Big picture playbook and analysis

Max Roscoe

Woodpecker
I think one possible solution out of this mess is for whites to ally with Native Americans. I heard an interview with a Sioux leader today, and he talked about how the Sioux Nation is opposing the US Independence Day celebrations around Mt Rushmore for fire safety reasons, as well as taking the opportunity to remind the public that they were given those lands in a treaty, which is not being observed to this day.

Most of the options for whites to salvage part of this nation are gone: Any sort of segregation or separation from the USA will not be allowed. Any secession would be met with violence. Partnering with blacks is an idea that has been discussed for years with very tepid response. First, there is little evidence it has succeeded anywhere else on the planet. And second its just not an environment ripe for that to even be a viable option. Turning over the reigns of power to minorities and hoping that Muh Constitution will protect the rights of whites is an absurd idea, particularly when whites haven't even followed the constitution they wrote themselves.

But allying with Native Americans could be incredibly interesting. I recently watched a Netflix episode of Dirty Money about an abusive payday lending operator. Payday loans are already insanely profitable and predatory, often charging interest rates of 300% or more. But this guy took it a step further by partnering with a Native American tribe, as he didn't even want to follow the rules that limited him to that level of profit. (He actually exaggerated the degree to which his company was tribally affiliated, and defrauded thousands of people, and he is currently in prison for multiple felonies, rightly so.)

But the interesting part was that the tribe was completely untouchable by US government authorities, and they did not have to follow the regulations that all other payday loan companies did, because the regulations are essentially unenforceable on tribes who are sovereign over their own lands.

Which got me thinking. Native Americans may have some animosity towards whites, and I fully understand why. But they are not natural enemies, and in fact they many times tried to work with whites, which is the whole reason we celebrate Thanksgiving. They are in a pretty unhappy position now, living in ghettos with alcoholism and depression. But they could be a great people again. And they could help whites escape from the Bolshevism and anti-white mobs that are taking over the institutions of America.

They are a brave and honorable people, who believe in shared prosperity and conservation, not the selfish welfare system of entitlement. They were idolized by various movements including the Third Reich for precisely these sentiments.

Whites could relocate to tribal areas, and in return would ensure that treaties were finally followed, which were promised to natives decades ago. Whites could provide infrastructure and institutions in these tribal lands, and could work to improve the quality of life and give these natives a purpose beyond running a slot machine. Whites would have a safe land that is free from globohomo American rule but still located nearby. We can send all the statues and monuments to dead white people to these areas, and the remaining "Americans" can tear it all down and rename parks and streets after rappers and drug dealers.

That this chief was willing to partner with a scammy payday lender in return for money shows that they are willing to cooperate with whites if it benefits them. We can give them a whole lot more than money. They are a people who truly do have a reason to complain. They are people whose lives do not matter today. And they can be lifted up and made great again.

And whites can live in their sovereign land, either segregated or not, though I think both would benefit from friendly segregation.
 
I think one possible solution out of this mess is for whites to ally with...
I had a thought.

Picture this chain of self-identification (and pardon me if it's not perfect; it just came to my mind):

"I am a child of God" >> "I am me (insert your name here), child of {Father's Name} and {Mother's Name}" >> "I am a {City you live in}-ite" >> "I am a {State you live in}-ite" >> "I am an American"

Now, since this isn't Game Of Thrones, you aren't going to announce your full title, and neither will anyone else. So let's just skip to the highest level for a moment. You are an American.

The point is, "whites" are comprised of people on this forum, but also of leftist demons. "Whites" allying themselves with anyone is not the solution. Many "whites" are part of the problem.

Americans should ally themselves with other Americans.

If you live next to a dude who has African ancestors, or a dude who has Native ancestors, or a Jew, or whatever...

The first question to ask is "do they consider themselves an American? Do they care about America?".

Then you are already allies.

And I'm not saying this as a be-all end-all pro-Nationalist thing. That's why I wrote that chain at the top.

