Austria introduces mandatory vaccination for its citizens

Kiwi

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
Depends how you measure success of a protest. I think it's worthwhile even at the most basic level for people just to gather together to know they're not alone, not crazy, and to identify and network with people from all walks of life. Basically, to establish some kind of community when I would bet a number of these people don't even really know their neighbour. I say use the tools and design of the city and online world against them.
 

Deusleveult

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
Nonsense. Protests in France have frequently been successful. The primary aim of the yellow vest protests was to cancel a tax hike on fuel. It worked. Protests in the 60s got rid of de Gaulle. Farmer protests have frequently got the government to change policy.

This time the scale of the problem is greater, so protesting might need to take different forms.

The protests in the French islands of Guadeloupe and Martinique seem to be having some effect in rolling back the green pass.

Prices of gas are now on the same page as when the yellow vests protests started, so it didn't do anything in the end.
De Gaulle was the last French president that had his country and people's interest at heart and the elite got rid of him thanks to stupid 18 year old boomers who wanted more "freedom".

I don't think you realize who you are up against. You are facing masterful strategists, evil manipulators, who are ruthless and relentless in their pursuits and will crush anyone that stands in their path.

The Bible says it best in Ephesians 6:12 :
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of he darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."

Modern protests are like the saying "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight" and people don't even come with knives they come with sticks and stones and sometimes even flowers and candles.

Wake up and stop playing into their hands.
 

Godward

Robin

They keep moving the Fauci window further to the underworld. But it seems like we are seeing the emergence of Vax Havens.

It might be my selective observation, but it appears to me that the “medical” totalitarianism that we are witnessing in Teutonic/Prussian countries is fundamentally different from the medical totalitarianism in Anglo-Saxon countries. So, Germany and Austria, and by extension the EU, are drifting towards a hierarchical collectivism with no space for the “unhygienic”, while countries such as the UK, Democratic parts of the the US and especially Canada and Australia are starting to repress their dissenting, “unclean” populations as if these are colonials. Simply put: in times of “crisis”, they are almost instinctively reverting back to their old wicked ways (thus their own distinct forms of Imperialistic Social Darwinism). Does anyone else share this observation?
 
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Grow Bag

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Protests in themselves won't change much, but they do serve as a means to network, motivate and vent. Doing something is always better than doing nothing. The elites response is to either ignore them, infiltrate and misrepresent them, legislate against them or relent and repackage that which is being protested and go again. The elite will not be thwarted by protests alone. Revolutions, most often those fomented by the elite themselves, have historically been hatched and executed from disparate groups or cells all working toward the same end. The Alt-Right were correct in saying that such change lies downstream from culture and culture is formed out of ideas. These ideas in turn have to gain traction with intelligent, influential powerful people. Populism won't work to change much, if anything, without such people in the ranks.

Although I believe Q was a psy-op, he or they were correct is implying that powerful people working behind the scenes would bring about great change. With that said, I don't believe we're going to see a halt to the Great Reset without an outpouring of God's grace. In a sense this dystopian future has come down upon us because we collectively deserve it. So ultimately our quest should be to for each and everyone of us to repent and seek God's grace for our eternal future, not our temporal future.
 
I don't think you realize who you are up against. You are facing masterful strategists, evil manipulators, who are ruthless and relentless in their pursuits and will crush anyone that stands in their path.

Get a load of the blackpilling.

It's obvious what we're up against.

These people aren't that impressive. They mostly have mind-tricks and gaslighting. Their enforcers are relatively small in number. If the demos are well organised they can't police them.

Demos are a good first step.

I don't want to go down the road of Martinique, Guadeloupe and now St. Martin, but it might be inevitable.
 

tom

Sparrow

droughtmeat

Kingfisher
Catholic
The plot thickens

So every two months a new chancellor steps down?? Maybe just in time for Klaus to swoop in and replace them
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Get a load of the blackpilling.

It's obvious what we're up against.

These people aren't that impressive. They mostly have mind-tricks and gaslighting. Their enforcers are relatively small in number. If the demos are well organised they can't police them.

Demos are a good first step.

