At what age did you feel old/ a certain urgency to succeed ?

[TheThinker]

At 23 for a brief week or two, then at 26 for maybe a month, and not again until 30. Now I just feel it, but it's better to realize you aren't satisfed with your current situation earlier rather than later. I know what I'm disatisfied about and I'm working hard to meet my goals. I cut out drinking and going out from 4 days a week to once a month. I made healthier changes and while I still feel it, I'm glad that I'm not wasting time on things that ultimately have little value. Everthing is done deliberately now and appreciated on a whole new level. I realize that neither luck nor someone else is going to do this for me. I also know that the nagging feeling of getting old is my mind telling me that I'm not using my gifts but instead following a journey that's not my own. It's telling me to change lanes.

 

[TornadoByProxy]

Old man look at my life,
Twenty four and there's so much more
Live alone in a paradise
That makes me think of two.

Neil Young(1970)

 

[Badamson]

I turned 24 in October and have since been feeling this intense urgency to succeed, find ultimate purpose and leave a legacy. I also all of a sudden do not feel young anymore. Is this normal ? If it is, at what age did any of you start feeling this way ?

Thanks

I would say I felt that way at about age 23 or 24. I think it's pretty normal. Having said that, now I'm almost 37, and I realize that when I was 24 I was really young and in my prime. Now that I'm in my 30's and have increasing health issues and am just generally "battle weary," I really long for the days when I was 24. Like, I didn't know how good I had it! Just to wake up and have trivial concerns about girls or what bands I want to check out.

I will say that 24 to 34 goes by way quicker than young people think. 2002 seems like yesterday to me. My advice is to get things done, but don't stress or get depressed about it. You'll have plenty of real things to worry about when you get older.

 

[3stripedlakeshadow]

24 here, and yeah, it's going to suck going to college next year to complete my degree, I look younger than my age though, so yeah, I guess I have that going for me, it's do well in school, maintain my body, and fuck as many girls as possible until I can't get it up anymore. The way we age, has really changed, or at least that's what one of my brothers friends told me, who is 27, commenting that people in my age bracket look like 19 year olds, I guess something is happening, or just good genes. I don't really worry, because I don't want to have a family, and I could care less what society thinks of me, fucking every college girl in sight (when I do get older, and keep in shape and what not).

 

[Kieran]

Sure, you can still have sex with hot younger women when you're older. But your opportunities to do so will decrease and you'll have to work harder to get them.

Really?

Every older player I've met has been doing well with young girls and has told me their experiences have only gotten better as they age, as in young girls are more into them and their quality has also increased.

I'd agree that opportunities will decrease (no matter how skilled a player is at 40 he will not have the opportunities that a 20 year old at college will), but that difficulty will increase not exactly. Well to a certain point right, that's why we take care of ourselves so that if we choose to we can still be killing it into the 40's and 50's.

In short, the older player will approach less hot young girls, but pull more.

I don't really agree with this. I'd personally much rather be 18-21 again as there's nothing easier than getting girls of the same age through college and social circle. I'm far better on paper now at 30 than I was at 20, and yet I was banging lots of quality at that age by just going out and having fun, whereas I'm working a lot harder now to keep that going and I'm still relatively young (24+ has become a lot easier though, but they're not the same).

The experience that comes with age really helps with game though, and somewhat makes up for being older I suppose, but all things being equal, I'd say it's a lot easier to get 18 year old pussy when you're still young.

Of course it's possible to be an exception (see Giovonny who I think is nearing 40), but from what I see looking around it's very rare and takes more effort than it does for a good looking and confident 20 year old.

 

[SteveMcMahon]

Sure, you can still have sex with hot younger women when you're older. But your opportunities to do so will decrease and you'll have to work harder to get them.

Really?

Every older player I've met has been doing well with young girls and has told me their experiences have only gotten better as they age, as in young girls are more into them and their quality has also increased.

