Bankers Rule The World

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
Originally posted on RooshV.com

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To anyone who has been paying attention, the boot of tyranny is firmly pressing upon our faces. The leaders of all Western nations are on board with a globalist agenda that is moving onto a more aggressive phase of control. We have been ruled over by a tiny elite for a long time, but now it’s absolutely clear to even normal people who really is in charge.

In your quest to know the truth of who runs the world, you will encounter terms like billionaire, oligarch, “the rich,” regime, bankers, politicians, banking families, and so on. Who has seen the organizational chart of the world except those at the very top? All we can discern from the nosebleed seats is that the central focus of power lies with those who have the ability to print money and control monetary policy. It’s not those who have the most money who are powerful, such as Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates, but those who can hyperinflate the money and make or break fortunes overnight. Jeff or Bill cannot print or hyperinflate money, so they are not at the top of the food chain, and are beholden to those who control the value of their money. Instead, they are presented to us through softball interviews and glossy magazine covers as being the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world. No, the wealthiest man in the world may only have a dollar to his name, but if he controls money, he controls the wealth of all men.

Those who control money also control who is allowed to receive large political donations and favorable media coverage to win elections, or at least media coverage that doesn’t include multiple women making false accusations of sexual assault. The system is set up so that it is impossible for an honest, Christian man to rise up to the highest levels of power. Impossible. You can’t even rise up to a $100,000 a year corporate job without making compromises to your faith, for the products and services of most corporations target a human’s weakness to commit the deadly sins of gluttony, sloth, pride, anger, lust, greed, envy, and wrath. With my eyes and ears closed, I deem any candidate for serious office to be greatly compromised due to an attachment to the world that is higher than his attachment to God. This doesn’t mean that Christian men can’t at least try to gain political office to serve God, especially in local elections, but the system as it is acts as a centrifuge to spin out any man whose character possesses an ounce of moral weight. The best we can hope for is a ruler is one who is not too evil or compromised in some heinous way involving Satanic ritual sacrifice.

How can one explain the fact that conservative politicians who speak against transgendered children or vaccine mandates are ultimately controlled by the same bankers who are forcefully pushing those very things through other politicians? If you are a top banking family that controls both sides, the left and the right, you will grant the left an allowable set of behaviors that are opposed by the right and grant the right an allowable set of behaviors that are opposed by the left. If you did not do this, there would not be two sides but only one, and you would have to watch in fear as an organic opposition rose up from the people. Therefore, even if you are the banker who desperately wants to promote sodomy for the purpose of your depopulation agenda and everlasting rule, you must allow some of your pawns to mildly speak out against that agenda for the purpose of establishing a dialectic that ultimately you fully control to serve your long-term interests. Therefore, some “conservative” politicians are allowed to usher in toothless conservative policies under the guise of letting people think that power resides with them and their votes instead of a shadowy elite who increasingly desires to control every aspect of their lives.

Some leaders are allowed to go against cultural aspects of the globalist agenda, such as gay marriage, but they are not allowed to go against global agenda items such as climate change and pandemic response. Politicians cannot go against the big-ticket items of the bankers, and if they do, they will be quickly removed or assassinated. The ability to mildly oppose degenerate cultural norms outside of abortion is greatly limited. The biggest obstacles to family creation and higher birth rates are not abortion but women’s education, employment, and birth control, which all fall under the feminism umbrella, but conservative politicians dare not stand in opposition. Conservatism is what the liberals believed a few years ago, and never includes pre-feminist traditional views, which puts God, family, and nation above all other concerns, especially the emotional and material desires of women. Ultimately, politicians like Joe Biden and Donald Trump are both controlled by the same spider who controls the spider web. No leader should gain our unending praise for calling a sin a sin, but in a controlled dialectic, we pathetically fawn over a leader who does so little as call the media liars, which Donald Trump had done. With just a few words from the tongue, Trump immediately earned the loyalty of tens of millions of Americans who he proceeded to let down in various ways.

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It’s safe to assume that a politician is controlled if his country is a member of the Bank of International Settlements, the central bank of central banks. If you happen to control the BIS, you essentially control the world. The United States and all European countries are in the BIS (Russia was recently kicked out, signifying its genuine independence). Bankers have their tentacles deeply implanted in these nations, and will not let their politicians merely do whatever they want, so any type of conservative revival you see, especially at the hands of a politician who merely speaks a bit of truth but not the full truth, should be met with extreme skepticism unless you see him forcefully agitate for the moral and spiritual improvement of a nation, and not the sort of “spiritual but not religious” improvement of being a “good” person, but of persistently calling upon his faith in Lord Jesus Christ through his words and actions to encourage the nation to repent of their sins and turn away from the ways of the secular world. If you don’t see a politician put Christ first, you’re witnessing the work of a hired agent, a manager for the bankers.