Because in the coming years, Arizonans are going to need to watch out for each other more than their brothers and sisters elsewhere in America. And folks who live in Phoenix will need to band together and not worry as much about the rest of the State. And so on and so forth, right down to a family level, and then finally, ultimately, to a belief level.

That means you don't have to worry about "converting" or "outreaching" to any Blacks or Natives or whatever. Either they identify as American (in the sense of patriotism and belonging), wanting what is really best for America (not the fake "I want to free America of patriarchy and racism" that the psycho left claims, because the cat is out of the bag and they clearly hate America and indeed all of the Western world)... or they don't.

You divide along those lines, it doesn't matter if it's 1% black, or "so many hispanics vote Democrat", or any of that other nonsense.

Your allies are your countrymen and your city-state dwellers and your community and your family and your religion who actually want to live and let live and who do not wish you harm, and they are already out there and they are being deeply oh so deeply jostled by forces of demoralization that an appeal to the opposite would allow their emotions to swing hard into a sense of purpose.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Lots of raging leftists identify as Americans and are quite proud that they are changing America to be "better". They might not be on board with hardcore marxists like BLM but when push comes to shove they will throw you under the bus for your views on feminism, LGBT degeneracy or even just for being a Christian.

This is the whole problem, isn't it? "American" is now such an irrelevant concept that the country cannot unite around anything that it supposedly represents. You have 150 million "Americans" who unironically fly the flag while hoping for assault weapon bans and restrictions on what the other 150 million Americans can say out loud or even type on social media.
 

Loki131

Pigeon
Lots of raging leftists identify as Americans and are quite proud that they are changing America to be "better". They might not be on board with hardcore marxists like BLM but when push comes to shove they will throw you under the bus for your views on feminism, LGBT degeneracy or even just for being a Christian.

This is the whole problem, isn't it? "American" is now such an irrelevant concept that the country cannot unite around anything that it supposedly represents. You have 150 million "Americans" who unironically fly the flag while hoping for assault weapon bans and restrictions on what the other 150 million Americans can say out loud or even type on social media.
We don’t have a culture or history anymore. Hence why it’s American to riot, but unamerican to Secede from the union. If we can split the country, the west and east coast (major liberal hot beds) get invaded but the Midwest stays secure. Commies and satanists already are in power, and they are now showing their control. So what’s the solution? I think only God can provide that in these times.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member


Bob Port @BobPort
So, this is extremely personal to me. My wife as a young girl in Guang Xi autonomous region (about 300 miles north of Vietnam) lived with her parents in constant fear of Mao’s cultural revolution. The edict was to move to the country to produce food. Instead, my wife’s father ...

Bob Port @BobPort
... became boss of a schoolchild text book factory in the mountains north of Nanning. His secretary became his wife. The textbooks were focused on teaching Mandarin and overcoming dialects, a worthy cause. So many of my wife’s childhood friends died because their families ....

Bob Port @BobPort
... refused to move to farms to produce food. My wife, as a young woman, learned to harvest food from the jungle. That’s how she and her family ate. They survived.
 

Sosa

Woodpecker
Great breakdown of the new normal that is to come as a result of the shutdowns.

Flattening to curve will eventually turn into total government control of the people while dissenters will be shamed, prosecuted, and exiled.

 

Dusty

Peacock
Gold Member
Interesting article.


In my view it is clear that the political left has gone so far off the rails into its own cultism that there is no coming back. There can be no reconciliation between the two sides, so we must separate, or we must fight. I advocate for separation first for a number of reasons:

First and foremost, conservatives are the primary producers within American culture. If we leave the leftists to their own devices there is a chance they will simply implode in on themselves and eat each other because they have no idea how to fill the production void. The recent developments in the defunct CHAZ/CHOP autonomous zone are a perfect example. Those people don't have the slightest clue what they are doing and it shows.

Second, if conservatives separate it provides a buffer that helps defuse future random conflicts. When you force the two sides into a box together eventually they will find a reason to try to kill each other. Putting some distance between them and us reduces the angst.

