Attack on Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines

2Infinity

Woodpecker
The Davos globalists have struck again, using some sort of bureaucratic apparatus and/or their pawns in Austria to stop the flow of gas into Italy through a portion of the other Yamal pipeline (conveniently after the election of Meloni who may at some point have struck a deal with Russia when things really get bad?) - of course it will be framed to look like "Russia turns off gas to Austria and Italy"...



Translated version:
"Gazprom announces that it is working with Italian gas buyers to solve the problem of the interruption of supplies. In a message on its Telegram channel, the company explained that "the transport of gas under the contracts through the territory of Austria has been suspended due to the refusal of the Austrian operator to confirm the transport appointments. The reason is related to the regulatory changes that took place in Austria at the end of September. Vienna, however, denied having a role in the supply problems to Italy"

Seems like they are desperate and really want to make SHTF over there in Europe.
 

Helmsman

Robin
Protestant
A blogger named LawDog recently published a pair of blog posts pointing a finger at the possibility of Methane Hydrate plugs being the culprit behind the explosions in both pipelines. I won't go into the details, the posts are pretty straightforward. I will say he's politically conservative and runs with the likes of Bayou Rennaissance Man who calls out the NWO and the great reset.


 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
The Davos globalists have struck again, using some sort of bureaucratic apparatus and/or their pawns in Austria to stop the flow of gas into Italy through a portion of the other Yamal pipeline (conveniently after the election of Meloni who may at some point have struck a deal with Russia when things really get bad?) - of course it will be framed to look like "Russia turns off gas to Austria and Italy"...



Translated version:
"Gazprom announces that it is working with Italian gas buyers to solve the problem of the interruption of supplies. In a message on its Telegram channel, the company explained that "the transport of gas under the contracts through the territory of Austria has been suspended due to the refusal of the Austrian operator to confirm the transport appointments. The reason is related to the regulatory changes that took place in Austria at the end of September. Vienna, however, denied having a role in the supply problems to Italy"

Seems like they are desperate and really want to make SHTF over there in Europe.

I could see both NATO and the EU breaking up over these energy conflicts. I understand the working theory is that the US wants to keep Europe weak, but do they really want to break up NATO and the EU?

I could imagine all the European countries suddenly being roused from their slumber and becoming extremely dynamic under this kind of conflict and stress.
 

rainy

Pelican
Other Christian
I could see both NATO and the EU breaking up over these energy conflicts. I understand the working theory is that the US wants to keep Europe weak, but do they really want to break up NATO and the EU?

I could imagine all the European countries suddenly being roused from their slumber and becoming extremely dynamic under this kind of conflict and stress.
Agree.

One of the future outcomes as with all ideologues, as we have seen with the radical liberals, is they at some point eat their own.

It will go from being a USA v Russia war to an economic and utilities war between EU and NATO members as sides are drawn.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
A blogger named LawDog recently published a pair of blog posts pointing a finger at the possibility of Methane Hydrate plugs being the culprit behind the explosions in both pipelines. I won't go into the details, the posts are pretty straightforward. I will say he's politically conservative and runs with the likes of Bayou Rennaissance Man who calls out the NWO and the great reset.



I don’t buy it because he’s asking us to buy a lot of coincidences. In this case the application of Occam’s Razor would lead us to conclude that the US did it. Because the scenario that relies on the fewest assumptions is that when the US said they would stop the pipeline, they meant they would stop the pipeline.


LawDog’s hypothesis requires us to make a large number of assumptions that are either not in evidence (that the US dropped its intent or that these “plugs” existed in the first place, or that they would produce an explosion in the size exactly matching a nice round number of pounds of explosives) or ones that are flat out ludicrous (that Russia is the same level of incompetent as they were in the late stage Soviet era).

And If it was an accident for a known reason, then why did NATO say it was sabotage?
 

2Infinity

Woodpecker
I could see both NATO and the EU breaking up over these energy conflicts. I understand the working theory is that the US wants to keep Europe weak, but do they really want to break up NATO and the EU?

I could imagine all the European countries suddenly being roused from their slumber and becoming extremely dynamic under this kind of conflict and stress.

I've briefly summarized Tom Luongo's views on this below, it makes the most sense to me at the moment based on what we are seeing, would recommend you listen to this recent podcast as he explains in more detail ->

1) Davos does not want the EU to break up but at the same time they cannot let individual European countries gain independence and self-governance, via a strong populist govt (and not puppet govts) - hence European countries must remain under the yoke of centralized control of the EU bureaucracy

2) Sabotage type actions like we are seeing to burn the bridge. + sanctions against Russian oil imports are to prevent any key players such as Germany / Italy from ever folding and making independent deals when the real pain comes in the winter

3) It is Davos that actually wants to keep America weak and continue printing money and they are doing this with the help of the Biden govt, many members of the Biden Admin are aligned with Davos.

4) However Wall Street/Fed/Powell/Commercial banks are actually opposed to Davos because Davos wants CBDC which in effect will kill the business of US Commercial banks who currently take their cut from being middle men between Fed/Govt and businesses/retail.

5) Wall St commercial bank cartel controls the Fed via Jerome "private equity" Powell - who is raising interest rates which in turn will break the EU (the EU cannot afford to raise their rates high) obviously its self-interest but they are still capitalistic at the core unlike the Davos EU types

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I cannot claim to know the full extent of their plans but whatever it is, it appears it does include bringing the European populations to their knees by restricting energy - perhaps similar to what we saw with covid lockdowns which led to the vax, the energy/food crisis may the a pre-stage where they are "whetting the appetite" of the target countries for their real goals, such as CBDC and more centralized control from their control mechanisms such as the EU/WEF/UN etc. there are other good theories also about needing to reset sovereign debt etc, basically covid + war would be a good cover for this. only time will tell.
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
A blogger named LawDog recently published a pair of blog posts pointing a finger at the possibility of Methane Hydrate plugs being the culprit behind the explosions in both pipelines. I won't go into the details, the posts are pretty straightforward. I will say he's politically conservative and runs with the likes of Bayou Rennaissance Man who calls out the NWO and the great reset.