Unfortunately, Satan dominates the nations of the world. Most attempts at anointing a moral ruler are a ruse, a means of deceiving you into placing faith onto that ruler instead of God. Recall the temptation of our Lord, when Satan showed him all the kingdoms of the world that he politically controlled.

Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” —Matthew 4:8-9

Archbishop Averky, a holy elder in the Russian Orthodox Church, explains:

Truly, what can be more frightening than the spectacle of an entire world that had willingly given itself up to the authority of the devil? It is as if the devil is saying to the Lord: “You can see what power I have over people; do not get in my way, and in the future, I will be willing to share this power over them with You. All you have to do is enter into an alliance with me. Just bow down to me, and You will be that Messiah that the Jews are expecting.” —The Four Gospels by Archbishop Averky

Nothing has changed since our Lord walked on this earth 2,000 years ago. Whether consciously or not, political aspirants consent to the devil’s bargain while our Lord’s human nature did not. Perhaps men think that they can make a deal with Satan to later renege and serve the people as God intended, but once you enter a pact with Satan, the Holy Spirit departs from your presence, and you become corrupt in ways you didn’t imagine, unable to perform any of your original good intentions.

As Christians, we don’t make compromises to our faith in the hope of performing good in the future. We don’t perform an evil deed now in the hope of doing a good deed later. We strive to love God first and foremost, and to follow all his commandments as a testament of our love for Him, and that means not flirting with the devil and not putting our faith into worldly rulers who don’t preach repentance. We will not change this world. We will not see a devout Christian man who isn’t a tool of the Zionists rule our American homeland, and so we must wait until this life passes to behold the magnificent throne of our Lord God, the only throne and the only king that is worth our worship unto the ages of ages.

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Suburban Yahoo

Robin
Protestant
Our mission starts with the Kingdom of God, and permeating it through all the kingdoms of the world.

The devil's temptation is to jump ahead to taking the kingdoms of the world, neglecting or surrendering the Kingdom of God. You lose everything that way. In fact, seeing a good Christian man making political advances today adds extra spice to the temptation.
 

messaggera

Pelican
Woman
Other Christian
The United States and all European countries are in the BIS (Russia was recently kicked out, signifying its genuine independence). Bankers have their tentacles deeply implanted in these nations, and will not let their politicians merely do whatever they want,
The system is set up so that it is impossible for an honest, Christian man to rise up to the highest levels of power. Impossible.

Was it not Jacob Henry Schiff (a German-born Jewish American banker, businessman, and philanthropist) who gave the order to murder the pious royal Russian family (last Orthodox Tsarist autocracy)? Lenin was only a pawn.

Jacob’s father was Moses Schiff (an agent for the Rothschild family).

Interesting as this always seems to be a pattern with “bankers.”

Corrections welcomed.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
True. Politics is just a false idol. Saving ''the West'' or ''my country'' is a false idol. Putting all our hopes in a politician is a false idol. The way in which the system is set up we can only cope with it locally in our close circles. There's not going to be a mass awakening or mass resistance. In fact, in the West they've already taken away the warrior class by emasculating and weakening men for decades. Take away the warrior class and there will be no revolution. The ship is sinking and that's what it is, but we also know that it has to happen in the grand scheme of things.
 

MsJNix

 
Banned
Woman
Catholic
Women’s education, employment, and birth control, which all fall under the feminism umbrella is not the only obstacle to family creation. While this might be true in some cases, it is also true that men today, especially the millennial men do not want marriage or families. They prefer to live with their girlfriends and remain childless. They do not like the responsibility that comes with a family. I know of a young stay at home mom, she is 34 years old with three children under the age of 10, whose husband left her. I know her personally and she is a wonderful person. The problem with today's society, and that includes men, is there is no honor or shame. Men can do as they please and are even admired and rewarded for opting out of marriage and staying single. Women do not want to be left with a young family and no father. They have to have some type of education and a job to fall back on, if the marriage falls apart. The times have changed and men need to step up and do their part, if we want strong families.
 

darknavigator

Woodpecker
Catholic
Money is to a society what blood is to the human body. The bankers control the supply of money and they can punish any nation that refuses to do their bidding (cut of the money supply).

