Austrian Election 2017

[Parzival]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

The last one was close and I'm sure the new election will mobilise more people and again it will be very close. The EU agenda is under pressure.

 

[Glaucon]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

The last one was close and I'm sure the new election will mobilise more people and again it will be very close. The EU agenda is under pressure.

BREXIT really started a domino. Its good Austria is not in the NATO, helps if they want to separate. Having an independent army always helps.

But they have to switch back to Austrian schilling from the Euro still...

 

[Caravaggio]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

The last one was close and I'm sure the new election will mobilise more people and again it will be very close. The EU agenda is under pressure.

BREXIT really started a domino. Its good Austria is not in the NATO, helps if they want to separate. Having an independent army always helps.

But they have to switch back to Austrian schilling from the Euro still...

I don't think that a "öxit" would not be feasible for Austria yet. Our economy is too focused on exports and our own market is too small. We better wait till the whole EU collapses.

And our army is a joke. Full of old and fat guys, broke and badly equipped.

 

[Wreckingball]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

Great news!

 

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

Fantastic! Is this for real? I can't believe the Cuckstitutional court ruled in FPO's favor.

 

[Khan]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

The last one was close and I'm sure the new election will mobilise more people and again it will be very close. The EU agenda is under pressure.

I'm optimistic about this one. The constitutional court's decision and the vote-rigging accusations that will stem from it will probably sway some disillusioned voters away from the left. This could be just enough to tip the end result in Hofer's favor.

 

[Samseau]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

Fantastic! Is this for real? I can't believe the Cuckstitutional court ruled in FPO's favor.

The fraud must have been that bad

I knew it was a fake result as soon as I read the story about the postal votes coming in "suddenly" at the end. Hopefully Austria puts in better measures to stop voting fraud for the next election.

 

[Parzival]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

They don't say the election was a fraud, they say there had be some laws bent by counting the votes. So the counting itself is correct but the way how it was done wasn't. To restore the trust in the democratic vote system, they will vote again. That was the main argument.

 

[Easy_C]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

As per Armstrong:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/...or-the-eu-austrian-election-declared-a-fraud/

Austria’s Constitutional court has ordered that the May’s presidential election be completely annulled. A new election must be held because of “particularly serious cases” of voting fraud that was detected in the vote. If the election is not rigged, then we may have another country seek to exit the EU or give them a good scare. There are some currents moving under the surface in the EU. The German Finance Minister Mr Schäuble really wants a treaty between the EU and the UK covering trading rules and other regulations that would restrict Britain from gaining access to the EU’s internal market. His hard-line approach is designed to deter other European countries from leaving the EU. His view, according to sources, he wants to punish Britain to ensure there are no incentives for other member states when renegotiating relations.

However, Mr Schauble also wants to use BREXIT to begin a reform process in the EU for he wants to change the structure for Germany. He too wants to eliminate the EU Commission and introduce a new structure that would then oversee debts, stability and growth of all members and would have greater control to step-in and reject member states’ budget plans. In reality, he was direct control, however, he seems to also want Germany to have some sort of final say on the financial plans of all countries within the Eurozone.

The future remains very much up in the air. The Constitutional Court overturning the Austrian Election may change the game.

 

[tomzestatlu]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

Terminology such as far-right, extremistic, nationalist, racist, neofascist and so on is only made by leftist liberal scum to scare the people. Everyone who is thinking rationally and isn´t happy about destroying souvereign nations is called like this. So I am proud to be far-right extremist.

 

[redpillage]

Austrian Election Thread

With only 62 more days to go until the Austrian parliamentary election on October 15, a currently unfolding political scandal may have the potential to shift the momentum away from the governing SPÖ (the social democrats - basically Merkel's bitches) toward the FPÖ a.k.a. the Austrian Freedom Party:

Austrian Social Democrats Cut Ties With Tal Silberstein, Israeli Political Adviser Linked to (((Beny Steinmetz)))
The party has severed ties with (((Tal Silberstein))) after he was detained alongside billionaire (((Steinmetz))) and four other businessmen in Israel amid suspicions of money laundering.

