Are women naturally tidy/ clean?

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Timoteo

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Also, we need to make a distinction between messy, and just flat-out dirty and/or nasty. If you've got some stuff laying around, and maybe haven't dusted or vacuumed in a little while, that's messy. If you've got spills/beverage rings on the tables, crumbs and old food laying about, and flies buzzing around the kitchen because you haven't emptied the garbage, that's dirty/nasty. If your bedroom smells funky because of dirty clothes laying around or in the hamper forever, that's dirty/nasty. There are two areas of your domicile that simply can't be less than clean - the bathroom and the kitchen. If those two places aren't reasonably clean, you're a nasty fuck. Other areas of the house, particularly your bedroom, can look "lived in," and only required some tidying up to receive company. If you've got to do a full-fledged scrubbing to make it presentable, you're nasty.
 
No, women are not NATURALLY tidy/clean. They are taught or, in the case of American women, were taught to always maintain a clean environment by their mothers, grandmothers, etc. However, being taught something has nothing to do with nature.

Asaxon said:
Having dated and been to a few dozen houses of western females I am still astonished how messy, outright dirty ( bathroom!) and cluttered a lot of their residences are. On average I would say that my male friends keep their places in much better shape.

These two sentences should have answered your question. If women were NATURALLY tidy/clean, they would be naturally inclined to straighten up after themselves regardless of the environment. The reason why many don't is because they haven't been taught. Again, being taught something has nothing to do with nature. If no one ever got/get on women about tidiness, many would never clean up.
 
Timoteo said:
Also, we need to make a distinction between messy, and just flat-out dirty and/or nasty. If you've got some stuff laying around, and maybe haven't dusted or vacuumed in a little while, that's messy. If you've got spills/beverage rings on the tables, crumbs and old food laying about, and flies buzzing around the kitchen because you haven't emptied the garbage, that's dirty/nasty. If your bedroom smells funky because of dirty clothes laying around or in the hamper forever, that's dirty/nasty. There are two areas of your domicile that simply can't be less than clean - the bathroom and the kitchen. If those two places aren't reasonably clean, you're a nasty fuck. Other areas of the house, particularly your bedroom, can look "lived in," and only required some tidying up to receive company. If you've got to do a full-fledged scrubbing to make it presentable, you're nasty.

This reminds me of when I went over to this chick's place in my apartment complex. I stepped into her apartment, and immediately the place looked like a mess, and smelled a little bit too. I walked with her to the kitchen and sat down on a chair. I talked to her as she made a couple drinks, and in the background I watched a couple black bugs walking around on the wall. They were coming down from some hole behind the cabinet, and then up into another one.

We decided to take the drinks back to my place.
 

Screwston

 
Banned
I think women used to be more tidy and clean than men because they took care of the homes and all that. My grandma and mom are both real clean like that. The current generation of girls is nothing like that though. Most have disgusting places and shit all in their car. Guys have to keep their cribs somewhat nice if they're constantly bringing girls over, but broads can have maggots infesting the place and will still get fucked there.
 

Vitriol

Pelican
Has anyone else ever been on a female floor or building in a dorm on an American university campus? Most of their rooms are cluttered with junk that they don't need and excess clothing. Many of these rooms are fucking disgusting.

I'm sure a lot of it comes from immaturity and the fact that their parents aren't around to bitch at them to clean up for the first time in their lives, but damn... I know my living space was always relatively clean when I was in a dorm.
 

Sombro

Ostrich
Agnostic
At home, a woman's bathroom is generally cleaner than a man's bathroom.

As for public rest rooms, the situation reverses. (Custodians/janitors have assured me, and I've seen it myself doing crap jobs during college.)

Is there some psychology to this?
Maybe it's a variation of the "tragedy of the commons".
 

Screwston

 
Banned
Also, girls will try to trash my place or car without thinking because it's 2nd nature to them. Throwing shit on the car floor like I wont notice, splashing water and soap all over the counter and mirror, etc. Then they'll have the audacity to say I'm acting like a girl when I call them out lol. Nah bitch, you're just acting like a pig and thinking this is your shithole home.
 

Asaxon

 
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houston said:
Also, girls will try to trash my place or car without thinking because it's 2nd nature to them. Throwing shit on the car floor like I wont notice, splashing water and soap all over the counter and mirror, etc. Then they'll have the audacity to say I'm acting like a girl when I call them out lol. Nah bitch, you're just acting like a pig and thinking this is your shithole home.