"I used to think that if there was reincarnation, I wanted to come back as the president or the pope or as a .400 baseball hitter. But now I would like to come back as the bond market. You can intimidate everybody." (James Carville)
 
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Optimus Princeps

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
Women’s education, employment, and birth control, which all fall under the feminism umbrella is not the only obstacle to family creation. While this might be true in some cases, it is also true that men today, especially the millennial men do not want marriage or families. They prefer to live with their girlfriends and remain childless. They do not like the responsibility that comes with a family. I know of a young stay at home mom, she is 34 years old with three children under the age of 10, whose husband left her. I know her personally and she is a wonderful person. The problem with today's society, and that includes men, is there is no honor or shame. Men can do as they please and are even admired and rewarded for opting out of marriage and staying single. Women do not want to be left with a young family and no father. They have to have some type of education and a job to fall back on, if the marriage falls apart. The times have changed and men need to step up and do their part, if we want strong families.
I'm sick of hearing this. Women initiate something like 70-80% of divorces. Roosh is right, the main obstacle to family creation is women's education, employment, and birth control. Not porn, video games, feminization or any other issue plaguing men. What do you want men to step up to?

As a 26 year old man there are essentially 0 single women at the ROCOR church I attend and it was similar in other parishes I went to. My woman peers are all focused on getting careers and prostituting themselves at the bars every friday night. Should I wait 10 years as I increase my faith, practice chastity, have a successful career and then wife up a used up, secular 36 year old woman with limited fertility, but who may be suddenly interested in Orthodoxy as she hears the clock ticking? And even then there's a high likelihood she divorces me and takes half my stuff, not to mention the liability I am putting myself under in terms of false accusations if she is ever dissatisfied as she can call to the full power of the law to punish me.

Women are not pushed into a corner where they only have been with terrible guys and so they're waiting to be this virgin traditional housewife but are taking a career in the meantime since there's no prince charming. Chances are that you find a career woman like that, you can find countless guys in her 20's that she rejected in order to have fun that would have made great fathers and husbands. Now, they may not all be 6 foot 5 six figure earner chads with 10k instragram followers, so with the beauty in her 20's she will hold out for better until it is too late. Just look at all of these men on this forum who are great quality men that I would be happy to wed my future daughter to, and who cannot find anyone. Now there are of course secular men who aren't good quality as well, but that is insignificant when there is such a greater number of red-pilled guys who would like nothing more than to start a traditional family. What's stopping this is not men, it is women getting careers and empowered by acting like men (education/employment), and carousel riding their most fertile years (birth control).

The fact is men have no power. We cannot force any change and women have full equal rights. We cannot lead what does not want to be led.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
I'm sick of hearing this. Women initiate something like 70-80% of divorces. Roosh is right, the main obstacle to family creation is women's education, employment, and birth control. Not porn, video games, feminization or any other issue plaguing men. What do you want men to step up to?

As a 26 year old man there are essentially 0 single women at the ROCOR church I attend and it was similar in other parishes I went to. My woman peers are all focused on getting careers and prostituting themselves at the bars every friday night. Should I wait 10 years as I increase my faith, practice chastity, have a successful career and then wife up a used up, secular 36 year old woman with limited fertility, but who may be suddenly interested in Orthodoxy as she hears the clock ticking? And even then there's a high likelihood she divorces me and takes half my stuff, not to mention the liability I am putting myself under in terms of false accusations if she is ever dissatisfied as she can call to the full power of the law to punish me.

Women are not pushed into a corner where they only have been with terrible guys and so they're waiting to be this virgin traditional housewife but are taking a career in the meantime since there's no prince charming. Chances are that you find a career woman like that, you can find countless guys in her 20's that she rejected in order to have fun that would have made great fathers and husbands. Now, they may not all be 6 foot 5 six figure earner chads with 10k instragram followers, so with the beauty in her 20's she will hold out for better until it is too late. Just look at all of these men on this forum who are great quality men that I would be happy to wed my future daughter to, and who cannot find anyone. Now there are of course secular men who aren't good quality as well, but that is insignificant when there is such a greater number of red-pilled guys who would like nothing more than to start a traditional family. What's stopping this is not men, it is women getting careers and empowered by acting like men (education/employment), and carousel riding their most fertile years (birth control).

The fact is men have no power. We cannot force any change and women have full equal rights. We cannot lead what does not want to be led.
Technically you are not wrong, but you will have no peace if you overdose on black pills. Trust in God... He doesn't make mistakes.
 

Max Roscoe

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Most politicians are bad people. But any politician, no matter how good their intentions, is still a slave to the system of fake money that those above him control.

If a person's name is well known (ie Joe Biden, George Soros, Bill Gates) you can be sure that they are only gears in the machine, and removing them would have zero effect.

Money is the tool of control today. The spiders have set up a system where they create and distribute money at will, and therefore no rearranging of this money, or taxing it at a different rate, or spending it in a different way fundamentally changes the limitless printing and debt that it is founded on.