Austria’s Social Democratic Party has cut ties with Tal Silberstein, an Israeli political adviser detained Monday alongside Israeli billionaire Beny Steinmetz and four other businessmen amid suspicions of using fake contracts to launder money.

“Tal Silberstein advised the election campaign for the Social Democratic Party of Austria, and did social science research in the field of public opinion polling,” the Austrian APA-OTS news agency quoted the party’s campaign manager, Georg Niedermühlbichler, as saying. “The SPÖ is ceasing cooperation with Silberstein, effective immediately.”

Israeli media reported in December that Steinmetz was suspected of bribing the former leader of Guinea and his wife for rights to mine at the Simandou range, one of the world's largest sources of iron ore. Steinmetz's company BSGR previously had its mining license revoked in Guinea because of corruption charges.

In 2015, Romanian media reported that Steinmetz, former Yitzhak Rabin Chief of Staff Shimon Sheves and Silberstein, a former adviser to Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert, were suspected of involvement in illicit real estate deals that cost the Romanian government more than $160 million.

Earlier Monday, Steinmetz and the four other businessmen were detained and questioned under caution, meaning they might be charged with a crime.

David Granot, the recently appointed acting chairman of the Bezeq telecom group, was one of the five businessmen, the company said, but it was not yet clear who the other three were.

The police suspect that the five detainees used contracts for fictitious deals, including property deals in a foreign country, to move money around and launder illegal profits.

Jewish billionaires meddling in European elections? Noooo - who would have thunk?
Now let's see if the FPÖ can run this ball all the way into the elections.

 

[RaccoonFace]

RE: Austrian Election Thread

FVP polled around 35% for a long time but lately they've been declining. The pro-EU cuckservative party ÖVP is set to win the election. The good news is that FPÖ has actually been in government before so there's probably a big chance that ÖVP forms a coalition with them.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

RE: Austrian Election Thread

I think that FPO will not win, because the ruling OVP started to sound like anti-immigration shitlords.

The reality is that those traitorous shitheads are only using words without actions and it seems to work.

This is a sign of the idiocracy of our times - when the people get swayed by words without actions while another 100.000 immigrants are let in to the small country of Austria each year. By the time of the next election 500.000+ of Muslims and Africans will have entered the country and many would have been given the vote.

It will likely be too late to change it to FPO - there will be too many enemies within the state.

 

[Nowak]

RE: Austrian Election Thread

I think that FPO will not win, because the ruling OVP started to sound like anti-immigration shitlords.

The reality is that those traitorous shitheads are only using words without actions and it seems to work.

This is a sign of the idiocracy of our times - when the people get swayed by words without actions while another 100.000 immigrants are let in to the small country of Austria each year. By the time of the next election 500.000+ of Muslims and Africans will have entered the country and many would have been given the vote.

It will likely be too late to change it to FPO - there will be too many enemies within the state.

OVP is headed by a closest case that seems verrrry similar to when the FPO was run by one.


The FPO is only good in the sense they are against mass migration and are not hard core SJWs like all other parties in Austria are. They are still in favor of socialism and too much social atomization/mass politics and worst of modernity. FPO parliamentarians are no different than from other parties when it comes to spoiling "daddy's special girls".




https://kurier.at/politik/inland/strache-ueber-sich-man-wird-reifer/281.852.532

They want to sacrifice young people at the alter of bankrupting the state just to help old people.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

RE: Austrian Election Thread

Don't fall into the neo-liberal libertarian trap like I did in my young days as an economics student.

The better economic model is one of a tiny state, flat taxation system (unbending with zero deductions) and of course zero public debt, because usury is the biggest problem of them all.

But even leaving aside the usury question (research - Austrian Woergl model for alternatives https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/the-power-of-demurrage-the-worgl-phenomenon/) the economic system needs an equilibrium between the interests of the wage-earners and the ones of the entrepreneurs. Strangely enough the entrepreneurs are long-term even richer if the average wage earners have a solid standard of living. The Dickensian libertarian model is only good in relative terms and only short-term.