I don't want to go down the road of Martinique, Guadeloupe and now St. Martin, but it might be inevitable.
It's pretty impressive to lock the entire world down and make almost everyone believe in the biggest lie of history. They have mind tricks and gaslighting, but also the entire financial system (central banks) and the police-military system through their governments. Sure enforcers are relatively small in number, but as you say with the right steering of the masses we see the people becoming the enforcers themselves now (look at the restaurants enforcing the QR codes). So it's not blackpilling to acknowledge what the odds are of turning this around, but realistic thinking and a assessment of the chances of the tide turning, which knowing human psychology and how far the masses are from the truth isn't too much roses and sunshine. That doesn't mean that all is hopeless, on the contrary, for those who see what's going on knowing the truth brings tremendous mental and spiritual freedom and the hysteria brings a fantastic screening mechanism to know with which people to build future networks. Chances will be plenty, just some more inginuity and creativity is necessary.
 
It's pretty impressive to lock the entire world down and make almost everyone believe in the biggest lie of history. They have mind tricks and gaslighting, but also the entire financial system (central banks) and the police-military system through their governments. Sure enforcers are relatively small in number, but as you say with the right steering of the masses we see the people becoming the enforcers themselves now (look at the restaurants enforcing the QR codes). So it's not blackpilling to acknowledge what the odds are of turning this around, but realistic thinking and a assessment of the chances of the tide turning, which knowing human psychology and how far the masses are from the truth isn't too much roses and sunshine. That doesn't mean that all is hopeless, on the contrary, for those who see what's going on knowing the truth brings tremendous mental and spiritual freedom and the hysteria brings a fantastic screening mechanism to know with which people to build future networks. Chances will be plenty, just some more inginuity and creativity is necessary.

You need to be realistic about what you mean by 'tide turning' and 'turning this around'. You want to turn it around to what? What's your intended direction of travel?

Most people - and I'm assuming most Christians - understand there was something really wrong with the world leading up to 2019. Do we really want to turn it back to that?

We also have to be realistic about what the evil overlords are up to. Central bank digital currencies are coming. A social credit system is coming.

You shouldn't take part in as far as is possible. Use cash. Don't use QR codes so the evil overlords don't have your data. Don't install or use the social credit app. Withdraw your custom from businesses that check QR codes, enforce masking and so on.

The revolution won't be televised.
 

ISR92

Sparrow
Protests in themselves won't change much, but they do serve as a means to network, motivate and vent. Doing something is always better than doing nothing. The elites response is to either ignore them, infiltrate and misrepresent them, legislate against them or relent and repackage that which is being protested and go again. The elite will not be thwarted by protests alone. Revolutions, most often those fomented by the elite themselves, have historically been hatched and executed from disparate groups or cells all working toward the same end. The Alt-Right were correct in saying that such change lies downstream from culture and culture is formed out of ideas. These ideas in turn have to gain traction with intelligent, influential powerful people. Populism won't work to change much, if anything, without such people in the ranks.

Although I believe Q was a psy-op, he or they were correct is implying that powerful people working behind the scenes would bring about great change. With that said, I don't believe we're going to see a halt to the Great Reset without an outpouring of God's grace. In a sense this dystopian future has come down upon us because we collectively deserve it. So ultimately our quest should be to for each and everyone of us to repent and seek God's grace for our eternal future, not our temporal future.
The protestors need to set out their demands and give the government an ultimatum like the Hong Kong protestors did. If the government doesn't abolish the mandates then everyone starts destroying government property until they listen. Peaceful protests never work. Notice how the HK protestors started getting concessions after they started using these tactics. Even against a Chinese puppet government. I imagine it would be much easier in a country like Austria.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
You need to be realistic about what you mean by 'tide turning' and 'turning this around'. You want to turn it around to what? What's your intended direction of travel?

Most people - and I'm assuming most Christians - understand there was something really wrong with the world leading up to 2019. Do we really want to turn it back to that?

We also have to be realistic about what the evil overlords are up to. Central bank digital currencies are coming. A social credit system is coming.

