Asteroid Impact That Killed the Dinosaurs: New Evidence

[Mercenary]

So your telling me in you believe in dragons that are hundreds of years old with no evidence but paintings and aetifacts but don't believe in dinosaurs with all kinds of fossils when the artwork looks very similar to a lot of dinosaurs. Hmmmmm.

The theory I am putting forth for discussion is that the bone fragments and fossils that exist today may be a lot younger than they are telling us, and the creatures they represent are not what they portray in today's artwork and movies.

The dragon creature is present on ancient temples, in ancient churches and on ancient aboriginal artworks all on different parts of the planet, yet since the late 19th century we are basically saying all those men who sculpted and painted those things were frauds and were stupid to believe in something fake. Thats pretty insulting to the intelligence of those hundreds of generations of men that lived before us and dedicated their lives to fighting these beasts.

I think it's time to re-examine what exactly these ancient generations of men (who I believe were just as smart as we are) were depicting in their respective religions. To adopt a dismissive & negative knee jerk attitude towards ancient beliefs just because they are old is very naiive.

 

[weambulance]

I'm pretty sure the only one here suggesting that mythology is stupid is you.

Just because I know their myths were wrong, it doesn't mean I look down on them or think they were stupid. I have the advantage of centuries more scientific knowledge.

The only way dinosaur fossils are actually young remains of dragons is if the entire science of geology is completely wrong.

 

[Vaun]

The dragon creature is present on ancient temples, in ancient churches and on ancient aboriginal artworks all on different parts of the planet, yet since the late 19th century we are basically saying all those men who sculpted and painted those things were frauds and were stupid to believe in something fake. Thats pretty insulting to the intelligence of those hundreds of generations of men that lived before us and dedicated their lives to fighting these beasts.

Organized religion? Christianity behaving in the 1800-1900's behaving like we see ISIS today? We discussed this in another thread, but its similar to the giant skeletons that have mostly all disappeared at the time they were found in the 1800's as American farmland was cleared.

 

[Repo]

A different theory discusses the idea that large land animals such dragons were very real, but are not millions of years old, but rather are only a few thousands years old. This would explain how the myth of the dragon exists in so many different (non connected) human cultures across the globe.

Here is a indie documenatary examining legends of "dragons" in various parts of the globe, (for instance Alexander the Great seeing dragons in India, the Chinese myths of the woman Nüwa and the man Fuxi driving dragons out of China, as well as quotes from old scientific books from the 1500s saying that dragons were rare but still existed) as well as interviews with modern researchers (geologists) who have examined and cut open dinosaur (dragon ?) bones and disagree with the official scientific narrative.






We take so much of what we think we know since childhood at face value without ever questioning it, so I think these questions are important to examine and ponder.

Also, the fact that dinosaurs are powerfully and relentlessly marketed to children as "fun entertainment" is what makes me most suspicious.
The stuff we grow up with and have the most nostalgic childhood attachemnts to, is often the things we are most reluctant to admit were false.

Are we going to pretend that dragons aren't also marketed to kids?

 

[realologist]

So your telling me in you believe in dragons that are hundreds of years old with no evidence but paintings and aetifacts but don't believe in dinosaurs with all kinds of fossils when the artwork looks very similar to a lot of dinosaurs. Hmmmmm.

The theory I am putting forth for discussion is that the bone fragments and fossils that exist today may be a lot younger than they are telling us, and the creatures they represent are not what they portray in today's artwork and movies.

The dragon creature is present on ancient temples, in ancient churches and on ancient aboriginal artworks all on different parts of the planet, yet since the late 19th century we are basically saying all those men who sculpted and painted those things were frauds and were stupid to believe in something fake. Thats pretty insulting to the intelligence of those hundreds of generations of men that lived before us and dedicated their lives to fighting these beasts.

I think it's time to re-examine what exactly these ancient generations of men (who I believe were just as smart as we are) were depicting in their respective religions. To adopt a dismissive & negative knee jerk attitude towards ancient beliefs just because they are old is very naiive.

Nice way to put words in my mouth. Nobody called our ancestors stupid frauds. There are just many things misunderstood at that time due to scientific knowledge available. Most are simple cases of misidentification.

Modern humans we can all agree are older than what is typically stated.

