Bernie Sanders' famous last words in Seattle

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bacan

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I don't think this will kill his campaign at all; I don't even think it will hurt it and there is a chance it could even help it. I think he came away looking like the level-headed one in this case. In the future, he probably realizes he needs better security.

Assuming that there is anything to be learned from how he dealt with some rude protesters to predict how he would handle international diplomatic negotiations is quite unreasonable in my opinion.

Bernie Sanders has a very liberal base and the optics of them being dragged off the stage kicking and screaming would have been 100x worse.

Edited to add: Man, those girls are some seriously dumb cunts. Nice job setting back the black lives matter movement with the very constituency (liberal Sanders supporters) that were most likely to support you anyway.
 

Grange

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Bernie Sanders never had a chance anyway but think of how his fans see this. They're sympathetic to the protesters. In their minds the best thing Bernie could do is stand aside and let them speak. Silencing them would be oppression, even if it was his event they interrupted.
 
scorpion said:
I didn't see this thread earlier, so I'll repost what I said in the Trump thread:

I can't emphasize enough how devastating the Black Lives Matters speech shutdown will be for the Sanders campaign. People don't realize it yet, but he's done. He's dead. They just totally killed his campaign. A man vying to be the leader of the free world and Commander in chief of the U.S. military was bullied off his own stage by two fat, shrill young women. He was totally and completely emasculated and left to sulk in the corner. The optics of this were horrible for him. The attacks ads write themselves: "If Bernie Sanders can't even stand up against protestors, how is he going to stand up to Russia, Iran and China?" If the Democratic primary remains close, Hillary will eviscerate him with ads like that in swing states. In politics, the only thing worse than being perceived as unlikeable (Hillary) is being perceived as weak (Sanders). In fact, this event will prove to be so beneficial to Hillary's campaign that I'm almost ready to believe it was orchestrated by pro-Hillary forces explicitly to derail Sanders.

Biden's entry to the race just got more likely, but if he declines to run then Hillary just sealed the nomination for herself. This was really a stunning turn of events. I mean, look at the picture below. He's just done for now. This kind of weakness is appalling in a Presidential candidate, and will not be forgiven, even by Democratic primary voters.

BernieSandersBlackLives.jpg

Is he crying?
 

lskdfjldsf

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I posted about this phenomena here: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-48360-post-1077268.html#pid1077268

Simply put, there are too many people shouting in the same room. The Democrat / Republican dynamic can only survive when competing political interests are kept in broad concrete terms (big government vs. small government, rich vs. poor, isolationist vs. interventionist). World War II and the Cold War gave us common ideological and economic enemies as a nation, keeping discourse broad and inclusive.

The "sexual revolution" and other 1960's movements split America into competing or allied personal identity factions (feminists, gays, atheists, religious right) while the 1965 Immigration Act divided America along three main ethnic lines (Whites, Blacks, Hispanics) also in competition. These two things fundamentally altered the cultural and demographic makeup of the United States and rendered the two-party system obsolete. Academia and the media later reinforced the post-60's fragmentation of society using "state policy" political correctness, a topic of much discussion here.

The Democrats cannot indefinitely maintain the loyalty of three competing ethnic factions under a single roof, itself broken down into smaller personal identity factions. "Diversity" and the spread of information via the internet will continue to polarize the country along ethnic lines (police shootings, riots, immigration concerns, etc.)

These groups are beginning to turn on each other. Blue-collar union voters in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, and other swing states will consider moderate or populist Republican candidates as these extremist fringe groups dominate the headlines. This video shows militant black supremacists (by their own admission, #AllLives don't matter) shutting down a Jewish self-proclaimed Socialist. Bob the boilermaker in Harrisburg will want no part of it.

2016 is the perfect storm for both parties.
 

chagataev

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Disappointing performance from Sanders. He handled the disruption at the thing where they did the same to Martin O'Malley better, and he did take a harsh tone with one of the girls here. But still there are no two ways about it, this was very, very bad form from him. Hopefully if this happens again he will react appropriately.
 

Cr33pin

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Lion of Judah said:
scorpion said:
I didn't see this thread earlier, so I'll repost what I said in the Trump thread:

I can't emphasize enough how devastating the Black Lives Matters speech shutdown will be for the Sanders campaign. People don't realize it yet, but he's done. He's dead. They just totally killed his campaign. A man vying to be the leader of the free world and Commander in chief of the U.S. military was bullied off his own stage by two fat, shrill young women. He was totally and completely emasculated and left to sulk in the corner. The optics of this were horrible for him. The attacks ads write themselves: "If Bernie Sanders can't even stand up against protestors, how is he going to stand up to Russia, Iran and China?" If the Democratic primary remains close, Hillary will eviscerate him with ads like that in swing states. In politics, the only thing worse than being perceived as unlikeable (Hillary) is being perceived as weak (Sanders). In fact, this event will prove to be so beneficial to Hillary's campaign that I'm almost ready to believe it was orchestrated by pro-Hillary forces explicitly to derail Sanders.