Sounds like a general sense of entitlement and lack of consideration. After being told " you go girrrrl" for years it might just be natural to them.
 

Surreyman

Kingfisher
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Bull fucking shit.

I remember using this girls shower one time, it was covered in hair from shaving. I'm lying in bed, and i ask her why she doesn't clean out her shower.

her: 'Why would you say that?'

me: 'Why would you leave it like that?'

ROFL
 

le prince perdu

Woodpecker
I think it all comes down to culture

For example in my family the women are extremely clean,
I grew up in a household where the females couldn't have their underwear laying around anywhere!!! That shit needs to be washed before/after you take a shower. Also when a girl was older than 12 she could not eat breakfast before making her bed,brushing her hair, take a shower and all of that. The dish that you use needed to be cleaned right after using it, there should not be anything in the sink. Also each girl had a day of the week when she had to cook, if her food tasted like crap she would become the mockery of the house until next week to redeem herself.

As you can Imagine all of my cousins/sisters are super clean, amazing cooks, super feminine and all the good stuff.

The boys also had to be clean, make their bed and stuff but my mom/grandma/aunts were not as strict with us as with the girls.

Basically I grew up with this picture of females as being extremely clean in general and great cooks.

I then came to the U.S and saw tampons in the sink and shit like that :sick:

I have been cleaner than most of the girls I have been with in the U.S and it is not something I am proud to say.

Hell I don't even know what my mom would say if she could see how messy the girls I date are.



So to answer the Op's question, from my point of view yes women are naturally tidy/clean.
The west just happens to be wearing its pants backward
 

jaakkeli

 
Banned
I've noticed that female messiness has a direct correlation with sluttiness. I don't know if that is because of upbringing or whether it's some personality issue (less impulsive people are less messy and less slutty?) or something else, but it's a definite pattern in my experience. Any one night stand is going to have a total mess at home but if I meet a woman some other way it's often neat to a point that I would have a hard time reaching even if I spent a whole day cleaning.

With guys it's probably the other way around, I wouldn't tidy up nearly as much if I didn't expect to have women visiting.
 

NYJ

Kingfisher
All the women at work wonder how I keep my car clean. To which I reply "I thought you guys are supposed to superior to us in that" with a shit eating grin on my face.
 

Timoteo

Crow
NYJ said:
All the women at work wonder how I keep my car clean. To which I reply "I thought you guys are supposed to superior to us in that" with a shit eating grin on my face.

Like this is some great mystery, or requires some special skill! Bitch, you just pick up garbage and vacuum! If you spill something, maybe you'll have to shampoo it!
 

NYJ

Kingfisher
Timoteo said:
NYJ said:
All the women at work wonder how I keep my car clean. To which I reply "I thought you guys are supposed to superior to us in that" with a shit eating grin on my face.

Like this is some great mystery, or requires some special skill! Bitch, you just pick up garbage and vacuum! If you spill something, maybe you'll have to shampoo it!

It's crazy bro. My boss always remarks about how I keep my car so clean. Any dude that still believes that women are inherently cleaner cause they're women still hasn't digested the red pill.
 

M3B

Ostrich
Gold Member
I've hardly ever gone to a girl's where the bed's been made before I get there. I always see their fucking annoying little hair clips and clothes spewed everywhere, half full cups laid around everywhere and all her useless shit like paperwork and old boxes of every day stuff littered around in places. They're always fucking messy, even the best looking chicks are slobs.
 

Lemmo

 
Banned
le prince perdu said:
So to answer the Op's question, from my point of view yes women are naturally tidy/clean.
The west just happens to be wearing its pants backward

There are a lot of sloppy Japanese girls too so it isn't just in the West. I think it the rich world they follow the path of too much attention=spoiled=sense of entitlement=unwillingness to take care of themselves.

Of course, as always, the Japanese put their own spin on sloppiness http://www.odditycentral.com/news/u...ear-diapers-to-avoid-going-to-the-toilet.html
 
Women in the Third World may lack First World opulence but they make up for it in taking pride for what little they have, especially their meager dwellings. Floors so polished you would'nt think twice about eating food spilled on it added to a Spartan living where everything is in its right place and serve a purpose.
 
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