Black market solutions to maintaining pre-COVID19 freedoms

presidentcarter

Ostrich
Protestant
Gold Member
"Just charge that apache helicopter with a spear. Stop playing their games you coward. I'm right behind you."
That's a poor analogy.

All I'm saying is that there are better uses of time for most people than figuring out how to snake through their 'vaccine passport' systems.

It's like the clear mesh masks out there that do nothing but tick the box while pointing to the irony. And for what? What's the point? At the end of the day you're still playing along.

Related: Crowder on rules constantly changing: "where does it all end?"

 
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Mountaineer

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
That's a poor analogy.

All I'm saying is that there are better uses of time for most people than figuring out how to snake through their 'vaccine passport' systems.

It's like the clear mesh masks out there that do nothing but tick the box while pointing to the irony. And for what? What's the point? At the end of the day you're still playing along.

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Louis IX

 
Banned
That's why I hate lies and especially the Jewish lies. Who are the criminals here? Small guys on the darknet offering a product for people who want to remain free? The real criminals are those who came up with this inhuman medical apartheid idea, who want to unlawfully put digital shackles on all of humanity. Not only they do this but they also have the audacity to call their opponents criminals. The nerve...
Of course this is speculation as I don't know the people behind the fake vaccine certificates but I think you are being a bit naive here. As someone who has had / has to work gravitating around criminal and semi-criminal structures /people ; you very often ( not systematically) find that the ones benefiting or owning "illegal/grey/darkweb " activities are usually criminals linked to the owner of the legal market.
The false dichotomy "official govmt approved business Vs dissident illegal resistant business" is simply a strategy to be able to both benefit from legal revenues and illegal revenues. The surplus created by the unofficial black business is usually reinvested in the real economy at a lower level - for example opening a bar or a coffee shop ; hairdresser ; clothes shop etc - but that is another topic.

See it a bit like republicans and democrats pretending to be two separate entities ; meeting around the table to allow an "extremist " third candidate who will play the dissident . They will bash him but in case he wins ; the house still wins.

This false dichotomy also leads to a certain relativism. The criminals fighting for freedom ; Robin Hood style ; is a leftist type of fantasy which should have no place on RVF.

The only true authentic resistance is the submission to God - to the Prince of Peace- as he will push us away from any type of crimes.
 

Oberrheiner

 
Banned
I knew people from rural Louisiana with French blood in them, very closely, in fact. They lived in the sticks for generations and don't care what government is there, hardly notice there's government at all. These are independent people who can take care of themselves, and the land - it feeds them, plus they have variety of handy uselful skills they could sell to others for income. Land is always there (until humans destroy all natural environment) and the government is just a temporary shadow upon its face.
Those I know are more urban and were hard hit by the government forbidding them to speak the language of their people, nowadays most kids just don't speak it anymore, only the grandparents.
Same as what france did to alsace after ww2 basically.

But yeah I guess if you live far enough in the sticks you just don't care anymore.
My grandfather once built himself a datcha in the forest, an hour away from a mid-sized russian city - he asked nobody and nobody ever said anything, in fact to this day I'm pretty sure nobody found out at all.
 

Mountaineer

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Of course this is speculation as I don't know the people behind the fake vaccine certificates but I think you are being a bit naive here. As someone who has had / has to work gravitating around criminal and semi-criminal structures /people ; you very often ( not systematically) find that the ones benefiting or owning "illegal/grey/darkweb " activities are usually criminals linked to the owner of the legal market.
The false dichotomy "official govmt approved business Vs dissident illegal resistant business" is simply a strategy to be able to both benefit from legal revenues and illegal revenues. The surplus created by the unofficial black business is usually reinvested in the real economy at a lower level - for example opening a bar or a coffee shop ; hairdresser ; clothes shop etc - but that is another topic.
The point I was making is that the oligarchs are the real criminals here.
 

Sitting Bull

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
Same as what france did to alsace after ww2 basically.

Or to Brittany, or to the French side of the Basque-speaking region.

My grandfather once built himself a datcha in the forest, an hour away from a mid-sized russian city - he asked nobody and nobody ever said anything, in fact to this day I'm pretty sure nobody found out at all.

If more people did this, most of the world's problems of today would disappear.
 
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flaghunter

Sparrow
This thread seems to have fallen off unfortunately.
Although I don't think a one off black market solution will be enough with talk of likely yearly boosters.
 

aynrus

 
Banned
This thread seems to have fallen off unfortunately.
Although I don't think a one off black market solution will be enough with talk of likely yearly boosters.
Looks like the real solution would be to escape the lifestyle and engagement with society, distancing from the points where the poison would be required, which may mean changing the country.

I think they'll fight against medical exemptions here in the US. One can just look at this document from NJ Department of health, where, on page 7, they describe various severe conditions that they claim people "falsely" believe would exempt them from older types of vaccines - basically they say that if you nearly died from previous injection this does not exempt you from repeating it. These criminals don't even accept paralysis (Guilliam-Barre) after the vaxx as a valid reason for medical exemption (!!) - they need to be handled like after Nuremberg trials, I'd gladly help out with that part.
Anaphylactic shock is the only grounds they accept (so one could tell them they got anaphylaxis on a trip overseas, where they "got" a dose of the hoax vaxx), but with multiple versions of hoax kill shots they can just say get another vaxx.
 