The only way to achieve meaningful change is by operating under a completely new system--something hardly anyone other than Catherine Austin Fitz or the Zeitgeist project even talk about.


God bless her, but she is fighting a losing battle. Most are fighting just to hold the ground we were on 10 years go, for the right to not use QR codes or to pay in cash, and can't fathom rethinking an entire economic system.

The only hope is for those like the Amish, who never let the bankster's foot in the door in the first place.
In my city, I am now seeing (premium) houses sell for $1 million. Do you think anyone can afford a house like that without using banks? Those people will be beholden to bankers their entire working lives (and possibly into retirement as well). They are not going to do anything that puts that relationship at risk.

The You Will Own Nothing plan is their ultimate dream. If I own a house today that I bought for $100,000, not the absurd prices they are going for today, I have a great deal of freedom. I need a couple hundred dollars to pay for my food and utilities, but even a minimum wage job would allow for that, plus some spending money.

On the other hand, if you are just buying a house today, you are paying several times what I did just a decade ago, and will be indebted to a banker for decades.

But if you own nothing, you don't even have THAT lesser freedom. You must pay every day, every time, for everything you need, which has now become a service. Taking a car to work? PAY ME. Putting on your clothes in the morning? PAY ME. Walking your dog in the afternoon? PAY ME. Because you don't own a car, a house, a bed, a dog, or clothes, you rent them, and you will pay the bankster every time you use his service. And none of these things can be bought, only debited regularly under a subscription plan from your virtual currency account. This is their final nightmare.
 

MartyMcFly

Ostrich
Other Christian
Most politicians are bad people. But any politician, no matter how good their intentions, is still a slave to the system of fake money that those above him control.

If a person's name is well known (ie Joe Biden, George Soros, Bill Gates) you can be sure that they are only gears in the machine, and removing them would have zero effect.

Money is the tool of control today. The spiders have set up a system where they create and distribute money at will, and therefore no rearranging of this money, or taxing it at a different rate, or spending it in a different way fundamentally changes the limitless printing and debt that it is founded on.

The only way to achieve meaningful change is by operating under a completely new system--something hardly anyone other than Catherine Austin Fitz or the Zeitgeist project even talk about.


God bless her, but she is fighting a losing battle. Most are fighting just to hold the ground we were on 10 years go, for the right to not use QR codes or to pay in cash, and can't fathom rethinking an entire economic system.

The only hope is for those like the Amish, who never let the bankster's foot in the door in the first place.
In my city, I am now seeing (premium) houses sell for $1 million. Do you think anyone can afford a house like that without using banks? Those people will be beholden to bankers their entire working lives (and possibly into retirement as well). They are not going to do anything that puts that relationship at risk.

The You Will Own Nothing plan is their ultimate dream. If I own a house today that I bought for $100,000, not the absurd prices they are going for today, I have a great deal of freedom. I need a couple hundred dollars to pay for my food and utilities, but even a minimum wage job would allow for that, plus some spending money.

On the other hand, if you are just buying a house today, you are paying several times what I did just a decade ago, and will be indebted to a banker for decades.

But if you own nothing, you don't even have THAT lesser freedom. You must pay every day, every time, for everything you need, which has now become a service. Taking a car to work? PAY ME. Putting on your clothes in the morning? PAY ME. Walking your dog in the afternoon? PAY ME. Because you don't own a car, a house, a bed, a dog, or clothes, you rent them, and you will pay the bankster every time you use his service. And none of these things can be bought, only debited regularly under a subscription plan from your virtual currency account. This is their final nightmare.
However, even with you buying a house at a good price, you still don't own it. Many old people living near the beach had to sell their homes when they got too expensive due to the harsh taxes. It may sound like a nice problem to have, but someone that is 75 might not care about selling their house and moving to a condo.

Some states have reasonable taxes. However, in New Jersey or New York, you could easily have property tax bills of over $10,000 a year for a home that is nowhere close to being a mansion. My guess is that the Amish have huge property tax bills that even they can't get around although they are smarter than most people when it comes to being independent.

I agree with you. It is extremely creepy not being able to own anything.
 

MsJNix

 
Banned
Woman
Catholic
I'm sick of hearing this. Women initiate something like 70-80% of divorces. Roosh is right, the main obstacle to family creation is women's education, employment, and birth control. Not porn, video games, feminization or any other issue plaguing men. What do you want men to step up to?

As a 26 year old man there are essentially 0 single women at the ROCOR church I attend and it was similar in other parishes I went to. My woman peers are all focused on getting careers and prostituting themselves at the bars every friday night. Should I wait 10 years as I increase my faith, practice chastity, have a successful career and then wife up a used up, secular 36 year old woman with limited fertility, but who may be suddenly interested in Orthodoxy as she hears the clock ticking? And even then there's a high likelihood she divorces me and takes half my stuff, not to mention the liability I am putting myself under in terms of false accusations if she is ever dissatisfied as she can call to the full power of the law to punish me.