You shouldn't take part in as far as is possible. Use cash. Don't use QR codes so the evil overlords don't have your data. Don't install or use the social credit app. Withdraw your custom from businesses that check QR codes, enforce masking and so on.

The revolution won't be televised.
That's a good point! Indeed going back to what it was also was a disgusting inverted truth world. However now all humanity is sucked out. Hence this gives us the chance to build something new.
 

Sisyphus

Woodpecker
Other Christian
I can't believe that this is all happening. That this collective hysteria did lead to such incompetent, rushed decisions by the political class. Looking back, I realize how fragile freedom really was. Below the thin layer of civilization lies the barbarism of totalitarianism, and all it took for it to show its true face was a well treatable virus with a death rate of less than 0.5 percent for those with preconditions.

I look at the rest of our daily privileges that we call a civilization, like access to clean water, sufficient supply of food and shelter, and the basic rule of law. All those luxuries we take for granted, just like basic freedom until 2019, and all those things are just as fragile.

I firmly believe that technology progresses, but humans do not. Because we hold smartphones in our hand and know how to use computers, modern humans have become arrogant in their belief that equipping oneself with advanced technology would also translate into being an advanced human being. The liberal obsession with technology and the technocratic influence of our times are a telling sign of this fallacy.
Far from it, we are the same evolved monkeys from the stone and middle ages, and just because we can drive cars and use a phone doesn't change a single thing about ourselves.

For this reason I believe that history repeats itself in recognizable patterns. As someone else on this forum has addressed so well, the era between 1945 and 2019 was an exception is history, a lucky break in the violent history of the human animal. I realize that the era of relative freedom is coming to an end. Maybe the boomers were the luckiest generation in the history of mankind.
The last decade of the 2010s reminds me a bit of the roaring 1920s. A late stage liberal society that was free but morally bankrupt, which in turn led to the bloodshed of world war 2. I think that the 2020s of our time will be a time of the violent struggle between totalitarianism and the free individual, just like in the 1930s in Europe. And because those who seek to implement totalitarianism have given themselves the name of liberals instead of fascists, they will do the exact same thing as the fascist leaders of 1930s Europe.
And there is no way to stop it, no way to stop humans from inflicting this tragedy upon themselves again. I am looking for a sign of hope, a single calm voice of reason in a sea of hysterical cries, and I can not hear a thing. I try not to hold on to the luxuries of our fragile civilization, and anyone who has an ounce of free will inside themselves will soon enough learn to appreciate the most basic of all human instincts: the will to survive.

I agree with your overall sentiment, but the people of the former Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, Colombia, Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Mexico, Grenada, Kenya, Algeria, Congo, Somalia, Iran, Iraq, Northern Ireland, and many many others would disagree with the bolded part. But to me this only provides further support to your main point with which I wholeheartedly agree - that the barbarism and bloodthirsty violence is always seething just below the surface even when all appears calm.

We were kidding ourselves if we thought "it couldn't happen again." Based on my interpretation of history and human nature, I always assumed it would. So while I feel for people in the denial, depression, or anger stages of grief as a result of current events, they shouldn't really be surprised. It's our duty to make sure the next generation doesn't fall into the same trap, or better said, trappings of comfort and complacency that the post 1945 generation in the US had the extreme luxury of wallowing in for over 70 years.

It can happen again and it most certainly will. The human tendencies that cause it to happen will never disappear, and we should prepare and equip ourselves accordingly.
 

monkmass

Chicken
Orthodox Inquirer

Austria has mandated compulsory 'univerisal vaccination' for its citizens. Every Austrian citizen will need to have been jabbed by February 1.

Those who refuse will be shipped off to the Konzentrationslager I suppose.

Lately I have been wondering what those who come after us will point out as the day the Free West stopped existing.

It might as well be today.
As a citizen of Germany, I'm seriously worried since Austria is a neighbor with almost the same culture.
Ironically, the only political parties speaking out against mandatory vaccines are the right-wing ones, who are constantly being branded as fascists.
No other parties will cooperate with them to form a majority government, so Germany is doomed.
This is worse than the Nazis, since Hitler only stigmatized and punished the jews.
 
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