Bar owner, prosecuted for killing in self-defense, commits suicide

bomp

Pigeon
Committed suicide my ass. They greased the guy because dead men tell no lies.
Gardner’s kindness really shined as he explained that though he supports the president, he also supported the Women’s March and their right to be heard.
Dunno about that. The outside of the bar looks pretty "modern," the guy has long hair, and is blue-pilled about women. I could see someone like that struggling to get grip and giving into the worst kind of despair.
 
I'm putting on my tin foil cap here but perhaps Gardner's suicide was a sham and he is in some kind of witness protection like program. Gardner was obviously justified in defending himself and as far as I know the shooting was recorded. If this is the case then he would have won the case and if that had happened BLM would have gone hysterical and begun the usual routine of rioting and looting. It could be that his death was faked and he is someplace safe.

Also, Antifa and BLM have been threatening him and his family I believe so if he had won the case as he no doubt would have then he would have to constantly worry about the safety of his loved ones. He may very well be in a witness protection like program.

I hope so. The soul is in a fearful place after suicide...

Christ have mercy on Gardner
 

Pendleton

Kingfisher
It was a great country and you might still be able to have a fine life in a country that will resemble more Brazil in the future. But it won't be the US anymore - and if you happen to be white, then you better be well-insulated or wealthy, because you will be increasingly treated like in South Africa.

Brazil? That seems pretty optimistic. Brazilification and imperial collapse were the threats people like Pat Buchanan rightly held up in the 90s when it was clear we were reaching the demographic tipping point. We've now tipped and been demographically gutted. Now we face the consequences. Demographics, concentration of wealth, Big Tech and the surveillance state suggest we'll be facing something like a turbocharged version of 1930s Ukraine or China's Great Leap Forward. We may simply collapse and become Brazil (i.e., poor, corrupt and brown) but the signs suggest we're instead seeing the emergence of one of history's great monsters. People had to live through such things in Russia, Eastern Europe, China, Cambodia, all of Africa, etc. No reason the US should be any different.
 

Days of Broken Arrows

Crow
Gold Member
I doubt he was killed. He was a veteran and the suicide rate among vets is said to be about double the average rate. He was a suicide risk anyway.

He put his life on the line for a country that planned on locking him up for defending himself. If that doesn't drive you to suicide, I don't know what will.

What did he fight for, exactly? So that we could have Third World-styled "justice?" I'm sure he thought this.

Beyond all that, I doubt he was killed because the government drones and BLM nutjobs would have loved nothing more than seeing a kangaroo court find an innocent white man guilty. He was "the great white defendant," to quote an old Tom Wolfe phrase.
 

AWright

Robin
I'm from the area and actually was downtown the night it happened getting food and decided to see what was going on a few blocks away. I left the area about 20 minutes before the shooting as the police were pushing the rioters down the middle of the old market from the police headquarters with tear gas and pepper balls. People started running downtown with smashing business windows and breaking car windows. Things were getting too heated for my liking so I left. As for his business, I didn't care for it. It had the most SJW views when it came to women of any bar in the city, I was banned from it 5 years ago for pulling chicks too often and they didn't like it. It basically had an anti-pickup policy and they were open about that policy. I have never had any issues with any venue, ever except for this one. The security was known for it's massive ego's and white knighting. I've heard it's become even more SJW over the past several years in the "Me Too" era.
It was clearly self defense, the shooting was. This guy had been in the cross hairs of left in the city for years. It started 5 years ago when he made some transgender comments on Facebook and asked patrons to use the restroom of their biological sex. He became even more of a target with Trump and his open support of Trump, he held Trump campaign events at his venue and was deemed racist and transphobic. When I initially heard reports it was him who killed a rioter, I thought it was just fake news because he had been in the left's crosshairs for so long and was basically a boogey man to them in Omaha. It was so clearly self defense, a rioter pushed his dad down and he told him to back off and showed him the gun he had on his waist. Two guys then rush him and take him down and he fires two shots in the air and they get off of him. James Scurlock then rushes him from behind and and gets him in a headlock, he tells the guy to get off of him twice, till he shots him in the neck/shoulder area. He got charged with 4 felonies, 1 for terroristic threats for showing his gun and telling the person to back off when the rioter pushed his dad to ground. Another for firing two warning shots after being taken to the ground, attempted assault with a firearm. Another, manslaughter, for killing James when he would have likely been killed had he not done so. I forgot the fourth one but he was looking at 95 years in jail.
The way the left in the city ran with it was absurd. They made claims that his bar was a front for white nationalism and Identity Evropa. That if one looked the logos of the bar it had 1488 hidden in it, straight up delusional shit. This is an article that went around, read it if you want to see how delusional the rabbit holes goes. https://medium.com/@ryandwilkins/if-you-die-no-one-would-blink-an-eye-7664c5d63f51
The left in the city ran with the idea that he had a swaztika tattoo on his chest and was calling the rioters a pack of n***ers. He was clearly a broken man as his reputation had been tarnished, he had lost his business (company cut his lease a couple days after shooting), it was self defense but the kangaroo courts I think would have seen otherwise, his prospects in jail were not going to be good, and he had PTSD as a veteran. I thought he was going to try to flee the country as I've heard he is a millionaire and had resources, I would have if I was in his position. In the end it was all too much and he decided to end it, I do feel bad as I do think the guy was a decent person. Had he been a black business owner who was attacked by a white thug, it would have been a local new story for a couple days but since he was a white business owner shooting a black thug, he was deemed a white supremacist, because every person who isn't "Woke" is complicit and therefore a white supremacist nowadays.
 