Women are not pushed into a corner where they only have been with terrible guys and so they're waiting to be this virgin traditional housewife but are taking a career in the meantime since there's no prince charming. Chances are that you find a career woman like that, you can find countless guys in her 20's that she rejected in order to have fun that would have made great fathers and husbands. Now, they may not all be 6 foot 5 six figure earner chads with 10k instragram followers, so with the beauty in her 20's she will hold out for better until it is too late. Just look at all of these men on this forum who are great quality men that I would be happy to wed my future daughter to, and who cannot find anyone. Now there are of course secular men who aren't good quality as well, but that is insignificant when there is such a greater number of red-pilled guys who would like nothing more than to start a traditional family. What's stopping this is not men, it is women getting careers and empowered by acting like men (education/employment), and carousel riding their most fertile years (birth control).

The fact is men have no power. We cannot force any change and women have full equal rights. We cannot lead what does not want to be led.
So what should a woman who had three children fathered by a man who is no longer interested in her do? What man wants to marry a woman with 3 young children? By the way, there is nothing wrong with a 36 year old woman's fertility. My mother was 40 years old when I was born and she had two more children after that. I was 35 when I my last child was born. My sister had all her children after the age of 33. Her last child was born when she was 40 years old. You are only 26 years old.
 

Optimus Princeps

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
So what should a woman who had three children fathered by a man who is no longer interested in her do?
How am I to answer this with no information given. When did she marry? Did they meet in church? Did they abstain from sex until marriage? Likely this is a secular relationship, in which case she made poor choices. This does nothing to address what I said, but is just pushing an irrelevant strawman. You zoom right past all of the valid points I made regarding the state of women.
What man wants to marry a woman with 3 young children? By the way, there is nothing wrong with a 36 year old woman's fertility. My mother was 40 years old when I was born and she had two more children after that. I was 35 when I my last child was born. My sister had all her children after the age of 33. Her last child was born when she was 40 years old. You are only 26 years old.
Again these anecdotes mean nothing. In mid-thirties a woman loses her beauty and youth compared to her 20-something self. Her value is lower and you know as well as I do that women who marry in their mid thirties have not been saving themselves for the perfect husband this whole time but have been doing what I already mentioned in my post. This is not even getting into the increased complications of birth defects, dwindling amount of eggs, and chances of infertility past 35 increasing dramatically. But as a woman you have the authority to tell men to man up and marry these aging, secular women after they had their fun.

I never said a mid 30's woman cannot biologically reproduce. Again you are putting up an emotionally charged strawman and not addressing any of the valid points I made. And I have no idea what my age has to do with any of the ideas we are discussing. One thing you might want to consider is that you do not know better than men do of what they should do and what they experience with women, regardless of how many wonderful mid 30's women you know who have, ostensibly for no reason or fault of their own, had their husband walk out. It is pretty solipsistic to think you should be the one commanding men, telling them to "man up". The Bible is very clear about man following God and woman following man as that is the natural order. This reminds me of the video Lauren Southern posted telling men to man up, it's just silly.

Edit: And just to reiterate what Roosh was saying, although I am aware of all this it is not good to solely focus on the blackpill and I remain optimistic due to my faith in God. However, I still think it is pertinent to rebut this commonly used line of a woman telling men that they just need to "man up" when in reality there nothing more than from the depths of our soul that a lot of us would love to do but just are not able to due to women refusing to take any kind of accountability or willingness to be led.
 
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MsJNix

 
Banned
Woman
Catholic
How am I to answer this with no information given. When did she marry? Did they meet in church? Did they abstain from sex until marriage? Likely this is a secular relationship, in which case she made poor choices. This does nothing to address what I said, but is just pushing an irrelevant strawman. You zoom right past all of the valid points I made regarding the state of women.

Again these anecdotes mean nothing. In mid-thirties a woman loses her beauty and youth compared to her 20-something self. Her value is lower and you know as well as I do that women who marry in their mid thirties have not been saving themselves for the perfect husband this whole time but have been doing what I already mentioned in my post. This is not even getting into the increased complications of birth defects, dwindling amount of eggs, and chances of infertility past 35 increasing dramatically. But as a woman you have the authority to tell men to man up and marry these aging, secular women after they had their fun.

