Beta characters of tv/movies

CRR said:
I Love You Man was on the other night. I've seen it before, it has it's moments.

What stuck out to me was in the main group of women there was the annoying friend who was always complaining about being single. I thought this was interesting because to me this would be an example of a beta woman, if there was such a thing.

It seems like every group of women has this friend, the one that's certainly not a circus freak nor even overweight really. But also unpleasant to be around and not as attractive or funny as her friends think she is, at least certainly not from a man's perspective. And always available.

Just watched this, funny movie.

I can't believe no one else caught this. Vince Vaughn blurts out can anyone tell me where is a pet shop at some point with no relation to the story. Shout out to Vince, belated welcome to the forum. Also in the same movie he says "thats redonkulas." Clearly a second manosphere reference.

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AnonymousBosch

 
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Rhyme or Reason said:
South Park isn't funny. Hasn't been in a very long time. Watching older TV shows (the wonder years) makes it glaringly obvious how the art of subtlety is utterly foreign to modern TV and movies.

I grew up with 1970's television.

 

MajorStyles

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AnonymousBosch said:
Off The Reservation said:
brady bunch etc.

"It's one world, and we all have to learn to live with each other."

Sherwood Schwartz, Brady Bunch creator. You can guess the religion and strain easily enough.

Schwartz was addicted to subterfuge. Let's not forget another one of his creations, Harper Valley PTA. A single mother, Barbara Eden, ridicules the small-town residents of Harper Valley on a weekly basis. In short, hooray for the virtuous single mother and shame on the two-parent Christian families of small-town America.

At least Schwartz gave us Gilligan's Island. That was alright, for the most part. But I'm sure if I took a closer look, I could find his slimy fingerprints throughout the series.
 
TV: Alan Harper from Two And A Half Men. The dude gets divorce raped twice, befriends the man fucking his ex wife, his own son doesn't respect him, acts autistic around pretty women, and acts submissive to his bitchy mom.

Movie: Forrest Gump. Dude has a severe case of oneitis. Spends his whole life white knighting and orbitting his sloot childhood girlfriend, just so she ends up dumping him with his child she hid from him right before she dies.
 

yankeetravels

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TheOnceAndFutureKing said:
TV: Alan Harper from Two And A Half Men. The dude gets divorce raped twice, befriends the man fucking his ex wife, his own son doesn't respect him, acts autistic around pretty women, and acts submissive to his bitchy mom.

I don't agree about Alan being beta. He only looks beta next to Charlie and their mom because the mother is a full-on shark and Charlie is a pretty alpha dude. I'd argue he's just a sleazy hustler more than anything and gets called out on it. Is it beta to get his life's finances covered by his brother?

On top of that, I'd argue he hustled hard to stay in the beach house once Ashton Kutcher's character moved in. He had a rich guy that barely knew him cover all his lifestyle expenses just because he was lonely. I'd argue if anything, Kutcher's character was the beta on that show, not Alan.
 

questor70

 
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MajorStyles said:
Harper Valley PTA. A single mother, Barbara Eden, ridicules the small-town residents of Harper Valley on a weekly basis.

You can always find things to complain about, but Barbara Eden running around in short-shorts is not exactly a crime against humanity.

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(Now, Major Nelson was a major beta, because it seemed every episode had Jeannie innocently jumping in his lap and he just behaved like an uncomfortable virgin, even though by the end of the series they married the two off.)

As far as the Brady Bunch goes, any social-engineering that was trying to do failed. Modern society is about as far away from The Brady Bunch as it is Leave it to Beaver.
 
yankeetravels said:
TheOnceAndFutureKing said:
TV: Alan Harper from Two And A Half Men. The dude gets divorce raped twice, befriends the man fucking his ex wife, his own son doesn't respect him, acts autistic around pretty women, and acts submissive to his bitchy mom.

I don't agree about Alan being beta. He only looks beta next to Charlie and their mom because the mother is a full-on shark and Charlie is a pretty alpha dude. I'd argue he's just a sleazy hustler more than anything and gets called out on it. Is it beta to get his life's finances covered by his brother?

On top of that, I'd argue he hustled hard to stay in the beach house once Ashton Kutcher's character moved in. He had a rich guy that barely knew him cover all his lifestyle expenses just because he was lonely. I'd argue if anything, Kutcher's character was the beta on that show, not Alan.

Lol there was that one season where he was with that bimbo, and he literally worked an extra job to pay all her expenses just so she ended up divorce raping and cucking him. Also a man who is codependent on others to take care of him is beta.
 

Mercenary

Hummingbird
Off The Reservation said:
^funny how looking back at american programs of the 70s it seems like the beginning of social engineering. brady bunch etc.


It started much earlier than that...

Getting women to smoke and vote in elections in the 1910s/1920s was the true beginning...
 

Easy_C

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There's also the obvious Ted Mosby, although the first season or so used his "beta" characteristics as a punching bag for many of the show's jokes. That got lost over time as the show got watered down and dragged on.
 
Probably an obvious and over stated one, but Raj from TBBT.

The dude literally goes mute when hes in the same room with a woman. I remember a beta friend of mine in high school who would say he had the same "condition" as Raj in order to make an excuse for his awkwardness.
 
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