It would not bankrupt Austria to pay 1200 EUR for pensioners - most will be fed back into the economy again, but it will bankrupt the country to pay 1000-3000EUR for every bloody unproductive immigrant family who later even causes more problems. The problem of Austria is not too much socialism, but the problem is that the system is being destroyed by immigration and then the usual bullshit like EU rules and global warming madness.

Honestly if it had not joined the EU, had completely closed borders, showed a finger towards the environmentalist mafia, then unemployment would be likely at 2% - meaning close to zero - and the wages would be much higher. But this is true for most European countries.

 

[Nowak]

RE: Austrian Election Thread

Don't fall into the neo-liberal libertarian trap like I did in my young days as an economics student.

The better economic model is one of a tiny state, flat taxation system (unbending with zero deductions) and of course zero public debt, because usury is the biggest problem of them all.

But even leaving aside the usury question (research - Austrian Woergl model for alternatives https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/the-power-of-demurrage-the-worgl-phenomenon/) the economic system needs an equilibrium between the interests of the wage-earners and the ones of the entrepreneurs. Strangely enough the entrepreneurs are long-term even richer if the average wage earners have a solid standard of living. The Dickensian libertarian model is only good in relative terms and only short-term.

It would not bankrupt Austria to pay 1200 EUR for pensioners - most will be fed back into the economy again, but it will bankrupt the country to pay 1000-3000EUR for every bloody unproductive immigrant family who later even causes more problems. The problem of Austria is not too much socialism, but the problem is that the system is being destroyed by immigration and then the usual bullshit like EU rules and global warming madness.

Honestly if it had not joined the EU, had completely closed borders, showed a finger towards the environmentalist mafia, then unemployment would be likely at 2% - meaning close to zero - and the wages would be much higher. But this is true for most European countries.

Agree libertarians are stupid, but all forms of utopian thinking are stupid. There will always be costs and benefits to systems, both good and shitty. It's about what the best balance is.


Most people today agree both left and right( keynesian and monetarist ) that the great depression was caused by a foolish suppression of credit. I'm not sure if its the same thing today, interest free or negative interest rates are perpetuating false/destructive industries that popped up after the 50s/60s. Most Northern and Eastern Europeans are against ZIRP/NIRP from the EZB. More money circulating into the economy also means asset price inflation. Someone has to account for higher payments to pensioners.


Higher the interest rates more people can save and see their income appreciate. You can have high taxes and high spending or low taxes and low spending so its not related to how large the state should be.

Austria doesn't have the level of taxation needed not to cause inflation for perpetually supporting an aging population.



Looking at my own life and what I see around me,I'm against more socialism because of asset price inflation and how its a stamp of approval for dysgenic behavior. Young people might be encouraged to be less retarded especially if they can get on the housing ladder.

 

[RexImperator]

RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president

After more than a decade in which the Social Democrats have led a coalition with the conservatives, the mood in Austria seems to be moving to the right, our correspondent says.

Mr Kurz, the outgoing foreign minister, reinvented the ÖVP after becoming leader in May, moving it rightward with promises to:

Shut down migrant routes to Europe

Cap benefit payments to refugees at a low level

Bar other foreigners from receiving benefits until they have lived in Austria for five years

Mr Kurz forced the snap election when he refused to continue in coalition with the Social Democrats, led by incumbent Chancellor Christian Kern.

The FPÖ accuse Mr Kurz of stealing their policies. Their candidate, Heinz-Christian Strache, has called him an "imposter".
If his party wins, as polls suggest it will, Mr Kurz would become the youngest leader in Europe, and analysts say his party is likely to go form a coalition with the FPÖ.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41625544

 

[DarkTriad]

Austria elects Center/Right President!

This guy is only 31 years old, and sounds really good. Had to beat some outright voter fraud (that annulled the entire first election). Starts at 10 seconds -

 

[CynicalContrarian]

RE: Austria elects Center/Right President!

Somewhat surprised Voxday hasn't addressed this yet.
Right up his alley.

Accept the moderate nationalists of today, or deal with the ultra-nationalists of tomorrow.

 

[RexImperator]

RE: Austria elects Center/Right President!

This wasn't for President (a largely ceremonial post) but Parliamentary elections, so he will likely end up as Chancellor assuming a coalition of the conservatives with the "far" right.