Avoid all modern Hollywood with the exceptions named in this thread

Syberpunk

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TooFineAPoint said:
There are very few serious American directors currently who actually seem to understand human beings and want to bring a unique vision to life on the screen, while employing some sense of aesthetic and honoring their craft.

Here they are:

- Martin Scorsese
- David Fincher
- Paul Thomas Anderson
- Wes Anderson
- Sophia Coppola
- Alexander Payne

Pretty much it.

There are also some guys who make good movies every now and again:
- Coen Bros
- Steven Soderbergh
- Jim Jarmusch
- Quentin Tarantino
- Jon Favreau

As much as it pains me to say it, the once-genius Terrence Malick is a shell of himself and has lost it to navel gazing permanently, so I have to leave him off.

Think that pretty much covers it...

(this list is for people still actively working and/or alive)
Denis Villeneuve is great too and relatively new and I was going to include him, then I realised he's French Canadian, moody films but very good. Though many would disagree with Arrival. Prisoners is probably his most grounded film.




Jake Gyllenhaal can be in anything and make it roughly 5 times better just being on screen.

The writer Taylor Sherdian who wrote Sicario, Hell or High Water and Wind River is good as well, they all are modern Westerns in different settings.
 
I forgot Woody Allen, mainly because I just don't see any merit in his work post 1999, but technically he is still alive and working.

I guess Midnight In Paris was watchable.

He is a master though. Even in the late 90s, when people were shitting over that period of his work, he did a few really great films:
- Deconstructing Harry
- Celebrity
- Sweet & Lowdown

Those are all pastiches of Bergman and Fellini, but I never got the criticism of that (as if Bergman and Fellini didn't crib from others all the time). They are FANTASTIC and supremely enjoyable pastiches.

Deconstructing Harry (scene when Harry is caught teaching his very young son about appreciating sexy women, while at school):

"Beth Kramer has never been so mortified in her entire life."

"Beth Kramer's a tight-assed, busybody cunt... and it's none of her business how I speak to my son."
 

RedPillUK

Pelican
You still support Netflix one of the most SJWy companies there is. And you still occasionally read The Guardian of all places one of the most anti white, anti male publications that exists. I would be more discriminatory. Definitely never read anything that asks you to turn off your adblocker.
 

trian1

Woodpecker
I find it exciting that bro-humor Broken Lizard's "Super Troopers 2" is outperforming Amy Shumer's "I Feel Pretty" despite the latter being distributed to almost twice as many theaters.

RELEASE SCHEDULE
April 20 -- Theaters
I Feel Pretty -- 3,440
Super Troopers 2 -- 2,038
SATURDAY AM UPDATE: With an estimated $7.9 million on Friday, Fox's Super Troopers 2 is leading the weekend's new releases and heading toward an anticipated $15-17 million, well ahead of expectations. The film received a "B+" CinemaScore from opening day audiences.

Nipping at Super Troopers's heels on Friday is Amy Schumer's I Feel Pretty, which brought in an estimated $6.25 million on Friday and is expected to deliver anywhere from $17-18+ million for the three-day weekend. The film received an overall "B+" CinemaScore, though among females under 18 it received an "A+", and an "A" from females under 25.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4390&p=.htm
 

Syberpunk

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John Wick 1 and 2 are highly recommended, I thought they would be mindless but arty shoot em ups for the Reddit crowd, I heard of them a few years ago, but I'm delighted to say they're brilliantly directed revenge films with great world building, excellent. Though some would say his motivations are slightly askew....

Also Keanu Reeves seems to have taken a wide berth of any controversy and lives low key, takes part in gun competitions for real and it shows on screen.

http://www.returnofkings.com/124629...es-is-a-modern-magnum-opus-of-red-pill-cinema


Collateral is another great film done by Michael Mann who also did Heat and Miami Vice (the tv series and film). He's fallen to the wayside in recent years but he's painstaking on detail and atmosphere, and mostly does crime thrillers. Another film of his his is Thief from the 80's. He has a very strong distinctive style. Last of the Mohicans is also his work.
 

gework

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The best thing that comes to mind is this 74 part Anime, Monster:


I'd go for the subs over the dub, as the dub make it seem too light-heart and childish. It's an atmospheric, adult, deep psychological drama. I watched this when it came out when I was quite young and it's one of those things that I realised there was a lot of deep meaning hidden under the surface that I didn't understand, but was attracted to. I generally don't like anime due to all the over the top exploding pink heads and weird stuff. This anime is the culmination of an intelligent, well-read guy's life of thinking on the world, fashioned into an unorthodox and winding series. This is very adult and it's obviously based on, in particular, the work of Karl Gustav Jung and Sigmund Freud. One of the character is clearly based on Freud:



This character is a psychoanalyst.

A good review of it here. Too many spoilers after about 7m.

I also like a lot of stuff that was made for children, but still accessible for adults, like Studio Ghibli (Spirited Away et. al.). There is quite a lot of material in that vein from countries that were between The West and USSR. You'll find in these preservation of age-old morality, as opposed to the current gruel of virtue for nothing.