Third, if the leftists decide they don't like that we have separated and are thriving on our own, and they attempt to antagonize or attack us where we live, then we hold the clear moral high ground when we smash them to pieces in response.

I fully realize that the third outcome is the most likely. War is probably inevitable. Why? Because collectivists and narcissists are never satisfied. They desire unlimited control over the lives of others and they will use any means to get that control no matter how destructive. Separating from them is only a stop-gap that allows us to take the superior position. Through peaceful migration, we set the pace of the conflict. Eventually they will come after us, and there will be no doubt about our response then. There will be no way to spin the result in their favor, no way for them to play the victims.

Some people might question if we are actually to the point of open conflict; they might accuse me of “doom mongering”. Others may argue that conservatives are acting “passive” and that we will never take any action. These assumptions are common right now because such people do not understand how history progresses and how group psychology evolves.

Domestic war is not something pursued lightly, or haphazardly. The average person knows at least subconsciously that it's better to seek resolution or to remain patient as events unfold. Conservatives aren't stupid; we know that before any civil war there is first a culture war. And, we know that the cards are stacked against us and that if we act rashly in any way we will lose position in that culture war.

So, we let the leftists spit and rage like madmen for a little while. Each day people who were on the fence when it comes to the culture war are witnessing this and come over to our side because we're the only side that is sane. The drawback is, there comes a point in which calm professionalism might be wrongly perceived as weakness. And when people sense weakness among conservatives, they might run into the arms of the extreme left thinking that it's safer to join the “winning team”.

I believe conservatives have not been sucked into a reactionary stance yet because they are thinking logically and refusing to play the game for now. In some ways it is how we enter the fight that is more important than the fight itself. To understand why, we have to look at the bigger picture beyond the left/right conflict.

As I noted last week, the political left is a tool for a greater agenda. They are being used as a weapon of chaos by globalist interests. This is not “conspiracy theory”, this is conspiracy fact. Millions of dollars have poured into Antifa and BLM related groups through elitist donors like George Soros and his Open Society Foundation as well as the Ford Foundation. Globalist institutions like these have been influencing the extreme left and promoting identity politics for DECADES. This is openly admitted. What we are witnessing in 2020 is simply the culmination of a half-century long propaganda campaign that created the modern feminist movement, victim group status, entitlement culture, etc.

The reason for the agenda should be obvious: Chaos creates fear. Fear creates division and crisis. And, crisis creates opportunity (as globalist Rahm Emanuel once bragged). Meaning, the extreme left is going to start a war because that's exactly what the global elites created them for.

Now, some might suggest that this places conservatives in a Catch-22 position; if we don't fight back then we will look weak. We will be culturally isolated and eventually overrun and wiped from the history books. If we do fight back we will be giving the globalists what they want – A civil war that will tear America apart.

The suggestion by certain special interests will be that there is only one way out; use government power to turn the tide to our advantage. In other words, institute martial law. I don't really see it that way.

Once we understand that a fight is coming regardless, our task is to position ourselves with the most advantage possible while keeping our culture and our principles intact. This includes our belief in constitutionalism, civil liberties and opposition to tyranny in ANY form. Winning the fight is important, but maintaining our principles in the process is more important. Becoming a monster to fight the monster is the same as losing.

When the left comes for us (and they will), the fight has to be won by us, not government. We cannot hand even more power to government in the name of security. We cannot become the fascists the leftists accuse us of being.

I am often asked these days about my view of the 2020 election and how it will turn out. I did predict Trump's election win in the summer of 2016 based on the idea that Trump's presence in the White House would drive the left insane, as well as give the globalists a perfect “conservative” scapegoat for the economic collapse they had been engineering since at least 2008.