This suggests that hydrate growth substantial enough to form a plug only happens in active lines. I thought the flow has been turned off for a while?


"The fastest natural rates apply to active systems with rapid heat and mass transfer. The slowest rates are associated with passive systems in which heat and mass transfer are conductive and diffusive, respectively, causing gas hydrate growth to become self-limiting."
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
I've briefly summarized Tom Luongo's views on this below, it makes the most sense to me at the moment based on what we are seeing, would recommend you listen to this recent podcast as he explains in more detail ->

1) Davos does not want the EU to break up but at the same time they cannot let individual European countries gain independence and self-governance, via a strong populist govt (and not puppet govts) - hence European countries must remain under the yoke of centralized control of the EU bureaucracy

2) Sabotage type actions like we are seeing to burn the bridge. + sanctions against Russian oil imports are to prevent any key players such as Germany / Italy from ever folding and making independent deals when the real pain comes in the winter

3) It is Davos that actually wants to keep America weak and continue printing money and they are doing this with the help of the Biden govt, many members of the Biden Admin are aligned with Davos.

4) However Wall Street/Fed/Powell/Commercial banks are actually opposed to Davos because Davos wants CBDC which in effect will kill the business of US Commercial banks who currently take their cut from being middle men between Fed/Govt and businesses/retail.

5) Wall St commercial bank cartel controls the Fed via Jerome "private equity" Powell - who is raising interest rates which in turn will break the EU (the EU cannot afford to raise their rates high) obviously its self-interest but they are still capitalistic at the core unlike the Davos EU types

......
I cannot claim to know the full extent of their plans but whatever it is, it appears it does include bringing the European populations to their knees by restricting energy - perhaps similar to what we saw with covid lockdowns which led to the vax, the energy/food crisis may the a pre-stage where they are "whetting the appetite" of the target countries for their real goals, such as CBDC and more centralized control from their control mechanisms such as the EU/WEF/UN etc. there are other good theories also about needing to reset sovereign debt etc, basically covid + war would be a good cover for this. only time will tell.

I really like Tom Luongo. I think he is one of the only folks able to make that smoke and mirrors a little more clear and boil it down. He sometimes agrees, sometimes disagrees with Armstrong, but in the end both are worth listening to.

His speech at the Ron Paul institute was great also.
 

Don Quixote

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
The intention is never to have a war last longer than necessary. So in a WW3 scenario nukes will come into play early. Attacks on energy sources would be used to strategically weaken the opponent. I would also expect the Satanic West lead by the USA to use biological and chemical weapons very early on and of course first.
Have been thinking about this lately. I bet in early human history wars were fought for literal survival of your people, if you lost the war your children and women would be killed or sold into slavery. Around the Crusades, wars were fought on an ideological basis, in the name of God, but back then people believed in God. Now, nobody in the West believes in God, and no war the West fights is existential in a real sense. People here are too comfortable. The elites know this and so gradually wars have become increasingly alienated – from fighting with swords to guns and then to advanced artillery, missiles, chemicals, and so on. Nobody would likely engage in real combat now, there's nothing people believe in higher than themselves, and they would not sacrifice themselves for anything let alone some random cause 8,000 km away.

So all this to say that I agree with you, any so-called "war" would be announced by limited or wide-reaching nuclear, chemical, cyber, or biological attacks, followed by lockdowns of civilians and major deprivations of human rights. Governments are already one step ahead in planning this. I recall recently the EU stockpiled potassium iodide. Also I watched this video recently which seems relevant.

WHAT ARE THEY PLANNING IN POLAND...?! (THIS IS SERIOUS)
 

Ember

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
I really like Tom Luongo. I think he is one of the only folks able to make that smoke and mirrors a little more clear and boil it down.
He's very good at that, but the noticing only goes so far. Tom never ventures beyond naming the culprits as the 'Davos Crowd'. Last year I tried to persuade him to give Gab a proper go, but it was too spicy, and he left.
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
He's very good at that, but the noticing only goes so far. Tom never ventures beyond naming the culprits as the 'Davos Crowd'. Last year I tried to persuade him to give Gab a proper go, but it was too spicy, and he left.
He has said that yes most of the people behind this are Jews...if that's what you're getting at.

He just doesnt let the entire show be about how bad the Jews are.

ETA
Yeah Twitter and Odyssey are his platforms. He's too busy writing and appearing on other shows for anything else he says.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Catholic
Gold Member
I could imagine all the European countries suddenly being roused from their slumber and becoming extremely dynamic under this kind of conflict and stress.
That won't happen, because democracy will make sure the people have no recourse against the government. It's literally designed to prevent such uppity little thoughts of dissent, and I'm not talking about direct election fraud like in the USA.

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Tardynox

Robin
Orthodox Inquirer
I'll be curious to see EU member state reaction to all this.

Europe is about to get hammered this winter.

I could see the most leftist members ignoring the USA's apparent attack on the pipeline while the more center/right EU members directly blaming the USA for committing an act of war on the continent.

EU might begin unraveling.
And the energy prices have already been insane, if this stuff continues we will be out of power this winter for sure.
 
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