I'd agree that opportunities will decrease (no matter how skilled a player is at 40 he will not have the opportunities that a 20 year old at college will), but that difficulty will increase not exactly. Well to a certain point right, that's why we take care of ourselves so that if we choose to we can still be killing it into the 40's and 50's.

In short, the older player will approach less hot young girls, but pull more.

I don't really agree with this. I'd personally much rather be 18-21 again as there's nothing easier than getting girls of the same age through college and social circle. I'm far better on paper now at 30 than I was at 20, and yet I was banging lots of quality at that age by just going out and having fun, whereas I'm working a lot harder now to keep that going and I'm still relatively young (24+ has become a lot easier though, but they're not the same).

The experience that comes with age really helps with game though, and somewhat makes up for being older I suppose, but all things being equal, I'd say it's a lot easier to get 18 year old pussy when you're still young.

Of course it's possible to be an exception (see Giovonny who I think is nearing 40), but from what I see looking around it's very rare and takes more effort than it does for a good looking and confident 20 year old.

Yes.

A 40 year old with game will bang more than a 20 year old with no game.

But all other things being equal, the 20 year old has far easier access to quality (i.e. young) trim.

Unless you're foetus-boy here.

Unless you're rich or famous or have a lot of natural charm, you'll have to work harder to bang hot 19 year olds when you're 40 compared to when you were younger.

You have to avoid or overcome the "ewww creepy older guy!" cockblocking that her friends will deploy. And you will have to work a bit more on your soft skills to hold relateable conversations with girls a generation younger than you - when you're about the same age you have more in common without going to any effort: same bands, school experience, etc.

To use a sales metaphor:

* Leads - in your early 20's, you're swimming in quality potential bangs. In your 30's/early 40's, you probably won't be, unless your lifestyle or career brings you into contact with a lot of younger women.

* Opportunities - you'll have less free time and more responsibility when you're older, so you need to be smarter about which leads you can realistically convert to opportunities. Going out every Monday night to party at the student union isn't a realistic option any more.

* Closing - you should be better at closing with age and experience, which helps offset having fewer leads to begin with.

Pussy is for closers.

Another thing is your energy levels. At 20 I could party till the sun came up, get a couple of hours sleep, then be ready to do it all over again by the evening.

In my mid-30's, I really appreciate the benefits of a good night's sleep.

 

[lskdfjldsf]

This may seem counterproductive but don't rush too fast. Slow down and pace yourself.

I made the mistake of accomplishing too much too quickly. Military service, college football, degree, playing an instrument on stage, mastering a foreign language, living in 2 countries, etc. by the age of 23. Now I'm 26 and have no fucking clue what to do in life - no more challenges, no more goals.

 

[LeightonBlackstock]

Gonna be 24 at the end of the month

In the UK - at that age, after university, and in the 'blue-pill' mindset - I would feel old as hell

However, I'm very happy to see that I still have at least 10 years of this shit without a size-able decrease (Providing my hair doesn't fall out/I don't get fat. Still one would just hit the gym/get a transplant)

This is probably the age where I can't dine out on being 'young' anymore. But hell, learning some Thai counteracts that

There are still so many girls without the piss-poor attitudes of those in the Anglo-sphere, and there still will be for many years

 

[Glaucon]

All my damn life.

 

[JoyStick]

This may seem counterproductive but don't rush too fast. Slow down and pace yourself.

I made the mistake of accomplishing too much too quickly. Military service, college football, degree, playing an instrument on stage, mastering a foreign language, living in 2 countries, etc. by the age of 23. Now I'm 26 and have no fucking clue what to do in life - no more challenges, no more goals.

real subtle humble bragging.. nice :thumbup:

you should give me all your money so you can have goals again.