Look at it this way: If Trump “wins”, or delays the election, the left will riot and a civil war will be triggered. Conservatives will have to deal with the violence of the left while also dealing with the potential for martial law (which we cannot tolerate or support either). If Biden “wins”, it will be perceived by many conservatives who still think elections matter as a stolen presidency engineered through fraudulent ballot practices.

To summarize, if Trump is still in the White House in 2021, get ready to fight back against leftist mobs as well as martial law measures. If you believe in freedom, realize that fake conservatives that support government tyranny will be as much a problem as Marxist lefties. If Biden enters the White House, expect him to immediately implement unconstitutional policies including medical tyranny, gun confiscation and martial law. Either way, it ends in war.

It's also the classic false choice narrative: You can choose Marxism and communism, or you can choose fascism. Communism being the elevation of the weak and the oppression of the strong in the name of arbitrary "equality", and fascism being the elimination of the weak or less fortunate in the name of making more room for the strong. Both sides rely on totalitarian government to assert dominance, and both sides benefit the elitist establishment. The great con is that there is no third option, when there is; the non-aggression principle, citizen defense, voluntarism and freedom.

Frankly, I almost prefer a scenario in which Biden and the left are perceived as stealing the election. At least then conservatives will be fully united once again and ready to fight, instead of passively relying on a Pied Piper like Trump to save them.

The truth is, in 2020-2021 we stand at a massive nexus point in human history. We are spiraling into a decade and a fight that will decide the fate liberty for the next century or more. On one side stands the global elites and the useful idiots on the hard left. They will push for a collectivist system that erases all memory of the Constitutional Republic we once new, and they will get help from fake conservatives that value power over principle. On the other side stands the people that just want to be left alone; the free minds, the people that don't need or desire to have power over anybody.

If humanity is to have a future at all, the second group must continue to exist and prosper. They are the wellspring that feeds us, that gives us something to hope for. If the elites and the social justice mob take control, there can be no future for our species. They desire what they cannot and should not have. They value only what they can take from others. They have a hunger that can never be satiated. They will devour the world until there is nothing left while claiming they stand for the “greater good”. War cannot be avoided with such people; the only question is, will liberty minded people stay the course and stick by their principles or will they fall to their darker impulses to ensure victory?
 
 
In my view it is clear that the political left has gone so far off the rails into its own cultism that there is no coming back. There can be no reconciliation between the two sides, so we must separate, or we must fight. I advocate for separation first for a number of reasons:

First and foremost, conservatives are the primary producers within American culture. If we leave the leftists to their own devices there is a chance they will simply implode in on themselves and eat each other because they have no idea how to fill the production void. The recent developments in the defunct CHAZ/CHOP autonomous zone are a perfect example. Those people don't have the slightest clue what they are doing and it shows.

Second, if conservatives separate it provides a buffer that helps defuse future random conflicts. When you force the two sides into a box together eventually they will find a reason to try to kill each other. Putting some distance between them and us reduces the angst.

Third, if the leftists decide they don't like that we have separated and are thriving on our own, and they attempt to antagonize or attack us where we live, then we hold the clear moral high ground when we smash them to pieces in response.

I fully realize that the third outcome is the most likely. War is probably inevitable. Why? Because collectivists and narcissists are never satisfied. They desire unlimited control over the lives of others and they will use any means to get that control no matter how destructive. Separating from them is only a stop-gap that allows us to take the superior position. Through peaceful migration, we set the pace of the conflict. Eventually they will come after us, and there will be no doubt about our response then. There will be no way to spin the result in their favor, no way for them to play the victims.

Some people might question if we are actually to the point of open conflict; they might accuse me of “doom mongering”. Others may argue that conservatives are acting “passive” and that we will never take any action. These assumptions are common right now because such people do not understand how history progresses and how group psychology evolves.

Domestic war is not something pursued lightly, or haphazardly. The average person knows at least subconsciously that it's better to seek resolution or to remain patient as events unfold. Conservatives aren't stupid; we know that before any civil war there is first a culture war. And, we know that the cards are stacked against us and that if we act rashly in any way we will lose position in that culture war.

