Australian government has gone tyrannical

Roosh

Cardinal
I've been getting concerned emails from Australian readers. Looks like they will be the test case for total tyrannical control, starting with mandatory vaccines.
Australians are likely to face mandatory coronavirus vaccinations if Prime Minister Scott Morrison gets his wish.

The nation is a step closer to gaining access to a vaccine, with the Federal Government securing an international deal to produce a vaccine frontrunner locally if trials succeed.

If that happens, Mr Morrison said Australia would have a target of 95 per cent vaccination, which would account for people with health conditions that prevented them being vaccinated.

"I would expect it to be as mandatory as you could possibly make it," he told Melbourne radio station 3AW.

"There are always exemptions for any vaccine on medical grounds, but that should be the only basis.
They also plan to use "high powered" drones to find people not wearing masks and cars "too far from home."
 

budoslavic

Peacock
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Aboulia

Robin
"I would expect it to be as mandatory as you could possibly make it," he told Melbourne radio station 3AW.

"There are always exemptions for any vaccine on medical grounds, but that should be the only basis.

"We are talking about a pandemic that has destroyed the global economy and taken the lives of hundreds of thousands all around the world, and over 430 Australians here."

Only 430? That's roughly 1/3 of the road death total. In 2018 in Australia 158 493 died altogether, assuming similar statistics for 2020 that's 0.27% of the death total.

Forced vaccination of the population makes total sense. The only question is whether it comes with a tracking chip, sterilization or both.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member

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Could the coronavirus vaccine be mandatory in Australia? Experts say it's possible

News this week that Australia could have 25 million doses of the so-called "Oxford vaccine" available by early 2021 raises hope that a way to control COVID-19's spread may not be far away.

But it also raises some serious ethical questions about how the vaccine would be distributed — including whether it should be mandatory.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison — who originally declared yesterday the vaccine would be "mandatory" before revising his language to "encouraged" — added to speculation by suggesting that the "no jab, no play" framework used to compel uptake of childhood immunisation could offer a model for coronavirus vaccination too.

Who might refuse the vaccine?

Just as some groups have resisted masks for a range of reasons, it is inevitable that some would refuse the jab when or if it becomes available.

And vaccine sceptics are already preparing for a fight. A comment on one international website urged "Aussies need your help! They're going to force us to inject DNA modifying vaccine and they're doing it soon. We don't want our kids injected with poison".

But concerns over a vaccination are not limited to traditional anti-vax groups.

A new US study suggests as many as one in three Americans may refuse a COVID-19 vaccine.

As Russia prepares to roll out its untested Sputnik V vaccine, this statistic appears to reflect genuine unease over the safety of any future vaccine. The urgency of finding a vaccine solution means the potential candidates have progressed far more quickly than usual through the research and trials.

A clue as to how this dilemma could play out took place in the NRL earlier this year when three Gold Coast players were stood down for refusing to have a flu vaccine.

So can the Government make the vaccine mandatory?

Yes. The Government does have some options for enforcing a mandatory vaccination scheme.

Mirko Bagaric, the Dean of the Swinburne University Law School, says the Australian Government holds the right to compel citizens to have a vaccine even if they don't want it.

"Legally, the Government can impose whatever requirements it wants on its citizens," he says, pointing out the way coronavirus has already reshaped our right to personal liberty, freedom of movement and assembly.

"In Australia we don't have a human rights charter, or anything constitutional or enforceable through other types of legislation."

What might the consequences be for refusing?

A variation of the "no jab, no play" or the "no jab, no pay" policies have been suggested as one way to withhold some welfare payments for parents whose children are not fully immunised or on schedule to catch up. In some states, it also applies to enrolment in preschools and childcare centres.

Mr Morrison says he has "pretty strong view on vaccines", established during his years as the social services minister responsible for strengthening the "no jab, no play" regulations.

But it's not the only option available — there could be something like an "immunity passport", giving those who have been vaccinated more freedoms as restrictions ease.

There would be a "strong public view" that those who refuse a vaccination need "some sort of incentive", Deputy Chief Medical Officer Nick Coatsworth said yesterday.

"Looking at specific things like not being able to go into restaurants, not being able to travel internationally, not being able to catch public transport or more broadly having what in the olden days would have been a yellow fever vaccination certificate, these are clearly policy decisions that will be discussed," he said.

"But there's no current mechanism to enforce that sort of thing at the moment."

Who should be first in line for a vaccine?

Stephen Duckett, a health economist at the Grattan Institute with previous experience working in government health policy, says there's a long road ahead before the ethical questions around rolling out a vaccine will be directly confronted.