So if we agree on that lets tackle the Aboriginal dragon. Megalania. An ancestor of the Komodo dragon except 18ft long and 1200lbs. Could easily eat men and looks like a dragon.

 

[weambulance]

...And then you have all the other big reptiles that could feed the dragon myths. Alligators. Crocodiles. Big ass snakes.

Things are always made larger in the retelling. Before long you have a dragon the size of a house.

I have no reason to believe humans weren't lying their asses off hundreds of years ago about how big the "dragon" they killed or saw was, the same way people do today. New forced perspective pictures of dead "giant bears" show up every single year.

 

[Repo]

We need to investigate the loch ness monster next. We must find and destroy the monster before the Nessy alliance can cast a protective spell over our underwater nemesis.

 

[realologist]

We need to investigate the loch ness monster next. We must find and destroy the monster before the Nessy alliance can cast a protective spell over our underwater nemesis.

Don't post this. You know Nessie had an alliance with Big Foot and he can read. Probably scouring the form plotting his return from the underside of the flat earth with el chupa cabra.

 

[Mercenary]

Are we going to pretend that dragons aren't also marketed to kids?

Dragons are marketed to kids...but as something fake.
Also, most marketing nowadays is positively orientated towards dragons, wheras in most world religions it was a symbol of either evil and fear, or the devil/satan, or a secret occult power.

For instance, in the christian story of St George and the Dragon, the pagan people in Libya who worshipped it were feeding it sacrifices....first animals, then virgin girls, and finally small children and babies. St George was horrified when he saw this and promised to kill it with his roman soldiers if all the pagans swore they would convert to Christianity. Notice the skulls and dead bodies in this ancient artwork below.

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A similiar story of human sacrifices to big serpents and dragons can also be found in the Portugese and Spanish conquerors who arrived in the americas in the 1500s. Apprently both the Aztecs & Mayas in Mexico and Incas in Peru were also making sacrifices to "Dragons" or "Dragon Gods" and this was one of the reasons why the europeans were so disgusted they killed most of them.

And today we have threads on RVF with endless rumours of people into satanism who might be abusing children both in hollywood and in washington with pizzagate. The similiarities are not coincidental in my eyes.

 

[Mekorig]

First time i heard the Incas making sacrifies to "Dragon Gods". And actualy their sacrifices were more in the "lets drug some virgins with coca and chicha and left them to mumify in a high mountain" than in "lets rip their heart out". Also, i you check mesoamerican myth, the only dragon-like diety is basically Quetzalcoatl (and mostly its feathered serpent wing was more simbolic than anything else).

 

[Mercenary]

First time i heard the Incas making sacrifies to "Dragon Gods". And actualy their sacrifices were more in the "lets drug some virgins with coca and chicha and left them to mumify in a high mountain" than in "lets rip their heart out". Also, i you check mesoamerican myth, the only dragon-like diety is basically Quetzalcoatl (and mostly its feathered serpent wing was more simbolic than anything else).

Amaru was the name the the Incas used in Peru.
Quetzalcoatl was the Aztec name in Mexico
Kukulkan was the Maya name in Mexico.


Different names and slightly different forms....always the same evil creature.

 

[Mercenary]

A longer list of Dragon names across human cultures is here:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dragons_in_mythology_and_folklore

 

[Leonard D Neubache]

I'm not sure what's sadder.

"Dinosaurs didn't exist but dragons did" or smart and highly repped members wasting their time trying to educate the one forum member that Alex Jones would distance himself from.

What's more, Mercenary isn't simply content to peddle his wing-nuttery in good humour but instead feels it necessary to label dissenters as "naive".

Mercenary's account may yet turn out to be the most deeply embedded troll account the RVF has ever seen. Possibly a creation of the venerated Suits. I only say this because I've never seen such a vast spectrum of tin foil hattery emanate from a person who didn't explode and ninja-vanish when their bizarre claims were rebuked with concentrated fact-shaming.

 

[weambulance]

I like debunking theories like this. It reminds me of my TA days, fun stuff.

You know, for a couple hours anyway.

 

[Mercenary]

I'm not sure what's sadder.

"Dinosaurs didn't exist but dragons did" or smart and highly repped members wasting their time trying to educate the one forum member that Alex Jones would distance himself from.

