Best of the Anglosphere to settle in 2020?

TheFinalEpic

Pelican
Gold Member
Any thoughts on Vienna, or Austria (I know we're getting out of the Anglosphere here but only just).

I am in agreement with Scotian about smaller Canadian cities, even some of the "larger" ones that are close to the mountains/ocean are solid choices. Edmonton/Calgary are pretty solid, and Alberta as a whole is a bit more traditionally insulated than the rest of the country.
 
@vatuvei

What are the major cons to Malta?

Does its proximity to Africa cause a problem with migrants/refugees?

Why is there a high turnover of language students coming through - just a sunny place to learn english? What sort of ethnic groups seem to predominate among the women? How is the overall dating scene compare to other places you have been?

The more you could share would be greatly appreciated.
 

vatuvei

Pigeon
@vatuvei

What are the major cons to Malta?

Does its proximity to Africa cause a problem with migrants/refugees?

Why is there a high turnover of language students coming through - just a sunny place to learn english? What sort of ethnic groups seem to predominate among the women? How is the overall dating scene compare to other places you have been?

The more you could share would be greatly appreciated.
The occasional refugee boat lands but it's not a problem yet, most seem to head to Italy.

Two major industries in Malta that attract students and expats:
1. English Language Schools (yes just a cheaper sunnier place to learn English than UK) - loads of Colombians and other Latina's, also Asians and Europeans from everywhere
2. Igaming - Scandinavians

The dating scene is degenerate Anglosphere and ratios are good. It might be possible to find relationship material but that would require lots of luck. Google Paceville if you want to check nightlife.

It feels not unlike a Spanish or Greek island ie there's a lot of hot women in holiday mode but you wouldn't want to live there forever.
Main cons are poor infrastructure, bad roads & traffic, construction noise but you can mitigate this if you select location carefully.
If you settle around St Julians it's just a 10 minute walk to beaches, gyms, restaurants and bars.

PM if you wish
 
I used to date a woman from Malta and got to visit her friends and family there. It was a beautiful country in terms of the nature and architecture. The culture and language were also interesting. The people were friendly, but I don't think it would be a great place for someone to move who isn't of Maltese heritage. I remember there were cities/towns that had a lot of expats in them, but I still don't think I'd recommend it. Great place to travel though. Malta and Gozo were pretty small islands, and seem to be getting built up quite quick, which make it good for traveling but not as much for moving, IMO.

There were a fair amount of refugees in certain areas, but overall it didn't seem too bad. It was interesting because even though the culture seemed to be getting fairly degenerate (of course, my experience was limited) like other Western countries, there was an element of authentic culture, friendship, and roots that people had there that is missing from the United States, where people move frequently and have their roots & culture erased. Instead of moving to another country, though, I recommend staying in the U.S., moving to a better location, and helping build an authentic pro-Western, Americana type culture. To each their own though.
 
I would look at Perth, Australia. I think it'll be one of the last holdouts for Anglo culture and lifestyle.

Property prices are cheap (for the country), there are jobs, high wages, laid back lifestyle, lots of beaches, weather is perfect, no traffic (20min max drive to almost anything), good infrastructure, Aussies still drive the taxis (inc. women). I heard it's the most 'Anglo' capital city in Australia or even the world? (do your own research).
How easy would it be to show up there and get a job that allows one to get by? Would an American be able to show up and get a job driving a taxi (or whatever job)? Or would one have to go through the Visa process beforehand?

After all this pandemic BS is over, of course...
 
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ginsu

Robin
How easy would it be to show up there and get a job that allows one to get by? Would an American be able to show up and get a job driving a taxi? Or would one have to go through the Visa process beforehand?

After all this pandemic BS is over, of course...
Most likely this pandemic BS will not be over. So you have to account for that while looking at places. What would it be like to live there WHILE this pandemic enforcement is coming down hard. So far most of the world is completely on board with this hoax, so until there is solid proof that countries break away from the narrative then we have to assume it will stay.
 

PixelFree

Kingfisher
How easy would it be to show up there and get a job that allows one to get by? Would an American be able to show up and get a job driving a taxi (or whatever job)? Or would one have to go through the Visa process beforehand?

After all this pandemic BS is over, of course...
You'd have to check it out yourself or ask someone who has done it.

200k each year from China and India seem to rock up here and get a job just fine, but for some reason Europeans/Westerners don't seem to arrive in big numbers. I suspect either one group is favoured over the other, or one group is willing to be a bit more deceitful on their applications.
 

Speculation

Kingfisher
You'd have to check it out yourself or ask someone who has done it.

200k each year from China and India seem to rock up here and get a job just fine, but for some reason Europeans/Westerners don't seem to arrive in big numbers. I suspect either one group is favoured over the other, or one group is willing to be a bit more deceitful on their applications.
Many of the Asians/Indians are students who pay full fees at Australian universities. There is an immigration pipeline for students where after they have paid their dues by injecting daddy's cash into the local economy they can apply for permanent residency if they can find a job in an industry where there is a skill shortage.

Australia is notoriously difficult to emigrate to for any other group (including refugees, despite our whinging). About as difficult to get into as Canada, but without the backdoor for Americans. The backdoor is reserved for New Zealanders here.