So, we let the leftists spit and rage like madmen for a little while. Each day people who were on the fence when it comes to the culture war are witnessing this and come over to our side because we're the only side that is sane. The drawback is, there comes a point in which calm professionalism might be wrongly perceived as weakness. And when people sense weakness among conservatives, they might run into the arms of the extreme left thinking that it's safer to join the “winning team”.

I believe conservatives have not been sucked into a reactionary stance yet because they are thinking logically and refusing to play the game for now. In some ways it is how we enter the fight that is more important than the fight itself. To understand why, we have to look at the bigger picture beyond the left/right conflict.

As I noted last week, the political left is a tool for a greater agenda. They are being used as a weapon of chaos by globalist interests. This is not “conspiracy theory”, this is conspiracy fact. Millions of dollars have poured into Antifa and BLM related groups through elitist donors like George Soros and his Open Society Foundation as well as the Ford Foundation. Globalist institutions like these have been influencing the extreme left and promoting identity politics for DECADES. This is openly admitted. What we are witnessing in 2020 is simply the culmination of a half-century long propaganda campaign that created the modern feminist movement, victim group status, entitlement culture, etc.

The reason for the agenda should be obvious: Chaos creates fear. Fear creates division and crisis. And, crisis creates opportunity (as globalist Rahm Emanuel once bragged). Meaning, the extreme left is going to start a war because that's exactly what the global elites created them for.

Now, some might suggest that this places conservatives in a Catch-22 position; if we don't fight back then we will look weak. We will be culturally isolated and eventually overrun and wiped from the history books. If we do fight back we will be giving the globalists what they want – A civil war that will tear America apart.

The suggestion by certain special interests will be that there is only one way out; use government power to turn the tide to our advantage. In other words, institute martial law. I don't really see it that way.

Once we understand that a fight is coming regardless, our task is to position ourselves with the most advantage possible while keeping our culture and our principles intact. This includes our belief in constitutionalism, civil liberties and opposition to tyranny in ANY form. Winning the fight is important, but maintaining our principles in the process is more important. Becoming a monster to fight the monster is the same as losing.

When the left comes for us (and they will), the fight has to be won by us, not government. We cannot hand even more power to government in the name of security. We cannot become the fascists the leftists accuse us of being.

I am often asked these days about my view of the 2020 election and how it will turn out. I did predict Trump's election win in the summer of 2016 based on the idea that Trump's presence in the White House would drive the left insane, as well as give the globalists a perfect “conservative” scapegoat for the economic collapse they had been engineering since at least 2008.

Look at it this way: If Trump “wins”, or delays the election, the left will riot and a civil war will be triggered. Conservatives will have to deal with the violence of the left while also dealing with the potential for martial law (which we cannot tolerate or support either). If Biden “wins”, it will be perceived by many conservatives who still think elections matter as a stolen presidency engineered through fraudulent ballot practices.

To summarize, if Trump is still in the White House in 2021, get ready to fight back against leftist mobs as well as martial law measures. If you believe in freedom, realize that fake conservatives that support government tyranny will be as much a problem as Marxist lefties. If Biden enters the White House, expect him to immediately implement unconstitutional policies including medical tyranny, gun confiscation and martial law. Either way, it ends in war.

It's also the classic false choice narrative: You can choose Marxism and communism, or you can choose fascism. Communism being the elevation of the weak and the oppression of the strong in the name of arbitrary "equality", and fascism being the elimination of the weak or less fortunate in the name of making more room for the strong. Both sides rely on totalitarian government to assert dominance, and both sides benefit the elitist establishment. The great con is that there is no third option, when there is; the non-aggression principle, citizen defense, voluntarism and freedom.

Frankly, I almost prefer a scenario in which Biden and the left are perceived as stealing the election. At least then conservatives will be fully united once again and ready to fight, instead of passively relying on a Pied Piper like Trump to save them.

