Beta of the century

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IvanDrago

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Cunnilinguist said:
turkishcandy said:
The point is, women are hypergamous and no relationship is too sacred or too beautiful to break apart. Grab what you can and leave nothing behind.

Nope, sorry. Call me a "beta" or whatnot but I would never go as far as breaking up a relationship simply for some pussy. I understand your position however after taking your background into account and realizing that is more or less normal in that part of the world.


I agree with both of you. Yes, women are hypergamous. They have no honor or morality and will throw a relationship in the shitter on a whim. Even knowing this, I have never banged a married or engaged woman. My decision is made not out of morality but the fact that I don't want to deal with the associated headaches that could occur from it. Unmarried pussy is cheap and easy. There is no need to risk my well being over something that is so plentiful.
 

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IvanDrago said:
Cunnilinguist said:
turkishcandy said:
The point is, women are hypergamous and no relationship is too sacred or too beautiful to break apart. Grab what you can and leave nothing behind.

Nope, sorry. Call me a "beta" or whatnot but I would never go as far as breaking up a relationship simply for some pussy. I understand your position however after taking your background into account and realizing that is more or less normal in that part of the world.


I agree with both of you. Yes, women are hypergamous. They have no honor or morality and will throw a relationship in the shitter on a whim. Even knowing this, I have never banged a married or engaged woman. My decision is made not out of morality but the fact that I don't want to deal with the associated headaches that could occur from it. Unmarried pussy is cheap and easy. There is no need to risk my well being over something that is so plentiful.

Yes, but I've met women with an n of 0 who I know would stay committed to a relationship even in the worst of times. My mother for one is and has. As will my sisters.
 

IvanDrago

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Suits said:
Yes, but I've met women with an n of 0 who I know would stay committed to a relationship even in the worst of times. My mother for one is and has. As will my sisters.

How attractive are they? And if attractive and in an age range where they have options, do you have examples of hard times they stuck through? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be a smart ass.
 

CactusCat589

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It does happen. Women raised in a good culture, sheltered and who associate with similar friends, very familial, they can even be attractive.

But the father or husband is the biggest factor. Always. Because the father and husband IS the culture. I can't remember one time my dad ever truly lost it. He rarely even raises his voice. But just imagining what it might be like is honestly scary. It's also not a spousal dynamic thing, it's man-to-man. Seeing that hint of the uncivilized and primal, the implied capacity for violence beneath the typical veneer of the upper-middle-class easygoing American man in his forties/fifties.

Sometimes my mom screwed up scheduling with me or my brother as a kid, or household spending and his face just goes blank, but you can feel the gears turning in his head, the calculation. In her head, she's realizing that you're evaluating her in a cold objective way like a balance sheet. Have you seen a wailing baby suddenly fall silent when coyotes howl?

It's the dread game. The old-school, patriarchal men have this. We have to have this. A woman can't be too close to other men or fuck up because you'll... what?You'll walk out on her? Or you'll punish her in some other way? So she doesn't ever want to find out so she doesn't even test you.

She doesn't want to be the cat killed by curiosity. Give even a reason to be a suspicious is guilt in and of itself.

They just have that vague, uneasy feeling about how you'll react. The only thing that can compete against such primal forces as a woman's passion and spontaneity that can lead to cheating isn't cerebral notions of loyalty and honor, but other primal emotions. Like dread. What tapping into it does is that it affects other people's perception of you.

Have people ever gotten really nervous saying they fucked up their part of a project? People who've only been around you in fair weather and at most only been around you a few seconds when you're in Serious Sam mode? Now there's irrationality in her head that you can see everything she does, that you notice even the most subtle signs in her behavior.

Even things like having a "knowing" look on your face when talking to her. She can't only know the charismatic, popular, disciplined, driven, stylish, witty, talkative, social butterfly side of yourself. Being able to suddenly and deliberately shift gears and poison the easygoing, happy, fun vibe into something alien and primal when you need to and remind her that you are a male of the homo sapiens race. A little change in energy in the way your eyes are set and she realizes how small she is. You've got like 6 inches and 50+ pounds on her. Teasing, gone. Understanding and sympathy, gone.

That's what domesticated women.
 

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IvanDrago said:
Suits said:
Yes, but I've met women with an n of 0 who I know would stay committed to a relationship even in the worst of times. My mother for one is and has. As will my sisters.

How attractive are they? And if attractive and in an age range where they have options, do you have examples of hard times they stuck through? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be a smart ass.

This is a relevant question. They are all 5-6.5s.

If they were 8's, you can guarantee that they would have so many opportunities to date "misunderstood Brad McRockbanddrummer" badboys in high school, that there would have been little that my parents could have done in this modern era to restrain their hypergamy.

There genuine lack of attractiveness meant that the losers who would have used them and thrown them away were to low in quality to actually get them interested.

If the "most popular boy" in the school had come calling, I think things might have turned out differently.

That being said, my youngest sister (a 5 when she isn't packing on the pounds, which is something that fluctuates for her) did experiment with a badboy and got used and abused, but fortunately she went in a better direction immediately after and is now married to a very good guy that she's lucky to be with.

My family, male and female, tends to marry young. This has been going on for several generations. 19-23 is the normal range.

I'm the one exception. My family is, with limited exception, very intelligent, but not necessarily highly attractive and the men have generally gone for 5-6's who were overlooked by other men, but at least were capable of intellectual conversation.

I haven't married, because I haven't been able to meet a 7-8 who is capable of intellectual discussion.

If I'm going to dedicate myself to someone for life, she better start off as at least a 7-8, because it's all down hill from there.
 
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