I would still look into it, particularly if you are on the medium/long term skill shortage list which will help you qualify through our points system.

The list includes occupations like Accountant, Nurse, Engineer, Doctor, ICT Specialists and most trades (Plumber, Electrician, Welder etc).

The starting point is our Dept of Immigration
 

PixelFree

Kingfisher
Many of the Asians/Indians are students who pay full fees at Australian universities. There is an immigration pipeline for students where after they have paid their dues by injecting daddy's cash into the local economy they can apply for permanent residency if they can find a job in an industry where there is a skill shortage.

Australia is notoriously difficult to emigrate to for any other group (including refugees, despite our whinging). About as difficult to get into as Canada, but without the backdoor for Americans. The backdoor is reserved for New Zealanders here.
Accurate.
 
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Deepdiver

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Montana during hunting season has a certain appeal especially for men from gun neutered places like UK, OZ, Canuckistan etc:

 

STG

Robin
I've spent a fair chunk of my adult life in Perth so I feel that I need to comment here.

Perth is all the things PixelFree has said, but be aware that there is a huge amount of competition for attractive women in Perth. The city is a mining town in its roots. Women from around Australia tend to move to the cosmopolitan cities of Melbourne and Sydney, while men tend to move where the career opportunities are, which includes more frontier cities such as Perth and Darwin.

During the local mining boom which ended roughly 5 years ago, many tradesmen and engineers from around the nation and the world moved to Perth, exacerbating the already bad gender balance in the 20-40 age range. As has been noted in other posts on the old boards, there is a strong gym culture in Australia, and this combined with the heavy gender imbalance means that it is more difficult (but not impossible) to land an attractive girl. This has continued to the point where finding a long term mate was one of the major drives pushing me to leave Perth. I've had no problems meeting girls in Melbourne/Brisbane/Sydney or overseas, but for the above reasons my options were limited in Perth.

I would suggest that you don't move to Perth looking for a partner, but move there after you've already found one or when finding one is no longer your concern. I don't mean to come off as doomsaying, but after a lifetime traveling the world and years in the nightlife/single environment in Perth, I know of what I speak.

On top of this, Perth's culture (derived from its isolation) is very 'cliquey' where the locals already have long established social networks. I'm wildly generalising here, but people spend their weekends having BBQs with their mates who they have known from high school. Its hard to crack these social networks, not out of xenophobia (although there is a small amount of that), but benignly because people have enough friends and don't have the social free slots or time commitment to make new deep friendships.

All of that said, Perth's isolation breeds a robust culture that is one of the most resistant to the pozzing that has already infested Melbourne and Sydney. It is as far as I'm aware, one of the most resistant holdouts to progressive culture in the Anglosphere. The rot will spread there eventually, but where else are you really going to go to enjoy the benefits of Anglo culture in the decline?
In my research I have found that some of the best places that are left in the western world for a man to live have a shortage of quality women.

As you said women are more likely to be drawn to the big cities, the cosmopolitan lifestyle, the sex and the city ideals, and the shopping and consumption opportunities. These are the same places not ideal for a traditional minded man to live. Housing is expensive and you have to deal with the celebrations of diversity.

I think this is a theme through the western world. What you said about Perth is true to the U.S. as well. You can find a place in the U.S. that is like going back in time 30 years ago but most likely the women who stayed married their highschool sweetheart. Most of the women will have left for the Marxist education system and moved to a big city. Some of them come back when they are ready to settle down with their husbands after they have had their fun in the city.
 
Any thoughts on Vienna, or Austria (I know we're getting out of the Anglosphere here but only just).

I am in agreement with Scotian about smaller Canadian cities, even some of the "larger" ones that are close to the mountains/ocean are solid choices. Edmonton/Calgary are pretty solid, and Alberta as a whole is a bit more traditionally insulated than the rest of the country.
I lived in Vienna for 9 years. I personally think it is a leftist sh**hole and the Viennese are dull and passive (in Southeastern Europe we are much more outgoing by default).

It is a good gateway for Czechia and Slovakia, as well as Slovenia. The city itself is slowly deteriorating. You have Turkish districts and some African parts up north where Floridsdorf is. Prepare for leftist parades and retarded placards, as well as quite a few Karl Marx libraries. Chechenians, Jews and Somalis sitting close by in the U6 which feels a lot like orient express.

An English speaker will have more fun with the other expats than with the locals. Also, learning German only made things worse for me. People are indifferent either way but like to practice their English more than to start another empty conversation in their own language. Americans were getting good treatment when I was there, but don't tell the locals that you voted for the bad Orange man. It is the same in any German speaking territory I guess.

To give them their due, it is an extremely organized city with stunning architecture while housing is not as expensive as the other Western European capitals (yet). Wages that permit for a very decent life despite the taxation. Especially if one does the wise thing and leaves Austria every weekend or holiday in direction East.
 

GibsMeDat

Sparrow
The Netherlands is an honourary Anglosphere country given their very impressive English. The country is beautiful and there's lots to do. Not sure about settling down though.
 
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