Black market solutions to maintaining pre-COVID19 freedoms

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
For those who don't want to get vaccinated but still want to travel, you will have to break the law and use a black market solution. This has already started happening:
With global coronavirus cases rising, many countries are now requiring negative coronavirus test results for entry, but getting a test in time can be difficult for travelers.
So it may have been only a matter of time before a black-market option emerged: counterfeit test results. The practice of forging or purchasing fake results has surfaced in destinations around the world, with instances of manipulated negatives in Brazil, France and the United Kingdom.

Last week, French officials broke up an alleged forgery ring that was selling false test certificates at Paris’s Charles de Gaulle Airport. According to the Associated Press, the group was asking $180 to $360 (150 to 300 euros) for the digital certificates of a negative result.

Police charged the group of seven (six men and one woman) with forgery and fraud after investigating how an Ethiopia-bound passenger acquired a false coronavirus document at the airport in September. The fake certificates were stored on mobile phones and had the name of a medical lab located in Paris, the BBC reported.

Police in Brazil recently arrested four domestic travelers who forged negative coronavirus tests to visit the island of Fernando de Noronha on a private jet, according to the Associated Press. The island, which is known as one of the most beautiful beaches in the world, reopened to tourists on Oct. 10 and requires entrants to present negative coronavirus test results acquired no more than one day in advance.

According to a U.K. newspaper, the practice has also surfaced in England: The Lancashire Telegraph reported speaking with one man who doctored a friend’s negative coronavirus test, printed it out and used it for international travel. The newspaper also spoke to another traveler who was offered a fake document from their travel agent.

As test-result protocols for travel are becoming more high-tech, however, it’s unlikely that many travelers would be able to travel with a manipulated document. The state of Hawaii, for example, requires visitors to preregister in their online testing program, use an approved testing partner, and upload results to a digital portal. Paper copies are not accepted.

Via Washington Post: http://archive.vn/x1Ycy

This forum is not a place to discuss illegal activities, so all discussion in this thread should be hypothetically based.

The big issue coming up is how to "fake" a vaccination result that is attached to a digital ID. Unless you can bribe a doctor, that sounds difficult.
 
The big issue coming up is how to "fake" a vaccination result that is attached to a digital ID. Unless you can bribe a doctor, that sounds difficult.

I have friends in cybersecurity and if we were to hypothetically discuss this, we would have determined, based on existing systems and infrastructure, it may be easier than most think.

I'm sure some of you are in this field so you're aware. We would have identified weakest points and looked at how existing networks were discovered. We would look at how existing insurance accounts are verified, how lax everything is around doing so, and the interaction with possible third party medical data providers.

These conversations would take time though. It's hard to say how they'll unroll this. I saw a BBC article today, for example, about GPS, Bluetooth bracelets with QR codes already being tested across countries.

Just in case I may also have considered which doctors within a 100 miles radius I know who will resist this because they don't vaccinate their own children. However, also to be considered: how long they can resist. I would be hesitant to approach just anyone in the medical field though. I know enough medical service personnel of all types to know...there's a lot of covidians among them.
 

nathan

Robin
I would never break the law, but one of my friends easily forged a covid test result. He also forged an Emotional Support Animal license, among many other things. Based on this, I agree with EndlessGravity about the difficulty of partaking in such activities.

Despite being underwhelmed by the resistance, the USA still has significantly more people willing to stand up to globohomo and their decrees regarding covid, including like 1/3 of the governors, so I do expect that if we even get to the point where a lot of big businesses mandate various forms of proof, loopholes will not be hard to come by.
 

Pendleton

Pelican
The Wapo article relates to testing results, which I suspect are much more susceptible to fraud than whatever sort of ID they dream up for proof of vaccination. At least in Japan, the COVID test form is just a single sheet of paper you print out and have a doctor complete and sign. I expect the proof of vaccination to a more formal document - a sort of health passport with all the antifraud protections of a regular passport.