But when they are, compliance won't be the only dilemma.

Deciding who should be first in line for a new vaccine — and by default, who is first to get the hypothetical "immunity passport" — must also be considered.

Mr Duckett argues healthcare workers should be prioritised, followed by younger people who are at risk, such as those with suppressed immune systems.

 
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Hephaestus

Sparrow
For those who don't know, here in Melbourne, Australia (the most leftist city in the country) we already have compulsory mask-wearing laws and an 8pm curfew. Close to 100 percent compliance too.

And that was before 'rona...

Seriously though, I'm actually liking the Australian response. The smart states closed the border early and are now pretty much opened up and free. There was a lockdown, and we managed to eliminate the virus until some security guard fucked up and spread it via a cascade of massive house parties. NSW took too long to close the border to Victoria, so we've still got the odd case, so we need to take care even though the number of infected is small and dwindling, hats off to government contact tracers. Still, we can do everything but go to raves. Stadiums and churches are open, just not at full capacity.

The vaccine thing is a terrible idea. I'm generally positive about vaccines, but I see no rush to get it whilst the disease isn't present here, let people in high risk countries take it first, and if there isn't any problems after six months, I'd be happy to get it.

If there wasn't the fuckup in Melbourne, then we could've already eliminated it. Here's a recent video from Wuhan in China, yes, that Wuhan.
 
Seriously though, I'm actually liking the Australian response. The smart states closed the border early and are now pretty much opened up and free. There was a lockdown, and we managed to eliminate the virus until some security guard fucked up and spread it via a cascade of massive house parties. NSW took too long to close the border to Victoria, so we've still got the odd case, so we need to take care even though the number of infected is small and dwindling, hats off to government contact tracers. Still, we can do everything but go to raves. Stadiums and churches are open, just not at full capacity.
How did you manage to eliminate the virus exactly? People keep saying that lockdowns do that but I don't understand the logic behind it.
 

barrythecyborg

Woodpecker
"Who would refuse..."

Anyone with half a brain.

Total nightmare.

How is this possible in a Western country?

I know an Australian guy in Thailand ATM.

Just imagine that he'll most likely choose to stay as an illegal in the third world to hide from his own government...

Looks like they're testing for pushback... a terrifying prelude to what could be in the UK.

And this MUST be protected legally somehow. I can't believe mandatory vaxs don't violate rights anywhere... but that'sthe terrifying thing, most people don't think that way.

The mandatory part will be sold as protecting the massess from the outliers CRAZY enough to risk the negligible chance of infection... even though that argument makes no sense at all.

Covidiocy.
 
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barrythecyborg

Woodpecker
I know a lot of people are doubters, but personally I believe Q's legit...

If so, all this bullshit could unravel.

Trump was asked directly at a presser yesterday if he'd heard of the Q movement.

He said he knew 'little about it, except they're great people and like me a lot'. He also made a really encouraging comment about how ending evil in the US could spread worldwide.

Could be confirmation bias, but he looked to me like a a schoolboy trying to wriggle past the truth when he denied knowing much about it...
 

ginsu

Woodpecker
How did you manage to eliminate the virus exactly? People keep saying that lockdowns do that but I don't understand the logic behind it.

You can't that is the whole point, just like the flu. Its eliminated when they say it is, and its back when they say it is. Its all just words and incentive at this point.

So you end up with an unfixable problem that requires what could be an infinite amount of measures being re- applied forever. The citizens get the blame every time the problem is not fixed. End result Orwellian dictatorship across the planet. That's the genius/evil of the game they play. Can't eliminate it, because either it doesn't exist in the first place or its just some form of regular flu.

In the new movie plandemic they say everything has been patented so no one is able to look into the virus or make tests or vaccines for it except for the people appointed by the patent holders. All the vaccine, test kit producers and royalties for the patents holders are making big bucks on something that will never go away because the incentive to keep making money off this and gain more control as long as the game goes on is too big, maybe one of the biggest opportunities in history for them.

It will only stop if people in mass around the world rise up. On a long enough timescale we will be complete slaves, we are right on track for it. If world wide revolutions don't happen. Then Get ready to accept all kinds of rules and vaccines, if you wan't to keep participating inside the system.

Pretty much everything in the future will be tied to your ID that says whether you are a good slave or not. If you are not a slave you will get to have nothing, and be allowed to go nowhere. You will be an outcast and probably won't survive or procreate. Slaves will get to have toys like cars, permission to travel public transport, bank accounts or a job.

Or you could go to live in the wilderness of Alaska.

 
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