I never said a mid 30's woman cannot biologically reproduce. Again you are putting up an emotionally charged strawman and not addressing any of the valid points I made. And I have no idea what my age has to do with any of the ideas we are discussing. One thing you might want to consider is that you do not know better than men do of what they should do and what they experience with women, regardless of how many wonderful mid 30's women you know who have, ostensibly for no reason or fault of their own, had their husband walk out. It is pretty solipsistic to think you should be the one commanding men, telling them to "man up". The Bible is very clear about man following God and woman following man as that is the natural order. This reminds me of the video Lauren Southern posted telling men to man up, it's just silly.

Edit: And just to reiterate what Roosh was saying, although I am aware of all this it is not good to solely focus on the blackpill and I remain optimistic due to my faith in God. However, I still think it is pertinent to rebut this commonly used line of a woman telling men that they just need to "man up" when in reality there nothing more than from the depths of our soul that a lot of us would love to do but just are not able to due to women refusing to take any kind of accountability or willingness to be led.
How would you know if mid thirties women have not been saving themselves for the perfect husband? I have known quite a few good Catholic women who are in their 30s waiting for a decent Catholic man and they have not been doing what you mentioned in your post. You are making assumptions on things you know very little about. What does it matter if a 30 something woman has lost her beauty and youth? God does not judge us by our outward beauty, only men do that. By the way I said step up, I did not say man up. If you father children then stay with your wife until they are 18 or older. Better yet, fulfill your marriage vows by remaining together for life.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Women’s education, employment, and birth control, which all fall under the feminism umbrella is not the only obstacle to family creation. While this might be true in some cases, it is also true that men today, especially the millennial men do not want marriage or families. They prefer to live with their girlfriends and remain childless. They do not like the responsibility that comes with a family. I know of a young stay at home mom, she is 34 years old with three children under the age of 10, whose husband left her. I know her personally and she is a wonderful person. The problem with today's society, and that includes men, is there is no honor or shame. Men can do as they please and are even admired and rewarded for opting out of marriage and staying single. Women do not want to be left with a young family and no father. They have to have some type of education and a job to fall back on, if the marriage falls apart. The times have changed and men need to step up and do their part, if we want strong families.
That's interesting, there's a couple of points here.

1. I'd say there's a line of men waiting to marry almost any woman. But is that the man she wants? Average women nowadays want above average men due to boundless hypergamy that has been created by taking away all boundaries on male/female partner seeking strategies. The pattern usually is a woman declining multiple proposals in her 20s and early 30s then to realize in their later 30s that she's played the casino to long and her credit is running out.

2. Many men, at least if they're wise, wouldn't get into marriage. Unless she's very religious and the chances of splitting up are minimal due to restraining factors such as religion and community. Any sane secular man getting in a marriage with a divorce rate of over 50 percent and an 80 percent chance of the woman initiating divorce and then taking you to the cleaners and ruin your life in the courts that are set up specifically to destroy the livelihood of set man is beyond my imagination. Fact is that a woman loves a man til she doesn't (opportunistically vs the idealistical perspective of men) and if she can initiate a divorce and take the house, alimony, your money and your children because she "feels like it" at a whim or because a better socio-economic option comes around, you're setting yourself up for destruction as a man. What I've realised is that when a woman's feelings are perceivably hurt by a man she'll often try nothing short of annihalating the man, while they could've been together for 40 years.

3. Most women want to live a promiscuous lifestyle in their 20s then crying out in their 30s as in their pride the men they want to provide and protect for them doesn't show up. Actions have results and women are not taught that anymore. There are no male family figures preparing her for her role in life. Society, Cardi B and Nicky Minaj are her go to figures of influence. Moreover most women don't have wife qualities and features, they usually have no idea how to keep a man around and what a man expects of a serious relationship. Also most women want to remain living a single lifestyle while married or in a relationships, with the nights out etc. It doesn't work that way but in modern society most women want to keep their options open to some extent, which is very disrespectful to her man. You can't expect a man to be traditional and being non traditional yourself. If a woman doesn't know her traditional role in marriage, is a semi-man due to the competitive/dominant/conflict seeking qualities she has learned by society and in her career, there is not much for a man to win and the woman is a liability instead of an asset.

4. It's all nice and good to ask men to men up now, but how are we supposed to know what being a man and taking responsibility and leadership is if no one has taught us that? There's no strong fathers around anymore usually, we're told to be emotional weak creatures, we're told that trad masculinity is bad. While women are being set in the wrong direction by making them effectively men, don't underestimate how much men are psychologically conditioned in the feminine, with the result of an ocean of rudderless little boys who have no idea about masculinity, truth and who are and are supposed to be.