AntoniusofEfa

 
Banned
Looks like the real solution would be to escape the lifestyle and engagement with society, distancing from the points where the poison would be required, which may mean changing the country.

I think they'll fight against medical exemptions here in the US. One can just look at this document from NJ Department of health, where, on page 7, they describe various severe conditions that they claim people "falsely" believe would exempt them from older types of vaccines - basically they say that if you nearly died from previous injection this does not exempt you from repeating it. These criminals don't even accept paralysis (Guilliam-Barre) after the vaxx as a valid reason for medical exemption (!!) - they need to be handled like after Nuremberg trials, I'd gladly help out with that part.
Anaphylactic shock is the only grounds they accept (so one could tell them they got anaphylaxis on a trip overseas, where they "got" a dose of the hoax vaxx), but with multiple versions of hoax kill shots they can just say get another vaxx.
The loonies are running the show everywhere. All without any sort of factual evidence.
 
What about a black market solution to maintain employment? I work for an airline. Wearing the face diaper, mandatorily, at work when I wear it literally ZERO minutes when not at work is bad enough. Being forced to vax to maintain employment is a whole other game.

I mean, I could quit my job that pays extremely well and affords me a lot of time off. However, finding the black market solution until there are no solutions left seems more intelligent than quitting out of pride.

Now, one might say I should put my faith in the Lord and he will steer my path. Well, that’s also fine until the state comes knocking on my door because I’m unemployed and owe a ton of money in back child support.

Some of you need to stop being so hardlined and become the “gray man.”
 

Jamal D

Woodpecker
Agnostic
What about a black market solution to maintain employment? I work for an airline. Wearing the face diaper, mandatorily, at work when I wear it literally ZERO minutes when not at work is bad enough. Being forced to vax to maintain employment is a whole other game.

I mean, I could quit my job that pays extremely well and affords me a lot of time off. However, finding the black market solution until there are no solutions left seems more intelligent than quitting out of pride.

Now, one might say I should put my faith in the Lord and he will steer my path. Well, that’s also fine until the state comes knocking on my door because I’m unemployed and owe a ton of money in back child support.

Some of you need to stop being so hardlined and become the “gray man.”
That is just my point...it probably will catch up with you so it is a decision if global resistance (that everyone is part) is enough to stop it in the early days or not. And of course find ways to get yield on your money that makes you less dependent on an employer.

I happen to work in a lucrative job in healthcare to that might someday will put down the foot and make it mandatory. I won`t take it, and if they push me I plan to sue them, but so far my boss says I am safe as I never take sick leave.
 

El Draque

Pelican
Orthodox
I can confirm that it's possible to get the vax from a doctor privately in Poland. This is all that you need to 'sort this problem out'.

If by that you mean a variant of 'pay a doctor to squirt a vax into a plant-pot, then sign you off as branded', this seems the only sensible solution.

Forgery is a dangerous game to play. If you get caught doing it, dont be surprised to get an absurdly high fine / prison sentence for it. They will throw the absolute book at anyone "eNdAgErInG pUbLiC sAfEtY' like that.
 

aynrus

 
Banned
If by that you mean a variant of 'pay a doctor to squirt a vax into a plant-pot, then sign you off as branded', this seems the only sensible solution.

Forgery is a dangerous game to play. If you get caught doing it, dont be surprised to get an absurdly high fine / prison sentence for it. They will throw the absolute book at anyone "eNdAgErInG pUbLiC sAfEtY' like that.

That heavily depends on a country.
In many countries....not a problem.
 

Lian

Sparrow
Gold Member
Does anybody know a country one could fly to now and easily find a doctor that would accept payment to vax the sink?
Would it even be worth it though?

It seems to me everyone who took it for convenience rather than for health/fear/virtue signaling decided to do so because they assumed that it'd help them with travel, restrictions, testing requirements, etc, but from what I've heard and read it seems they were universally duped and taking it did none of that, except maybe avoiding the pre-travel test in a couple of places, but I don't follow any of this too closely so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

For a bit of a white pill perspective, my take is that any "vaccine passport" so many are rightly against will never come to fruition. How many countless millions have already taken this all over the world, in various settings, jurisdictions, etc? There is zero uniformity to any of it, and I think it's a huge stretch to think your average normie is going to take another injection just because their last one didn't technically qualify to be accepted for this or that restriction, country, etc. The main counter to that I can see is if they start to push booster shots, and by the time they do the uniformity is in place to a great enough degree... but I think so many are already so weary of all this, I'm just not sure they'd be able to get it over the line with that angle, if such a "good enough" uniformity is even possible which I doubt. If the vaccine passport thing could take hold, it'd already have started to, yet other than some weak attempts, it seems the gaping hole in the system (non-uniformity) is already insurmountable.

Already you're seeing fake vax certs in the news, and there really isn't much tangible benefit to getting one except again maybe avoiding the test. The market for redpill health professionals to shoot the thing into a plant would explode should vax certs start to offer real benefit, rendering the whole thing useless.

Who knows, just trying to be positive here.
 
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