 

[El Chinito loco]

Gonna be 24 at the end of the month

In the UK - at that age, after university, and in the 'blue-pill' mindset - I would feel old as hell

However, I'm very happy to see that I still have at least 10 years of this shit without a size-able decrease (Providing my hair doesn't fall out/I don't get fat. Still one would just hit the gym/get a transplant)

This is probably the age where I can't dine out on being 'young' anymore. But hell, learning some Thai counteracts that

There are still so many girls without the piss-poor attitudes of those in the Anglo-sphere, and there still will be for many years

You young guys are lucky in a way because all this knowledge and ease of travel is available in the present. Then again I don't think many U.S./U.K./Aussie millenials have ever had the chance to see a woman behave like a woman in their own countries growing up. So there's a negative trade off there. I'm probably part of the last generation for that.

I won't look a gift horse in the mouth though, even discovering this late in life it's still been good.

I'd say you have a good 16-20 years left if you take good care of yourself.

 

[The Beast1]

23 was when I started feeling old. I started getting the dreaded 2 day hang over. I was hoping I could at least party on until my late 20s. Guess I was wrong.

Strangely enough at that point I started taking my health, fitness, and educational pursuits more seriously. I now know what questions I need to ask in order to get better results from teachers.

 

[Meadowlark]

31 right after my LTR fell apart. Don't let the depression drag you down.

 

[Exquirenoir]

At 26 When I had to move back to moms due to my financial/work fvck ups. I don't need to tell you that how much that messed up your pussy stream.Need less to say...IM on the come up once again .

 

[Travesty]

29 this year. Noticed my hair thinning a bit in front got on a hair saving regiment and noticed my first tiny marks of forehead wrinkles and a tiny feeling of face sag which I never felt before 28. Also have more than a few grey hairs I dye once every few weeks.

Told myself now if I do nightlife I drink extremely light maybe 1 drink the entire night. Focus on game or making connections and not getting drunk. No more cigarettes. No more smoking pot (I now vape). No more sun tanning. Hats, sunglasses, and sunblock. Exercise every damn day. Vegetable, fruits, ACV, coconut oil, amino collagen every damn day. No more fast food. It used to be a treat, now I am done, I can feel my older body just rejecting it and not being able to down McDonald's like it's nothing.

I won't be young forever, I need $ and power in my corner to keep this going with young chicks for the foreseeable future. Might as well start now! I recently slept with a 28 year old that looked 23 overall except in certain lights and angles and body parts she looked closer to 30 if you studied her closely. She felt old to me. I love young pussy too much it is a curse.

Also 30 years from now if the world is still in existence I am certain there will be genetic enhancements and anti-aging therapies that you will want $ for more than any piece of real estate, clothing, vehicle, or boat.

 

[Cr33pin]

Since I jumped out the womb

Since I saw my first Lamborghini as a kid with doors that opened up in the air.... it was in that moment that I knew I needed to be the man.
(never coped the Lambo but I had some dope rides and put some Lambo doors on a few of them)

As I got older my idea of sucess changed.. in my 20's I had lots of expensive toys and it wasnt all that great. So I traded them in for a traveling lifestyle which brings me more joy then any expensive worldly possesions of yesteryear ever did.

 

[MrLemon]

Fuck me. You guys are all young. Makes me feel fucking old.

Just for your info, you will REALLY feel the urgency to succeed when you're 50. At that point, you are facing serious mortality. Your sex drive decreases (or like me, you have your wife/kids and are happy with it).

 

[jariel]

Birth.

 

[Lucky]

24.

I realized I was unhappy in my career. I was doing well and excelling at my job but I didn't feel successful because I hated going to work every morning. I hated the people I was working with.

At 24 I began cold-emailing people who were involved in something I wanted to join. Many responded and one in particular helped set me on my current path to doing what I want.

It was hard to admit that I was halfway through my twenties and now I'm starting over. But then I realize how young I really am in comparison to so many middle-aged guys who are trapped with a wife and kids in a job they hate. Better to have realized a need for change now rather than later.

 

[ball dont lie]

28 or so. I had lived since graduating university in China learning Chinese, working 10 hours a week, studying, riding the shitty trains around the country sleeping in terrible holes in the walls in small cities, just seeing things.

Then I realized I wanted an easy life, forever. I started to work hard, save money and focus on happiness through spending little money.