This is a favourite, with a rare professional dub courtesy of Brian Blessed:


There are a lot of others on Youtube by the creator, Jiří Trnka, but almost all in the native Czech.

Some others in the same vein:



A couple of underrated and obscure Woody Harrelson films: The Hi-Lo Country, The Suncahser.

A few others: Bang Bang You're Dead, Ondskan, Rambo 4, Blade, Hearts in Atlantis, Empire Falls, Into The West, Gran Torino, Quest for Fire, Bicho de Sete Cabeças, Midnight Express, Kingpin.

For music, I'm down to alt-right pin-up boys.
 

rudebwoy

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Other than a handful of movies that were made a long time ago.

Hollywood is trash, it is a distraction for the masses.

Sure I like comic book heroes when I was a kid, but I am not a kid anymore. I don't need to see Iron Man 3, Spiderman 10 or X-men 20.

Read a book or get a hobby or better yet fuck more women.
 
^ see how insidious the slow creep is?

Art used to be a way to enlighten and pass on age-old wisdom. The aesthetic qualities helped it to be a transcendent experience, because it is not explaining things in a straightforward way, but in a way that things can be felt or slowly apprehended.

Music has become white noise or vulgarity.

Painting is now meaningless blobs where the audience is encouraged to create their own meanings whole cloth as if they are a central part of the work of art (total narcissism instead of surrendering yourself to higher ideals).

Movies -- an amazing and powerful medium that can have an unbelievable effect on us -- has been reduced to distraction fantasies for children (or adults who refuse to grow up mentally).

World cinema and even Hollywood at its best made/makes amazing works for adults, but so few adults choose to watch or support them.

Applying the filter of "it has to be red pill" is necessarily limiting one from experiencing a lot of great art that may enhance one's life. Unless your definition of red pill is so expansive it basically just means "truths about human nature".

My ability to comfortably integrate into other cultures while travelling, or to relate to young and beautiful women, was helped immensely by seeking out art that operated honestly about those two things.

That means finding a filmmaker who doesn't treat eastern cultures as an Eat Pray Love candyland for aging western feminists, or who doesn't represent all young women as faultless superheroes. I mean, those things aren't hard to do if you are just an honest and thoughtful person with a tiny bit of self-awareness.

I wouldn't call Sofia Coppola particularly "red pill", but she created a lovely coming of age story of a slightly spoiled and attractive teenage girl in Marie Antoinette. If a perceptive young man watched that movie, in addition to enjoying the beauty of the work, he would learn nearly as much about female nature as he could reading this forum.
 

Richard Turpin

Kingfisher
Following good recommendations in the thread, I've swapped my daily commute listen from Radio 4 (usual propaganda) to Classic FM and am starting to get an unexpected appreciation for classical music. Also downloaded a podcast app and am listening to various educational and instructive stuff when I'm in the mood for it. EDIT; Just discovered the 'Best Podcasts' thread!

I watch almost no mainstream TV nowadays. After work, chores and working out/running I have an hour of Netflix (Altered Carbon at the minute; 6 episodes in and a great show with female nudity in every episode so far. I've been hoping the little mexican cop would show off her goods and she finally went full-frontal during last night's episode). Then I read for an hour or two before going to bed.

The new Avengers film is coming out now and I'd normally be first in line to see it, but I've finally had enough and am having no problem whatsoever resisting the urge to hand over money to see it.
 

Thot Leader

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I'm not sure it counts as modern Hollywood since it's from 2006 but Apocalypto is an amazing film, a spot-on red-pilled allegory for our age of cultural decline.
 

Bienvenuto

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gework said:
This is a favourite, with a rare professional dub courtesy of Brian Blessed:


There are a lot of others on Youtube by the creator, Jiří Trnka, but almost all in the native Czech.

Some others in the same vein:



A couple of underrated and obscure Woody Harrelson films: The Hi-Lo Country, The Suncahser.

A few others: Bang Bang You're Dead, Ondskan, Rambo 4, Blade, Hearts in Atlantis, Empire Falls, Into The West, Gran Torino, Quest for Fire, Bicho de Sete Cabeças, Midnight Express, Kingpin.

For music, I'm down to alt-right pin-up boys.
The Pardoner's Tale is a very deep and spooky story that pre-dated the Canterbury Tales, supposedly being a Buddhist Jataka tale or even pre-Buddhist ancient Hindu tale.

It repeats and repeats itself in art. Most heist movies have an element of it in their denouement.

No Country for Old Men is a modern day telling of the Pardoner's Tale.
 

Richard Turpin

Kingfisher
RedPillUK said:
You still support Netflix one of the most SJWy companies there is. And you still occasionally read The Guardian of all places one of the most anti white, anti male publications that exists. I would be more discriminatory. Definitely never read anything that asks you to turn off your adblocker.
The Guardian?! No way mate, never bought it in my life. Don't read it online either unless by accident. I'm new to Netflix and yeah, it's a lot more SJWy than I expected, sadly. But there's some good stuff there as well, loads of decent documentaries like Ken Burns' The West and The Civil War. Watching one about Teddy Roosevelt now. Lots of old films and shows, not just the new shite. And no adverts. And I can turn any sjw shit off (after I've down-voted it). And with having young kids there's plenty of choice for them without having to subject them to the nightmare that is UK TV adverts. We'll see how it goes but so far the good outweighs the bad, if that changes it's easily cancelled.
 

