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<blockquote data-quote="asdfk" data-source="post: 1179345" data-attributes="member: 10035">I have spend hours listening to older women talking about their IVF procedures and the toll it took on their lives. Additionally, I got to listen in on older women who never conceived grief about what never happened. The article above is well-written but it makes it sound like a &quot;journey&quot;, something that was hard but meaningful. And it includes a&nbsp; happy ending, with the author coming at peace with what happened. That's not reality. Reality is 99% physical pain and emotional suffering before, during and after the procedure... with no guarantee of a healthy, non-handicapped baby being born.Despite having to listen to their stories about their suffering for hours, I do not feel pity. Not because their suffering was not significant and painful to watch, because it was. All the women who told me these stories were on the lower end of the &quot;agreeableness&quot; scale. Verbally dominant, outright combative if something doesn't please them and usually with a sad excuse as a man for a boyfriend. The reality is that any male child born to them would have to struggle tremendously, maybe for the rest of his life, to transcend an upbringing by such a cold and hard mother. If he is not born with birth defects to begin with.Ofcourse, when a woman like that indeed got a handicapped child she would wallow in self-pity. They were unable to pay any attention let alone love the suffering and damaged being in her arms. due to their temperament, their own emotional distress being more important to them.It's truly horrifying to watch.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="asdfk, post: 1179345, member: 10035"] I have spend hours listening to older women talking about their IVF procedures and the toll it took on their lives. Additionally, I got to listen in on older women who never conceived grief about what never happened. The article above is well-written but it makes it sound like a "journey", something that was hard but meaningful. And it includes a happy ending, with the author coming at peace with what happened. That's not reality. Reality is 99% physical pain and emotional suffering before, during and after the procedure... with no guarantee of a healthy, non-handicapped baby being born. Despite having to listen to their stories about their suffering for hours, I do not feel pity. Not because their suffering was not significant and painful to watch, because it was. All the women who told me these stories were on the lower end of the "agreeableness" scale. Verbally dominant, outright combative if something doesn't please them and usually with a sad excuse as a man for a boyfriend. The reality is that any male child born to them would have to struggle tremendously, maybe for the rest of his life, to transcend an upbringing by such a cold and hard mother. If he is not born with birth defects to begin with. Ofcourse, when a woman like that indeed got a handicapped child she would wallow in self-pity. They were unable to pay any attention let alone love the suffering and damaged being in her arms. due to their temperament, their own emotional distress being more important to them. It's truly horrifying to watch. [/QUOTE]

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