The truth is, in 2020-2021 we stand at a massive nexus point in human history. We are spiraling into a decade and a fight that will decide the fate liberty for the next century or more. On one side stands the global elites and the useful idiots on the hard left. They will push for a collectivist system that erases all memory of the Constitutional Republic we once new, and they will get help from fake conservatives that value power over principle. On the other side stands the people that just want to be left alone; the free minds, the people that don't need or desire to have power over anybody.

If humanity is to have a future at all, the second group must continue to exist and prosper. They are the wellspring that feeds us, that gives us something to hope for. If the elites and the social justice mob take control, there can be no future for our species. They desire what they cannot and should not have. They value only what they can take from others. They have a hunger that can never be satiated. They will devour the world until there is nothing left while claiming they stand for the “greater good”. War cannot be avoided with such people; the only question is, will liberty minded people stay the course and stick by their principles or will they fall to their darker impulses to ensure victory?
Absolutely fantastic post!
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
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It's also the classic false choice narrative: You can choose Marxism and communism, or you can choose fascism. Communism being the elevation of the weak and the oppression of the strong in the name of arbitrary "equality", and fascism being the elimination of the weak or less fortunate in the name of making more room for the strong. Both sides rely on totalitarian government to assert dominance, and both sides benefit the elitist establishment. The great con is that there is no third option, when there is; the non-aggression principle, citizen defense, voluntarism and freedom.
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Great article but my opinion is that it fumbles at the end. Fascism is not "the elimination of the weak or less fortunate in the name of making more room for the strong". You could make a better argument for that being a mechanism of capitalism. As for the great con being that there is no third option, for the last 70 years in the US at least, that con has been that there are no options other than the god of communism or the god of freedom.

I have no idea what movement the author is referencing when he infers that the counter-point to communism for half a century has been fascism.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
Great article but my opinion is that it fumbles at the end. Fascism is not "the elimination of the weak or less fortunate in the name of making more room for the strong". You could make a better argument for that being a mechanism of capitalism. As for the great con being that there is no third option, for the last 70 years in the US at least, that con has been that there are no options other than the god of communism or the god of freedom.

I have no idea what movement the author is referencing when he infers that the counter-point to communism for half a century has been fascism.
I wish I could get more guys to listen to the Alt-Right podcasts. What we face in this country is history repeating itself. What we face happened all across Europe 100 years ago. The Bolshevik/Marxists moved in, stirred up the losers within each country to riot, tear down statues and then start attacking churches. When that wasn't enough they started to kill priests and their clergy. When that wasn't enough they started full on civil wars. The death claims in Spain is between 35,000 and 75,000 alone.

Don't take my word for it, go read up on history of Europe between WW1 and WW2. It is available on the internet for free, or listen to podcasts about it. Eventually the good guys won these civil wars, but could only with by third position, or fascism. In Italy is was Mussolini, in Spain it was Franco, in Germany it was Hitler. In Eastern Europe the attempts to fight back were crushed by the Soviets who were supported directly by the USA. Yes, the USA helped the Bolsheviks/Marxists the entire time until the end of the war and then let them have half of Europe where afterwards it was pure hell. Eventually Hungary was able to rise up against the Bolsheviks and run them out in 1956.

Third position is the only way out. Otherwise we are just individual atoms and it doesn't matter how strong or well prepared we are, if you are not organized as a group then you will be beaten. When you buy into the leftists frame, which frame has been discussed here nonstop when it comes to dealing with women, well it works in all facets of life, then you will lose. The left frames fascism as the "ultimate evil". Then you have the reactionaries (conservatives) buying into it and stupidly labeling the communists on the left as "fascists". Trump even did this at his disaster speech in front of Mount Rushmore. Any time you do this, you lose. Fascism is a word with a definition and that definition is NOT communism and that definition is not what the left tries to make it out to be.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
People think the Left will engage in some kind of Death Star destroys Alderaan moment that causes the dam of Right wing patience to finally break. They are delusional.

They will understand what they are dealing with when they receive two letters from the federal government. One being the bill for 10% of their total net worth as reparations to black people. The other notifying them that a lien has been put on their assets for payments relating to the first letter. No jackboot thugs marching down the street. Just good old fashioned bureaucracy.

Ten percent will not be enough to get them to revolt. And neither will the ten percent the year after that, and so on.
 
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It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
People think the Left will engage in some kind of "Death Star destroys Alderaan" moment that causes the dam of Right wing patience to finally break. They are delusional.

They will understand what they are dealing with when they receive two letters from the federal government. One being the bill for 10% of their total net worth as reparations to black people. The other notifying them that a lien has been put on their assets for payments relating to the first letter. No jackboot thugs marching down the street. Just good old fashioned bureaucracy.

Ten percent will not be enough to get them to revolt. And neither will the ten percent the year after that, and so on.
Yep, the slow walk and the conservative reactionary mindset created by disastrous speeches like Trump saying "left wing fascism" will ensure the right will slowly surrender until they have nothing remaining to fight with.

Either the people on the right start to listen to the great thinkers of the past who defeated this monster or they try to do their own thing and lose. It is their choice.
 

Max Roscoe

Woodpecker
Domestic war is not something pursued lightly, or haphazardly. The average person knows at least subconsciously that it's better to seek resolution or to remain patient as events unfold. Conservatives aren't stupid; we know that before any civil war there is first a culture war. And, we know that the cards are stacked against us and that if we act rashly in any way we will lose position in that culture war.
The culture war was lost decades ago.
Really, what has conservatism conserved? What values do they even hold, other than "yes but not quite to the degree as my friend on the left" ?

The idea of domestic war is a fantasy. Really, the era of warfare ended in the Second World War, and one could tell, by the ferocity and intensity with which the latter days of those battles were fought, that they knew that was the case. A combination of things from nuclear weaponry to economic globalism has made traditional warfare all but outdated. Do you think the Chinese (or whatever group the media currently has you most fearful of) would bother to invade the USA, if they had the means and ability to do so successfully? What would be the reason? How would they benefit more than they do already?

If warfare was the answer, and I believe it rarely is anymore, then the time for the war has come and gone. Honestly, I wouldn't want modern conservatism ruling over my society any more than the modern Democratic Party. It might even be worse. At least there is a wing of the democrats who sometimes criticizes those who must not be named, and maybe there are one or two guys in Congress who would check the power of rapacious globalist corporations, who would have all manner of wealth and power released to them under "conservatives".

In the end this fundamental failure of the "right" is probably the reason there would never be a conflict: The supposed "good guys" that we would support are just so unlikable that they will not inspire many to follow them. There is so little real difference between our two parties, and I don't see anyone else coming to lead us in any way.

There has been a severe lack of heroes and leaders in America in my lifetime. I'm not holding my breath for a strong, just leader to offer us an alternative. And even if such a man had such a vision, I don't think trying to convince a small number of guys to join him in armed conflict is a reasonable answer he would come up with. Not to be trite but WWJD? If a real leader emerged, the most feasible solution would either be regrouping in a new territory, either within the former USA or abroad. That's the only real option I see, and it is quite a long shot.
 
Yep, the slow walk and the conservative reactionary mindset created by disastrous speeches like Trump saying "left wing fascism" will ensure the right will slowly surrender until they have nothing remaining to fight with.

Either the people on the right start to listen to the great thinkers of the past who defeated this monster or they try to do their own thing and lose. It is their choice.
They didn't "defeat" a damned thing. The Bolsheviks/Marxists are quite alive and well.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
They didn't "defeat" a damned thing. The Bolsheviks/Marxists are quite alive and well.
They defeated them within their country, which is the next bigger lesson. That isn't even enough. Because once they ran them out like scolded dogs, they came back with the USA/England combined military to fight for them.

The bigger lesson being that even if we beat them here, the fighting is far from over. And beating them here is a huge uphill battle.
 
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