We're all getting wrecked by the same system. The men vs women narrative is a false one: the same thumbscrews are in effect for the both of us. Entire modern society is set up not to have long term, healthy, fulfilling, satisfying relationships for both men and women, which will result sadly in a lot of people living by themselves for their entire life in the future, estimations for women e.g. being more than 50 percent in working age range by 2030. The cat meme isn't a joke unfortunately and it's with reason that many are investing in cat food as product of the future. I can barely imagine how this landscape will look like in 30 years but given that women's happiness comes from people and not from things, lacking a family and having a career will have very detrimental effects. It's with reason 25 percent of US women are on antidepressant and anti anxiety medication already, with 42 year old career woman earning 100k a year the least happy demographic. In line with the rise of emancipation women's happiness has gone down yearly since the 70s and this will exacerbate. Living alone won't be good for men either but they'll be able to cope with it better, plus men have longer time to disentangle the delusions of modern society, for a woman it's over at 40 and often they realize their position on the chessboard too late.
 

Solitarius

Robin
Catholic
That's interesting, there's a couple of points here.

1. I'd say there's a line of men waiting to marry almost any woman. But is that the man she wants? Average women nowadays want above average men due to boundless hypergamy that has been created by taking away all boundaries on male/female partner seeking strategies. The pattern usually is a woman declining multiple proposals in her 20s and early 30s then to realize in their later 30s that she's played the casino to long and her credit is running out.

2. Many men, at least if they're wise, wouldn't get into marriage. Unless she's very religious and the chances of splitting up are minimal due to restraining factors such as religion and community. Any sane secular man getting in a marriage with a divorce rate of over 50 percent and an 80 percent chance of the woman initiating divorce and then taking you to the cleaners and ruin your life in the courts that are set up specifically to destroy the livelihood of set man is beyond my imagination. Fact is that a woman loves a man til she doesn't (opportunistically vs the idealistical perspective of men) and if she can initiate a divorce and take the house, alimony, your money and your children because she "feels like it" at a whim or because a better socio-economic option comes around, you're setting yourself up for destruction as a man. What I've realised is that when a woman's feelings are perceivably hurt by a man she'll often try nothing short of annihalating the man, while they could've been together for 40 years.

3. Most women want to live a promiscuous lifestyle in their 20s then crying out in their 30s as in their pride the men they want to provide and protect for them doesn't show up. Actions have results and women are not taught that anymore. There are no male family figures preparing her for her role in life. Society, Cardi B and Nicky Minaj are her go to figures of influence. Moreover most women don't have wife qualities and features, they usually have no idea how to keep a man around and what a man expects of a serious relationship. Also most women want to remain living a single lifestyle while married or in a relationships, with the nights out etc. It doesn't work that way but in modern society most women want to keep their options open to some extent, which is very disrespectful to her man. You can't expect a man to be traditional and being non traditional yourself. If a woman doesn't know her traditional role in marriage, is a semi-man due to the competitive/dominant/conflict seeking qualities she has learned by society and in her career, there is not much for a man to win and the woman is a liability instead of an asset.

4. It's all nice and good to ask men to men up now, but how are we supposed to know what being a man and taking responsibility and leadership is if no one has taught us that? There's no strong fathers around anymore usually, we're told to be emotional weak creatures, we're told that trad masculinity is bad. While women are being set in the wrong direction by making them effectively men, don't underestimate how much men are psychologically conditioned in the feminine, with the result of an ocean of rudderless little boys who have no idea about masculinity, truth and who are and are supposed to be.

We're all getting wrecked by the same system. The men vs women narrative is a false one: the same thumbscrews are in effect for the both of us. Entire modern society is set up not to have long term, healthy, fulfilling, satisfying relationships for both men and women, which will result sadly in a lot of people living by themselves for their entire life in the future, estimations for women e.g. being more than 50 percent in working age range by 2030. The cat meme isn't a joke unfortunately and it's with reason that many are investing in cat food as product of the future. I can barely imagine how this landscape will look like in 30 years but given that women's happiness comes from people and not from things, lacking a family and having a career will have very detrimental effects. It's with reason 25 percent of US women are on antidepressant and anti anxiety medication already, with 42 year old career woman earning 100k a year the least happy demographic. In line with the rise of emancipation women's happiness has gone down yearly since the 70s and this will exacerbate. Living alone won't be good for men either but they'll be able to cope with it better, plus men have longer time to disentangle the delusions of modern society, for a woman it's over at 40 and often they realize their position on the chessboard too late.
Spot on. As for the talk of there being a great many unmarried females in their 30's who're sweet little angels, I'm sure there are a few, but they constitute a small minority at best. There have been cases of men surviving falling from an aeroplane without a parachute; notwithstanding these I'd strongly advise against the idea of leaving your parachutes at home should you decide to go sky-diving ha ha.
 