Increasingly, if you want to take part in any of societies' infrastructure - finance, travel, social media, employment - you need to check into a comprehensive monitoring system and be a confirmed good boy. I wouldn't be any more optimistic of being able to maintain freedom while participating in something as heavily regulated and monitored as international travel than I would of being able to maintain my freedom of speech on Twitter or Facebook. Maybe we need a general thread on "Living in a Totalitarian Society" to discuss maintaining some semblance of freedom in the event of Biden win and the completion of the transition of the US to a 1 party dictatorship.

The only complicating factor is that our rulers want mass immigration and I am not sure how you import millions of third worlders while also imposing strict requirements regarding proof of vaccination. I assume it would have to be in the form of some sort of de facto waiver of requirements for illegals.
 
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Gonrad

Sparrow
The big issue coming up is how to "fake" a vaccination result that is attached to a digital ID. Unless you can bribe a doctor, that sounds difficult.

The only hope is that they allow doctors to do the vaccination instead of doing them only in vaccination centres. Also when you do the vaccination at the doctor you can bring your own vaccine, so you could use a placebo vaccine. Hopefully there will be at least some countries that allow doctors to do the vaccination. Then it's just a number's game.

But if globalists manage to make vaccination centres mandatory everywhere, riots will be the only way.
 
The only hope is that they allow doctors to do the vaccination instead of doing them only in vaccination centres. Also when you do the vaccination at the doctor you can bring your own vaccine, so you could use a placebo vaccine. Hopefully there will be at least some countries that allow doctors to do the vaccination. Then it's just a number's game.

But if globalists manage to make vaccination centres mandatory everywhere, riots will be the only way.

That's a good point. Interesting that it requires sub-zero temperatures. Is that equipment common in doctors offices? I doubt it. Centres may be baked into the plan.
 

DanielH

Pelican
Orthodox
Why not just fake the documents to show you already had it? Then a vaccine would be redundant, right?
Last I heard Boris Johnson is quarantining after an exposure even though he already had it. I expect them to say we can get it again after a year or so, like the flu. Keep in mind we haven't even been through a year of this. I imagine by the spring they will announce vaccine efficacy is lowered over time so you will need boosters with the latest vaccine, and a prior infection will only clear you for so long.
 

bucky

Ostrich
Last I heard Boris Johnson is quarantining after an exposure even though he already had it. I expect them to say we can get it again after a year or so, like the flu. Keep in mind we haven't even been through a year of this. I imagine by the spring they will announce vaccine efficacy is lowered over time so you will need boosters with the latest vaccine, and a prior infection will only clear you for so long.
I hope you're wrong, but I doubt it. I don't know what has astounded me the most about all of this: that normies really believe we're in the middle of some kind of modern-day Black Death, or that they think things will "go back to normal" sometime soon. Income tax was originally supposed to be temporary, as was the PATRIOT Act. I can't think of any examples of government voluntarily giving back freedoms they've proscribed once it's been proven people accept those freedoms having been taken away.
 

Hypno

Crow
"illegally lifting" what has this world come to lol.

There's been discussion that the corona vaccine will be stored at negative 90 degrees or something so only military checkpoints will be able to issue it - I guess the "just bribe a doc" solution was so obvious that even these retards that call themselves "Elites" thought of it.

Harrison Bergeron (short story by Kurt Vonnegut)
 

bucky

Ostrich
Once this becomes mainstream there will be no shortage of people selling fake certificates. Back when I was a teenager you could get a fake ID that was legit enough to scan at the liquor store. The certificate will be no problem.
They'll eventually add chips and magnetic strips and other measures to make them harder to fake. Not impossible, of course, but much more difficult. I know a guy who somehow managed to make a fake CAC (common access card for access to US military networks). Of course, he's in prison now.
 

barrythecyborg

Kingfisher
I would never break the law, but one of my friends easily forged a covid test result. He also forged an Emotional Support Animal license, among many other things. Based on this, I agree with EndlessGravity about the difficulty of partaking in such activities.

Despite being underwhelmed by the resistance, the USA still has significantly more people willing to stand up to globohomo and their decrees regarding covid, including like 1/3 of the governors, so I do expect that if we even get to the point where a lot of big businesses mandate various forms of proof, loopholes will not be hard to come by.

I'd have zero concerns about breaking any of these 'laws'.

I'd maybe stab the doctor in the eye with the needle before anyone injects me with that sheeeet.
 
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