like Putin is telling young Russians to have children out of wedlock. He, along with Orban and the Poles are providing a social, cultural and economic landscape that is favorable for the formation of normal families with many children, exactly the opposite of what western social engineers are doing with their globohomo, Crowlean materialism, toxic feminism, anti-white anti-Christian climate doom cult. If you haven't gotten that by now I'm not sure what you're doing on this board.
 
Given that women hit "the wall" and afterwards become, lets just say, unappealing from a sexual point of view, and coupled with many women not getting married, it follows that female incels are on the rise. Given these conditions, I'm pretty certain this is the case. Another thing to keep in mind is the natural distribution of things like IQ and overall competency. We hear all about the go-getter women these days, but, no amount of propaganda can alleviate the effects of bell curve distributions. As such, for every low status man there is a low status woman too. Again, this reality is obscured by today's social engineers.

Females progressively get worse as they age. Men tend to age more like wine. Females enjoy the benefit of the male sex drive, which means an otherwise un-attractive female with a identical overall desirability score to an incel male will likely not be a incel, because, there's always a male willing to substitute quality to get his rocks off. However, this effect last only so long. For instance, as the respective peer group ages libido changes and the peer group starts to marry etc. And the willing cohort of men that would have once lowered their standard to go with a lower status female can access the younger females. This all makes for many females incels. Importantly, the dynamic shifts with age. Young females enjoy sexual power over males. As the female ages and passes through "the wall" they lose this appeal. Men will prefer younger females over the aging ones.

A) It's one of the reasons the only women who I have actively seen approach men are the one's in their 30s +

B) If a women get's 'pumped and dumped' but does not lock down a male for an LTR at least she basically is an "incel" in female terms. Women who are alone feel at lore more worse than men who are alone. Human Biology & natural survival instincts proves this.

C) The only way to reverse this is by returning to a conservative culture that takes pride in Family and worshipping God.
 
I believe the rise in femcels and (pseudo-)lesbians is a lack of feminine role models and understanding of how to treat men, which results in lack of or bad experiences with the opposite sex. More often than not do they hate their being female and try to mentally and/or physically imitate a man. Their antagonization of men is really self-hatred in disguise. They blame their failure as women on men, in which the source of the problem is some trauma from family or environment they grew up in.

Source: I met too many girls like that, more often than not they were quite beautiful but men (including me) had trouble seeing them in a sexual way - meaning we didn't see them as real women. They want to open up to men but their hatred and distrust is resulting them in sabotaging any possible relationship.

It is a tragedy, the best girl I met had this one significant hang-up which renders her dysfunctional for any romantic relationship with men. In a couple of years she will be 30 and likely single. It is a shame to see a girl like her to become bitter and crazy due to lack of being grounded in her femininity and lack of being honest to herself.

The rise in Lesbianism is most likely due to porn consumption. In fact I am pretty sure of it.

Anyway speaking of No Fap i found this from an interesting reddit post from a Female who decided to stop fapping:




Suprise, Suprise. It looks like all those crazy bitchy women you might come across who give you attitude just because you are a normal hetrosexual male, yoga pants wearers, masculine "alpha women" etc.. are watching Pornhub Smut on a daily basis. This info is actually good to casually troll them in the future. "so what do you like to watch on your laptop after work Rebbecca?", "What Internet services are you subscribed to?" etc..
 
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CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
When I read the thread title. I thought it may pertain to younger girls who emulate the stereotypical male nerd.

IE, stay at home all day, play video games all day, use Uber Eats etc., & live a supposed "life" via the internet.
All interactions, all "friends" are online. Yet there's no guarantee that these "friends" have ever met in person.

I would not be surprised if there is also a rise in the number of young girls who simply "live" online; especially after all the quarantine / lockdown nonsense.
 
When I read the thread title. I thought it may pertain to younger girls who emulate the stereotypical male nerd.

IE, stay at home all day, play video games all day, use Uber Eats etc., & live a supposed "life" via the internet.
All interactions, all "friends" are online. Yet there's no guarantee that these "friends" have ever met in person.

I would not be surprised if there is also a rise in the number of young girls who simply "live" online; especially after all the quarantine / lockdown nonsense.

There has been a recent campaign from feminists to make tackling "street harassment" in the UK a priority. Some of this includes writing down words that have been said to them that they consider to be "harassment" in Chalk on a pavement. Taking a photo of it and uploading it online for the woke SJW echochamber to pat each other on the back.

I have looked at some of these causes of "harassment" and they are no different than a man casually walking up to a woman they find attractive and saying "hi you look nice, my name is xyz".

I firmly believe that there are more woman than ever before living socially awkward online lives therefore they consider anything a man says to them in real life "harrassment" as they do not know how to socialize with the opposite sex in a proper calibrated and elegant feminine manner. Younger women are increasingly becoming similar to their socially awkward young male peers.

Now I understand if the guy was using "daygame" approach this is not good. But in many cases it could be a Christian guy looking for an LTR potential and approaching a woman he finds attractive on the street outside as he does not want to spend his life using demonic and satanic online dating which is full of women in sexual poses.
 

Blade Runner

Pelican
We are seeing mass delusion and confusion. That's really all you need to know, and that it's been a steady onslaught of propaganda and indoctrination with a burgeoning technocracy. People having welfare kids and/or not any real family formation or values is why so many lack healthy points of view. That and survival not being an issue (for now) has led generally to dysgenic societies, especially in big cities.
 
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