MsJNix

 
Banned
Woman
Catholic
That's interesting, there's a couple of points here.

1. I'd say there's a line of men waiting to marry almost any woman. But is that the man she wants? Average women nowadays want above average men due to boundless hypergamy that has been created by taking away all boundaries on male/female partner seeking strategies. The pattern usually is a woman declining multiple proposals in her 20s and early 30s then to realize in their later 30s that she's played the casino to long and her credit is running out.

2. Many men, at least if they're wise, wouldn't get into marriage. Unless she's very religious and the chances of splitting up are minimal due to restraining factors such as religion and community. Any sane secular man getting in a marriage with a divorce rate of over 50 percent and an 80 percent chance of the woman initiating divorce and then taking you to the cleaners and ruin your life in the courts that are set up specifically to destroy the livelihood of set man is beyond my imagination. Fact is that a woman loves a man til she doesn't (opportunistically vs the idealistical perspective of men) and if she can initiate a divorce and take the house, alimony, your money and your children because she "feels like it" at a whim or because a better socio-economic option comes around, you're setting yourself up for destruction as a man. What I've realised is that when a woman's feelings are perceivably hurt by a man she'll often try nothing short of annihalating the man, while they could've been together for 40 years.

3. Most women want to live a promiscuous lifestyle in their 20s then crying out in their 30s as in their pride the men they want to provide and protect for them doesn't show up. Actions have results and women are not taught that anymore. There are no male family figures preparing her for her role in life. Society, Cardi B and Nicky Minaj are her go to figures of influence. Moreover most women don't have wife qualities and features, they usually have no idea how to keep a man around and what a man expects of a serious relationship. Also most women want to remain living a single lifestyle while married or in a relationships, with the nights out etc. It doesn't work that way but in modern society most women want to keep their options open to some extent, which is very disrespectful to her man. You can't expect a man to be traditional and being non traditional yourself. If a woman doesn't know her traditional role in marriage, is a semi-man due to the competitive/dominant/conflict seeking qualities she has learned by society and in her career, there is not much for a man to win and the woman is a liability instead of an asset.

4. It's all nice and good to ask men to men up now, but how are we supposed to know what being a man and taking responsibility and leadership is if no one has taught us that? There's no strong fathers around anymore usually, we're told to be emotional weak creatures, we're told that trad masculinity is bad. While women are being set in the wrong direction by making them effectively men, don't underestimate how much men are psychologically conditioned in the feminine, with the result of an ocean of rudderless little boys who have no idea about masculinity, truth and who are and are supposed to be.

We're all getting wrecked by the same system. The men vs women narrative is a false one: the same thumbscrews are in effect for the both of us. Entire modern society is set up not to have long term, healthy, fulfilling, satisfying relationships for both men and women, which will result sadly in a lot of people living by themselves for their entire life in the future, estimations for women e.g. being more than 50 percent in working age range by 2030. The cat meme isn't a joke unfortunately and it's with reason that many are investing in cat food as product of the future. I can barely imagine how this landscape will look like in 30 years but given that women's happiness comes from people and not from things, lacking a family and having a career will have very detrimental effects. It's with reason 25 percent of US women are on antidepressant and anti anxiety medication already, with 42 year old career woman earning 100k a year the least happy demographic. In line with the rise of emancipation women's happiness has gone down yearly since the 70s and this will exacerbate. Living alone won't be good for men either but they'll be able to cope with it better, plus men have longer time to disentangle the delusions of modern society, for a woman it's over at 40 and often they realize their position on the chessboard too late.
I agree with some of what you said but not all. Women do not get multiple proposals in their 20s. That is just not true. Women buy magazines with wedding photos from the time they are in their teens and they dream about their wedding day. Have you not seen the tv shows about buying a wedding dress and planning weddings? Men don't watch those shows. Women want to get married, men want to live with their girlfriends. That is just a fact. Most relationships don't break up because a woman makes a lot of money and has a career. Where are these 42 year old women making 100k? Most women I know do not even have a career. They mostly work in education or in healthcare, and they do not make a lot of money. Where are these promiscuous women in their 20s you talk about? You must hang out in bars a lot. That is the only place you will find those kind of women. I don't know any. My daughters are not like that and their friends are not like that. Their cousins are not like that. Women can be picky about who they want to marry but men can be the same. A small flaw in the woman they are dating can end a potentially good relationship. People expect perfection and that is just not going to happen. If she can't cook, so what? If he hates shopping, just don't make him do it. Why would a man even choose a woman who is a semi-man and does not know her role? I think that is a good place to draw the line. Maybe you are right about men not knowing how to take leadership roles and be responsible. That is where I agree with you.


 
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