Pendleton

Kingfisher
The way the left in the city ran with it was absurd. They made claims that his bar was a front for white nationalism and Identity Evropa. That if one looked the logos of the bar it had 1488 hidden in it, straight up delusional shit. This is an article that went around, read it if you want to see how delusional the rabbit holes goes. https://medium.com/@ryandwilkins/if-you-die-no-one-would-blink-an-eye-7664c5d63f51

The Ryan Wilkins who wrote this comes across as deranged (and is) but he is also an established attorney and GC of a large company in Omaha. People like this are more the problem than the riff raff out in the street.
 
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Pendleton

Kingfisher
This article goes into more detail about Gardner's harassment by local leftists over the years, including Wilkins and government employees. It seems his crime was showing the hint of a spine and not happily allowing himself to be victimized by blacks, trannies, leftists, etc. That set off the hyena pack.

 

get2choppaaa

Woodpecker
I doubt he was killed. He was a veteran and the suicide rate among vets is said to be about double the average rate. He was a suicide risk anyway.

He put his life on the line for a country that planned on locking him up for defending himself. If that doesn't drive you to suicide, I don't know what will.

What did he fight for, exactly? So that we could have Third World-styled "justice?" I'm sure he thought this.

Beyond all that, I doubt he was killed because the government drones and BLM nutjobs would have loved nothing more than seeing a kangaroo court find an innocent white man guilty. He was "the great white defendant," to quote an old Tom Wolfe phrase.


He absolutely killed himself. Vet suicide, especially among combat arms vets who deployed or vets who deployed in support of combat ops is incredibly high. The whole thing is a tragedy, but a clear example of if you are white, dont shoot a black man, even if you're having deadly force via a choke hold levied against you.
 

SpyofMoses

Pigeon
I'm putting on my tin foil cap here but perhaps Gardner's suicide was a sham and he is in some kind of witness protection like program. Gardner was obviously justified in defending himself and as far as I know the shooting was recorded. If this is the case then he would have won the case and if that had happened BLM would have gone hysterical and begun the usual routine of rioting and looting. It could be that his death was faked and he is someplace safe.

Also, Antifa and BLM have been threatening him and his family I believe so if he had won the case as he no doubt would have then he would have to constantly worry about the safety of his loved ones. He may very well be in a witness protection like program.

I hope so. The soul is in a fearful place after suicide...

Christ have mercy on Gardner

I won't say I believe this, but I think it's at least possible. I want to believe this.
 

Pendleton

Kingfisher
I won't say I believe this, but I think it's at least possible. I want to believe this.

The entire system worked like a well-oiled machine to destroy him. The government consists of the zealots who actively wanted to destroy him and cowards like the county attorney who bowed to the mob and let it happen. There aren't any secret good guys in the government waiting to swoop in and save the day, comforting though it would be to pretend there is. Nebraska is the place that elects Ben Sasse and members of the Ricketts family. It is ground zero for cucked whites and NeverTrumpers. The thought process for many there is "oh, I heard he said something racist once so I guess he brought this on himself. Anyway, sad and all but best not to make a fuss about it."
 

Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
The rot in the US is deep. It goes all the way down to the average man on the street. Even the people who describe themselves as right wing, Christian, etc. are generally just not good people. I'm an American expatriate and am always shocked at the low quality of the people whenever I return.
Yes, the rot goes far deeper than "there are some bad leftists here."

