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<blockquote data-quote="PowerGame" data-source="post: 972355" data-attributes="member: 9736"><p><strong>RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president</strong></p><p></p><p>Well I would call myself someone who stands behind original democracy. </p><p></p><p>Like in ancient Athen: no voting for slaves, women, "inner country foreigners" or foreigners. So only men of the own tribe are able to vote who live close by. And the most power in the hands of old families that have proven to do everything for their polis in war, making money or gaining influence in their home. But of course I prefer it after solons or other reformations. Or the law that forces you to decide for one side in a bigger city dispute. </p><p></p><p>And it's possible to find the point where the democracy of Athen initiated the self destruction. But historical circles will never stop. </p><p></p><p>I also read somewhere : if you annoyed too many people they just kicked you out for 10 years. Each year a voting took place. It didn't matter how rich or mighty you were, you manipulate and work against the city.. If people find out you get exiled. </p><p></p><p>And I stay behind the thesis in this thread that hydrogonian stated a lot more eloquently than me. That's beautiful to read. </p><p></p><p>They got new voters in. Who should never have been allowed to vote. </p><p></p><p>And the statistic discrepancy and timing of the counting is in my opinion enough to call fraud,like the fact that every media source says between 600.000 and 900.000 postal votes, well that's a huge amount for 30.000 votes that made the decision. </p><p></p><p>And let's not forget, if Hofer won I'd call it undemocratic, too. But if you count who has the most amount of direct supporters Hofer would be the most Democratic choice. </p><p></p><p>And the EU itself is totally undemocratic . they can over rule every national law or decision, sure there is veto power. Well use it and see what your secret society friends will do to your career. </p><p></p><p> And to a certain degree everyone should agree that it's also undemocratic to be over ruled by the city of Wien if you live elsewhere. </p><p></p><p>I won't adress the whining statements or similar ones. That's just personal conclusion. </p><p></p><p>Normally things only change by violent takeover not by vote. And too many original citizens of Europe still think that demonstrations or petitions do something. Because they are not violent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PowerGame, post: 972355, member: 9736"] [b]RE: Austria may elect Europe's only far-right president[/b] Well I would call myself someone who stands behind original democracy. Like in ancient Athen: no voting for slaves, women, "inner country foreigners" or foreigners. So only men of the own tribe are able to vote who live close by. And the most power in the hands of old families that have proven to do everything for their polis in war, making money or gaining influence in their home. But of course I prefer it after solons or other reformations. Or the law that forces you to decide for one side in a bigger city dispute. And it's possible to find the point where the democracy of Athen initiated the self destruction. But historical circles will never stop. I also read somewhere : if you annoyed too many people they just kicked you out for 10 years. Each year a voting took place. It didn't matter how rich or mighty you were, you manipulate and work against the city.. If people find out you get exiled. And I stay behind the thesis in this thread that hydrogonian stated a lot more eloquently than me. That's beautiful to read. They got new voters in. Who should never have been allowed to vote. And the statistic discrepancy and timing of the counting is in my opinion enough to call fraud,like the fact that every media source says between 600.000 and 900.000 postal votes, well that's a huge amount for 30.000 votes that made the decision. And let's not forget, if Hofer won I'd call it undemocratic, too. But if you count who has the most amount of direct supporters Hofer would be the most Democratic choice. And the EU itself is totally undemocratic . they can over rule every national law or decision, sure there is veto power. Well use it and see what your secret society friends will do to your career. And to a certain degree everyone should agree that it's also undemocratic to be over ruled by the city of Wien if you live elsewhere. I won't adress the whining statements or similar ones. That's just personal conclusion. Normally things only change by violent takeover not by vote. And too many original citizens of Europe still think that demonstrations or petitions do something. Because they are not violent. [/QUOTE]
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