Black market solutions to maintaining pre-COVID19 freedoms

kel

Ostrich
In my state, all vaccinations are put into a state database. You can even generate proof of Covid vaccination from their website. My guess is this is the precusor to having some other systems read directly from that database. Employers will check directly online instead of asking for a vaccination card. Airlines will be able to check directly on that system.

It's easy to fake the card but a lot more difficult (but not impossible) to fake the database.

This is why my plan is to lie and establish myself as vaxxed as quickly as possible, so there's a paper trail elsewhere of my vaxxed status, in the hope that as one central database is gradually brought online I can use these secondary sources which bought my fake card as proof to get myself in the database(s) as vaxxed.
 

Aizen

Kingfisher
Where would you relocate to? I have considered this as I work online but I don’t want to be stuck in a position where I can’t return home without a vaccine. Also nearly all countries seem to be pushing the vaccine. I think I’ll just stay put. If it means becoming a second class citizen, so be it.
This is simply not true. People located in the West with a limited viewpoint tend to think the world is following in their downward spiral. Some countries are, but most are not.
 

Louis IX

Pelican
This is simply not true. People located in the West with a limited viewpoint tend to think the world is following in their downward spiral. Some countries are, but most are not.
Most countries in the planet depend from foreign aid from the "west" or some other big powers. These big powers depend from their ((Financial Masters))
The poorest and least organised countries might have 2/3 years more of semi-freedom than the the rich countries
 
This is why my plan is to lie and establish myself as vaxxed as quickly as possible, so there's a paper trail elsewhere of my vaxxed status, in the hope that as one central database is gradually brought online I can use these secondary sources which bought my fake card as proof to get myself in the database(s) as vaxxed.
With all due respect, I don't see your plan working. First of all, there are likely to be multiple vaccinations. So maybe you are able to pull it off for the first couple until they inevitably close the loopholes in their systems.

More importantly, there is probably a technological component to these shots that provide for the tracking of the individuals that receive them. 'Hydrogel' is the component of the vaccine that you should look into. It is the nanotech in the hydrogel that will allow for the connection to the 5g system.
 
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With all due respect, I don't see your plan working. First of all, there are likely to be multiple vaccinations. So maybe you are able to pull it off for the first couple until they inevitably close the loopholes in their systems.

More importantly, there is probably a technological component to these shots that provide for the tracking of the individuals that receive them. 'Hydrogel' is the component of the vaccine that you should look into. It is the nanotech in the hydrogel will allow for the connection to the 5g system.
Exactly, they are already doing new rounds of Lockdowns in Europe, India and elsewhere, and they brought Dr. Fauci out again saying about his concerns and how a third injection will likely be necessary. He and other so-called "experts" have also been asked if it might be something where people might have to get another shot every 3-6 months either because of new strains or antibodies, and right now they are playing dumb because they need to "boil the frog" a bit more until more people actually are willing to go along with it by the time they get to that bridge to cross.
 

MajorStyles

Pelican
An important point is that the (((cabal))) is rarely able to stick the landing. They start a nefarious plan, create massive destruction, but then they become distracted. Usually, it's because sheckels have appeared in a distant location and, driven by pure greed, they are unable to let them be claimed by another. Something healthy emerges outside of their sordid castle and, unable to contain themselves, they drop what they're doing and rush headlong to defile the new flower that is blooming.

I believe that a similar thing will occur with the vaccine. If they were focused, they could force everybody on the planet to take it (except themselves of course). But many things will arise in the meantime that tempt their infantile egos. This will leave "open doors," allowing those that have refused the vaccine to pass through.

"They" are equivalent to a demonic juggler who, in the quest to juggle all the balls, must necessarily let several of them drop to the floor.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
Not sure if it is the right place but this is a little something that may help UK brothers in the future.

https://71633548c5390f9d8a76-11ea5e...843_Covid-19_Record_card_85x54mm_download.pdf


85mm by 54mm cardstock no idea on finish of stock though.


Thanks.

Ill have to look at my mothers card to check for any differences and what card they use.
 

Sisyphus

Woodpecker
I'm inclined to agree with those suggesting that a card with hand written scribbling will only suffice for so long and that getting into the database is the only feasible long-term solution. But let's operate on the assumption that one of these relatively easily prepared documents will buy us some time. Does anybody know how many vaccines the lot numbers cover? That is, when some ding dong proudly posts their little card on social media to exhibit their wokeness, will it be sufficient to use the same lot numbers and locations? Change it by one number or something along those lines?
 

hervens

Sparrow
The only black market solution I see at this point is to build a relationship with either a nurse, doctor, pharmacist or anyone else in position to administer covid vaccines.
You could then arrange for a fake shot where you would be given an actual lot number and be registered on whatever database they decide to use, and the dose you were to be given would be disposed of.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Gold Member
The only black market solution I see at this point is to build a relationship with either a nurse, doctor, pharmacist or anyone else in position to administer covid vaccines.
You could then arrange for a fake shot where you would be given an actual lot number and be registered on whatever database they decide to use, and the dose you were to be given would be disposed of.
Just bribe a Jewish doctor.
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
Where to is of course the crucial question, but even the best answer brings nothing if you're not allowed to move, so that's step 1.

If returning home means injecting some unknown poison against my will then it's not my home anymore and I would have to admit defeat - if only temporarily.
It certainly would not feel like "home anymore. But returning "home" on few occasions might be necessary, as I realized, as banks and brokers (speaking about American) are waging a war on expats, so one might need to fly back any time to prove their identity and get fund unfrozen. Moving all funds to 3rd world countries is not an option (a way to part with them forever).
Another thing is stuff like receiving pension, eventually - very likely might require travel back to prove your identity, as there's war on "fraud" everywhere right now, including government agencies. Selling a real estate investment, etc.
So this is a bottleneck for becoming an expat (US expat, at least) right now - the question is it worth risking not being able to come back because vaxx became a requirement. I think it's good to wait out the whole hoopla and see where it floats, and which countries do what restrictions....otherwise might go overseas and face real trouble coming back to take care of legal/financial stuff.
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
There should be market on the darknet. Need to dig around and see what's there....
Eventually, they'll try to tie the vaxx certs to identity verification including facial recognition and SSN using ID.me, Thopmson Reuters and other spying criminal companies (possibly even fingerprinting, but this is far fetched). Darknet market will need people with access to the right databases. Some of those Mexican doctors somewhere in Los Angeles... they should have entry.
Some of them go to lengths...
Law enforcement authorities this morning arrested four defendants charged in two federal grand jury indictments alleging a narcotics trafficking ring that sold illegal opioid prescriptions for cash through a series of sham medical clinics.
Majid Nojavan, 42, of Laguna Niguel, charged in a spinoff case from the primary investigation, who allegedly advertised oxycodone for sale on Craigslist, sold fentanyl to an undercover police officer, and escorted the undercover police office to an Inglewood medical clinic to obtain a fraudulent oxycodone prescription.
Drugs on craigslist, LOL...
I know they used to sell very realistic high-quality fake IDs outside one subway station in Los Angeles, some people showed me theirs: where there's demand, there'll be market.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
So this is a bottleneck for becoming an expat (US expat, at least) right now - the question is it worth risking not being able to come back because vaxx became a requirement.
The pertinent question is what on earth would ever be worth going back to a country that treats you like that?

Besides which a lot of that stuff is now online only because of COVID. You don’t even need necessarily to let every agency know.
 
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