What's more, Mercenary isn't simply content to peddle his wing-nuttery in good humour but instead feels it necessary to label dissenters as "naive".

Mercenary's account may yet turn out to be the most deeply embedded troll account the RVF has ever seen. Possibly a creation of the venerated Suits. I only say this because I've never seen such a vast spectrum of tin foil hattery emanate from a person who didn't explode and ninja-vanish when their bizarre claims were rebuked with concentrated fact-shaming.

That's quite an accusation coming from a member with a rep of 95, but not 1 single one of those is for a meetup with another RVF member in the real world.

The more than 15 RVF members who have met me in real life know I'm legit, and many of those who haven't still take the time to put in a word of appreciation for the work I put in to help other men, especially with regard to helping them overcome unhealthy addictions.

It's a shame you just like scoring points by keyboard jockeying rather than actually getting off your ass and doing something for the community offline rather than spending all your time gaslighting me in various threads.

 

[Leonard D Neubache]

I'd be quite happy to ignore your bizarre theories except that you go out of your way to insult other members rather than play the ball, and that makes you fair game.

And I'm thrilled to hear that you've met other members and help people out in the world, but that doesn't give you a free pass to shit on people because they believe the world is round, that dinosaurs existed and that dragons didn't, that the LHC was not built to create a portal to hell and that North Korea is not a utopian wonderland.

People have repped me because what I say makes sense. You might want to take that into consideration.

 

[Mercenary]

I'd be quite happy to ignore your bizarre theories except that you go out of your way to insult other members rather than play the ball, and that makes you fair game.

And I'm thrilled to hear that you've met other members and help people out in the world, but that doesn't give you a free pass to shit on people because they believe the world is round, that dinosaurs existed and that dragons didn't, that the LHC was not built to create a portal to hell and that North Korea is not a utopian wonderland.

What are you talking about ?
I have not insulted a single member personaly. Not here and not in the other threads you mentioned.
If that were the case I would have already gotten several warnings.
False accusation.

 

[weambulance]

Dropping oxygen levels are consistant with a large meteor strike as the dust clouds would wipe out plants too.

I don't think the difference would be large enough to detect in the geologic record, because I don't think the dust would stick around long enough.

Dust doesn't just float in the air for years. It comes down in rain. That's why raindrops form: the dust motes are basically sites for moisture to precipitate out of the air.

I'm not saying the meteor had nothing at all to do with things. I just think saying the meteor alone was the cause is crap and doesn't fit the evidence. It might've been the straw that broke the camel's back, or maybe it set up unfavorable conditions that other things like lava flows amplified. I'm sure it wasn't just benign.

 

[Comte De St. Germain]

I'm not sure what's sadder.

"Dinosaurs didn't exist but dragons did" or smart and highly repped members wasting their time trying to educate the one forum member that Alex Jones would distance himself from.

What's more, Mercenary isn't simply content to peddle his wing-nuttery in good humour but instead feels it necessary to label dissenters as "naive".

Mercenary's account may yet turn out to be the most deeply embedded troll account the RVF has ever seen. Possibly a creation of the venerated Suits. I only say this because I've never seen such a vast spectrum of tin foil hattery emanate from a person who didn't explode and ninja-vanish when their bizarre claims were rebuked with concentrated fact-shaming.

I love being right.

 

[Repo]

Dropping oxygen levels are consistant with a large meteor strike as the dust clouds would wipe out plants too.

I don't think the difference would be large enough to detect in the geologic record, because I don't think the dust would stick around long enough.

Dust doesn't just float in the air for years. It comes down in rain. That's why raindrops form: the dust motes are basically sites for moisture to precipitate out of the air.

I'm not saying the meteor had nothing at all to do with things. I just think saying the meteor alone was the cause is crap and doesn't fit the evidence. It might've been the straw that broke the camel's back, or maybe it set up unfavorable conditions that other things like lava flows amplified. I'm sure it wasn't just benign.

Nah their are actually studies that say it would last for years given a big enough meteor. Same for certain supervolcanoes suspected of also causing mass extinction events. We are talking large enough to literally send dirt flying into outer space, above where most clouds form. Also, the largest asteroid impacts would set off volcanoes around the world.

On phone so can't dig too much for links, but heres one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater