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<blockquote data-quote="Basil Ransom" data-source="post: 247489" data-attributes="member: 49">False. Mainstream conservatives are not authentic conservatives, they're more like yesterday's liberals. I never tried to classify manosphere writers according to their politics, but Dalrock and Roissy seem like traditionalist conservatives more than anything else. Plenty of posters are confused more than anything else.What modern political philosophy endorses patriarchy? None except traditional conservatism. Many of the more mature manosphere writers enjoy the bounty of sex they're having now, but deep down they are not all that convinced that they are better off than a more traditional arrangement; even more so for the rest of society. Trouble is, that traditional arrangement is hard to come by nowadays. Even if a few men succeed at it, the small number of appropriate women ensure it's a niche strategy.Humans are disposed towards patriarchy, in most circumstances, so it's not something that needs to be forced on the people - a libertarian form of government, at least at the national level, could easily yield a patriarchal society, as it has in the past. Our current society is propping up feminism at every level - feminized schooling, Title IX, antidiscrimination laws, gynocentric marriage laws, misandric media, etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Basil Ransom, post: 247489, member: 49"] False. Mainstream conservatives are not authentic conservatives, they're more like yesterday's liberals. I never tried to classify manosphere writers according to their politics, but Dalrock and Roissy seem like traditionalist conservatives more than anything else. Plenty of posters are confused more than anything else. What modern political philosophy endorses patriarchy? None except traditional conservatism. Many of the more mature manosphere writers enjoy the bounty of sex they're having now, but deep down they are not all that convinced that they are better off than a more traditional arrangement; even more so for the rest of society. Trouble is, that traditional arrangement is hard to come by nowadays. Even if a few men succeed at it, the small number of appropriate women ensure it's a niche strategy. Humans are disposed towards patriarchy, in most circumstances, so it's not something that needs to be forced on the people - a libertarian form of government, at least at the national level, could easily yield a patriarchal society, as it has in the past. Our current society is propping up feminism at every level - feminized schooling, Title IX, antidiscrimination laws, gynocentric marriage laws, misandric media, etc. [/QUOTE]

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