Biden's entry to the race just got more likely, but if he declines to run then Hillary just sealed the nomination for herself. This was really a stunning turn of events. I mean, look at the picture below. He's just done for now. This kind of weakness is appalling in a Presidential candidate, and will not be forgiven, even by Democratic primary voters.

BernieSandersBlackLives.jpg

Is he crying?
 

Dusty

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The funny thing is, Seattle is a white and Asian city. It has just about the lowest number of blacks than any major city in the USA. I think only Portland has fewer blacks.
 

zaqan

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Captainstabbin said:
How will Bernie handle international matters? The same way he handled these shrill, pointless women - he caved to what they wanted and stood in the back like a good boy.

If he can't handle a woman, how can he handle Putin?

Imagine if this happened with Trump: "Security, drop these whores in the East River." Or, since they're in Seattle, Elliott Bay.
haha Exactly and exactly. Not a Trump supporter, but his dominant frame in the debate is exactly what we need.

Chauncey said:
When the crowd asked the activists to allow Sanders to speak, one activist called the crowd "white supremacist liberals," according to event participants. Participants also said a Black Lives Matter activist confronted Sanders, stating he needed "to be held accountable".

That is not something you hear everyday.
That is what they are. Do you think SWPLs really care about blacks? Do BLMs care about free college and healthcare?

Ziltoid said:
There is a buzz that this is possibly related to his stance on Israel/Palestine.
How is BLM even related to that?

Blick Mang said:
Politics has always been about identity here. Its just that until the 70s, the country was 85% white, 10% black, and 5% other. Now with whites reduced to 65%, the cleavages are more visible.

Dusty said:
The funny thing is, Seattle is a white and Asian city. It has just about the lowest number of blacks than any major city in the USA. I think only Portland has fewer blacks.
Interesting, I did not know that. I remember seeing subway info in Japanese when I was there once. That must be why they can get so deep into actual socialism like Scandinavia.
 
Captainstabbin said:
$1000 says these bitches were paid by Hilary's campaign.

That's what I've been thinking.

George Soros is a generous contributor to Hillary's campaign. His funding is behind these blacklives protest groups too. My guess is that Soros and Clinton conspired to break up this speech by Sanders. The protesters shouted down Sanders a few weeks ago at some liberal net roots convention.
 
scorpion said:
I didn't see this thread earlier, so I'll repost what I said in the Trump thread:

I can't emphasize enough how devastating the Black Lives Matters speech shutdown will be for the Sanders campaign. People don't realize it yet, but he's done. He's dead. They just totally killed his campaign. A man vying to be the leader of the free world and Commander in chief of the U.S. military was bullied off his own stage by two fat, shrill young women. He was totally and completely emasculated and left to sulk in the corner. The optics of this were horrible for him. The attacks ads write themselves: "If Bernie Sanders can't even stand up against protestors, how is he going to stand up to Russia, Iran and China?" If the Democratic primary remains close, Hillary will eviscerate him with ads like that in swing states. In politics, the only thing worse than being perceived as unlikeable (Hillary) is being perceived as weak (Sanders). In fact, this event will prove to be so beneficial to Hillary's campaign that I'm almost ready to believe it was orchestrated by pro-Hillary forces explicitly to derail Sanders.

Biden's entry to the race just got more likely, but if he declines to run then Hillary just sealed the nomination for herself. This was really a stunning turn of events. I mean, look at the picture below. He's just done for now. This kind of weakness is appalling in a Presidential candidate, and will not be forgiven, even by Democratic primary voters.

BernieSandersBlackLives.jpg

The problem with progressives is that they tend to be the most PC-whipped and fem-whipped men who you'll ever meet. Sanders is actually a good guy with reasonable ideas, but he needs some backbone. Letting a bunch of fat women take the microphone and scream inanity is a sign of weakness.

Sanders can take on Wall Street banks and crooked politicians, but he's intimidated by a few tubby angry women. It's bizarre.

Sanders could learn something from Trump.



 

Vacancier Permanent

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I also didn't see this thread, so going to post here what I posted in the Trump thread about this incident.

I've rarely seen a more striking contrast than that pic. On one hand, you have 2 worthless thugettes standing with the bravado of Hercules and on the right in the back, an equally worthless and clearly defeated old man completely resigned and sulking at his own powerlessness.

What a tragic scene!

This is a clear call for the Trump to clear all this garbage and steer the Mother Ship America again in the right direction.

TheWastelander said:
 

Dr. Howard

 
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Fast Eddie said:
"Thank you Seattle for being one of the most Progressive cities in the United States of America!"



I know it's usually frowned upon here to post articles and videos without a touch of commentary or analysis, but in this particular case I think the irony is so clear that any attempt on my part to put it into words would not do it justice. So I'll just leave off with:


WB the thinner black girl with the long braids and no glasses, she'd be awesome in bed.
 
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