Monty_Brogan

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Just tried to rent and or even buy Apocalypto on Amazon. It's very difficult to do if not impossible -many people saying the Blu-ray's don't work. And Amazon doesn't allow you to rent it.

Mr. Gibson sure pissed ((('em))) off. Respect him more and more every day.
 

Syberpunk

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When I said that Jake Gyllenhaal was peerless earlier I meant this, now this is an ugly and inspiring RED PILL film Nightcrawler, the fact he didn't win because it shows the shit side of LA and what the media is like, GOOD GOD the performance of the decade and one of its best films, on the edge of my chair the entire time:



He also did his own driving in the film, which when you see it is impressive.
 

Kurgan

Kingfisher
Richard Turpin said:
Following good recommendations in the thread, I've swapped my daily commute listen from Radio 4 (usual propaganda) to Classic FM and am starting to get an unexpected appreciation for classical music. Also downloaded a podcast app and am listening to various educational and instructive stuff when I'm in the mood for it. EDIT; Just discovered the 'Best Podcasts' thread!

I watch almost no mainstream TV nowadays. After work, chores and working out/running I have an hour of Netflix (Altered Carbon at the minute; 6 episodes in and a great show with female nudity in every episode so far. I've been hoping the little mexican cop would show off her goods and she finally went full-frontal during last night's episode). Then I read for an hour or two before going to bed.

The new Avengers film is coming out now and I'd normally be first in line to see it, but I've finally had enough and am having no problem whatsoever resisting the urge to hand over money to see it.

I don't watch Netflix much nowadays due to work, chores and grad school. I'll be lucky to feel fine to go to a movie or rent something.

I'm not interested in comic book films now due to the toxicity of fandoms. It took me a long time to realize the arguments about franchises are childish and immature and it's a waste of time.

If there are films that I would recommend, it would be the Rampage films by Uwe Boll. They're about a young man who realizes the wealthy and elite ruin people so he goes Eliot Rodger on his town, a news station and eventually the President. It seems to be red pill in my view.
 

gework

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JP crystalised the reason why I no longer watch films or TV in this video with )))Ben Shapiro(((.


Can't remember the time marker. But it's something along the lines of drama is an attempt to celebrate what is admirable. That may be something gritty and painful.

But what the mainstream has moved to doing is celebrating the ugly, the bemused, the depraved, the depressing, slow and rapid descents into the abyss. The same things that are duplicated in their mass media counterparts: drain cleaner in the eyes, peados on the victim hierarchy, porn normalisation, gender confusion and so on.
 

M3B

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Syberpunk said:
When I said that Jake Gyllenhaal was peerless earlier I meant this, now this is an ugly and inspiring RED PILL film Nightcrawler, the fact he didn't win because it shows the shit side of LA and what the media is like, GOOD GOD the performance of the decade and one of its best films, on the edge of my chair the entire time:



He also did his own driving in the film, which when you see it is impressive.
I second this. His performance in that film was incredible and genuinely one of the best I've seen in years and years. I watched it for the second time with my girlfriend and her friend who both hadn't seen it before and it evoked some pretty strong emotions in them both which I don't usually see - particularly the parts where he is talking about dating the woman from the network.

My anti-Hollywood collection is heavy with things fromStudio Ghibli which is a throwback to 1950s Japan and the focus on friendship, family and community is extremely apparent. They're just very touching films.

I've pretty much given up on Hollywood producing anything remotely as deep or thought provoking.
 

Syberpunk

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Referencing my earlier post, David Stewart talks about why modern film music is so unmemorable, basically music students get the idea of writing melody beaten out of them over time.

 
Let's talk about an ideal world of avoiding Hollywood/ Media:

No MSM (ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WP, hell, even FOX News)

No Disney, no Universal, no Harvey Weinstein, and so on.

Just alternative media, or media that is telling the truth.

Hollywood is messed up, and MSM for that reason.

Let's start with this to watch, which is my opinion:

Mel Gibson, Jim Caviezel, Clint Eastwood, Classic Hollywood.

They've subverted meaning, haven't they? But there are still good things out there to watch.

It shrinks it down man, doesn't it?

Just exercise your common sense. It's ok to watch MSM stuff sometimes. Just don't let it overrun your life.

There are hundreds, thousands of years of cultural history, and I know Hollywood and others decide we need to see their newest thing.

You don't need a subscription to Netflix, New York Times, or any of those guys.

Consume with control.

Choose the good stuff--sometimes it's not always the newest.
 

Thot Leader

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Syberpunk said:
When I said that Jake Gyllenhaal was peerless earlier I meant this, now this is an ugly and inspiring RED PILL film Nightcrawler, the fact he didn't win because it shows the shit side of LA and what the media is like, GOOD GOD the performance of the decade and one of its best films, on the edge of my chair the entire time:



He also did his own driving in the film, which when you see it is impressive.
One of the last movies I truly enjoyed.
 
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