The average leftist when I was growing up in the USA was someone who wanted immigration controls to protect wages, environmental laws to keep our water and air clean, and more money for our schools. I can't even find someone that normal on the political spectrum today.
 

Pendleton

Kingfisher
Yes, the rot goes far deeper than "there are some bad leftists here."

The average leftist when I was growing up in the USA was someone who wanted immigration controls to protect wages, environmental laws to keep our water and air clean, and more money for our schools. I can't even find someone that normal on the political spectrum today.

Our demographics had been destroyed by the late 90s and politically things fell apart soon after. Now it is all Marxists, perverts, suicide cultists, oligarch puppets, warmongers, Israel firsters, etc. And that includes the GOP. Just wanting to enforce our lax immigration laws puts you on the farthest fringes of the right.
 

LeoniusD

Kingfisher
I doubt he was killed. He was a veteran and the suicide rate among vets is said to be about double the average rate. He was a suicide risk anyway.

He put his life on the line for a country that planned on locking him up for defending himself. If that doesn't drive you to suicide, I don't know what will.

What did he fight for, exactly? So that we could have Third World-styled "justice?" I'm sure he thought this.

Beyond all that, I doubt he was killed because the government drones and BLM nutjobs would have loved nothing more than seeing a kangaroo court find an innocent white man guilty. He was "the great white defendant," to quote an old Tom Wolfe phrase.

I agree - though obviously it depends on whether he was put into a prison with his 300 pounds bunkmate Jamal.

Still - you have to look at it from his viewpoint - the guy was a believer - a true believer in the American Way of old, a believer in Trump, he believed that the constitution and the old rule of law would protect him as he just defended himself. He was declared innocent twice before being politically charged like in some politburo sham trial. We don't know his additional situation - divorced, probably Blue-Pilled since he supported woman's marches, then likely financially ruined since he would lose his bar anyway. He may be saddled with hundreds of thousands in debt with no idea of how to pay it all back. I think that he was a nice guy who unfortunately was both blue pilled in terms of women and feminism as well blue pilled in terms of politics, trump, republicans and the state of the USA. Those men commit suicide relatively often as their view of the world crumbles before their eyes.

For most of us this story is no surprise. Occasionally you have cases like with Kyle Rittenhouse that got enough publicity and plenty of witnesses and footage, that you know that he can walk free, can even sue the media for millions for calling him a murderer. Countless lawyers said that they would defend him pro bono. But not everyone can be Kyle - there are many out there like Jake with lousy footage and no glory left. They will be dropped by society as the elite is doing what they set out to do - destroy the US and the people who created it.
 

Pendleton

Kingfisher
For most of us this story is no surprise.

It should be. The legal system has screwed people acting in self-defense for a long time but this is a particularly egregious case and a sign that things have become much worse. This wasn't a case of some black being shot while breaking into a house looking for drug money. It was a mini-insurrection, hordes of Communist thugs were rioting and attacking people. He was attacked by multiple people after his property had already been vandalized. He issued multiple warnings. He was being choked when he fired the shot. It was not just his word against the thug. There is video. The county attorney refused to even charge Gardner until a lynch mob showed up at his house and demanded he reconsider.

And this is against the backdrop of him having been harassed by local leftists, including some in government, for years beforehand and Big Tech mobilizing to prevent him from raising money for his defense.

It is a very recent development for left wing activists and politicians, street thugs and Big Tech to be this violent and authoritarian and this effective in working together. The closest we saw in the past was the Sharpton/Jesse Jackson led reactions to police shootings but that was amateur hour compared to this and didn't target private citizens. Even Zimmerman didn't face this sort of rabid response despite having fewer facts in his favor.
 

andy dufresne

Kingfisher
Yes, the rot goes far deeper than "there are some bad leftists here."

The average leftist when I was growing up in the USA was someone who wanted immigration controls to protect wages, environmental laws to keep our water and air clean, and more money for our schools. I can't even find someone that normal on the political spectrum today.

I am that person. I'm an outdoorsman and have great respect for the environment and our place in it. I grew up support Democrat talking points, supporting feminist ideals and all that claptrap. It wasn't until a few years ago that I realized my 'liberalism' was self defeating and the nu-Democrats have only one goal: Destroying this country and turning into a socialistic shithole.

MY GF is still an old School Democrat but since she is a chick she hasn't gone through the snow job that they've put white males through. All this 'Patriarchy' crap and all that. I told her that they've torn white guys to shreds and that white woman are next on their hit list and she better wake up soon. It's only a matter of time.
 
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