Black Mirror (Incredible TV Show)

[CJ_W]

If you have time, watch the Black Mirror Christmas Special, then read this post from Roosh, then dig deep into quantum physics. (Warning: it's likely that watching a couple of YouTube videos won't be enough to really get it).

Even if you are skeptical, sticking only to what the world's foremost scientists are saying about the implications of quantum physics will blow your mind.

If you have taken on board all this, you might be ready for Tom Campbell. Settle back.

Nice, I've seen the x-mas special and have been into quantum theory since college (in laymens terms of course) I remember watching "what the bleep" many years ago when it first came out in theatres.

I'll check out the Roosh post and the Campbell thing, thanks.

Edit: Just read the Roosh post, and yeah I have heard of that theory before. Thing is, if that were true (the simuation thing) People would have been able to simply "will" themselves into the life they want, like imagining themselves to be super rich surrounded by tons of hot women, and been able to do it so completely that eventually it would come to pass with no work involved, or simply yet, will themselves to "fly" or "walk on water"(*I think you know what I'm getting at*)

When one person does this, it would create a kind of "Roger Banister effect" in which people who see someone else "will this to occur" will believe that it is possible and be able to replicate the results. Based on quantum theory, if someone were to be "aware" that they truly are in a simulation, even the idea that they were in one would produce this effect. No matter what parameters the simulation is set as.

I have heard of multiple theories of the universe, and once took a college cosmos class on this and have heard all the theories. Although the one that I like most is this:

The universe expands infinitely and will eventually die out (entropy heat death of the universe). However the universe is an actual organism, and reproduces other universes constantly through black holes large enough that the gravitation energy produced by exceptionally large ones (we actually had to calculate this at some point. . .don't ask me to do it now) essentially rips a path through this universe to go outside this universe and creates a "big bang", creating another universe, with it's own life, death and reproduction cycle.

Anyway we're getting a little off topic, and I see where you're going with that post, and what you're trying to "teach me" about which is fine, as I do find most of these things interesting anyway. . .it just really hasn't had must of an impact with making big changes in my life, or maybe it did and the changes were so gradual over a long period of time that I just didn't notice. Thing is I don't feel like this kind of "GOD" that can change my reality at will by just "thinking" it into being.

anyway yeah, enough of that in this thread. Feel free to PM me about it if you want to talk about this more. I hate derailing threads.

EDIT#2: Turns out I've already seen Tom Cambles vids, and don't really agree with it, but PM me for all of that(I believe in something a bit more fleshed out somewhat.)

 

[RexImperator]

Interesting analysis from Ribbonfarm.com:

http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2015/01/01/black-mirror-as-hell-is-other-people-futurism/

So what we have here is a dark but not dystopian show. A show about a steady loss of innocence through increasing knowledge (enabled by technological evolution rather than a fall from Eden), but not about apocalyptic collapses. A show that is not anti-technology per se, but about the idea that technology makes life easier in part by forcing harder, if rarer, choices upon us, as the price of automating simpler, more commonplace decisions. About going from moral mediocristan to moral extremistan.

It’s not quite a must-watch as far as the entertainment value goes. It has the ponderousness of a lecturing professor. But it’s a must-watch in the sense of cultural homework. People will be using the show as a reference point for talking about the emerging future for at least a few years. The conclusion most will jump to is that this is a show about tech dystopias, but it is really a show about the theory that hell is other people. The futurism angle is that information technology makes this particular kind of hell more possible.

 

[JJ Roberts]

How the fuck have I not heard a about this show before?!

 

[urbannomad]

******************Spoilers****************************

The value calculus is fairly transparent in the first six episodes (there are three episodes per season):

In National Anthem, it is human dignity versus human life.
In Fifteen Million Credits it is the innocence of soulful true love pitted versus the sacredness of the human body*
In The Entire History of You, it is relationship-enabling narratives versus the sanctity of truth
In Be Right Back, it is the pricelessness of memories versus the pricelessness of lived relationships
In White Bear, it is justice versus non-cruelty
In The Waldo Moment, it is truth-telling versus taking responsibility for your actions

I hope the director flip the script in "In Be Right Back" that episode was somewhat predictable. A new episode with man and robot
This woman got tired of those nostalgic feelings and wanted the real deal or (creativity a challenge and leadership). It's funny how in "Cherry 2000" (the Movie) the guy was anti-hypergamy Lol he refuse to upgrade and risk his life to have the same model and recurring themes.

All communication advances is fueled by erotic energy. The book Erotic engine goes in depth.

What will happen when this energy is gone?
What will become of new innovations ?
I believe Sex robots is the end game for women and all the games they play.

Joe Rogan Experience #342 - Dr. Christopher Ryan talk about the future sex briefly Dr Ryan says it breaks off in two directions
One merging with machines (singularity) Joe interrupts ( as usual) the Dr and he'd forgot to say the second one ...Interesting related Quote by Marshall McLuhan’s Man Becomes the Sex Organs of the Machine World

 

[CJ_W]

Joe Rogan Experience #342 - Dr. Christopher Ryan talk about the future sex briefly Dr Ryan says it breaks off in two directions
One merging with machines (singularity) Joe interrupts ( as usual) the Dr and he'd forgot to say the second one ...Interesting related Quote by Marshall McLuhan’s Man Becomes the Sex Organs of the Machine World

This is why I stopped listening to Joe Rogan's podcasts. the guy has some seriously great guests, but Joe will never shut the fuck up long enough to let us hear what the guests have to say, and it becomes an hour and a half waste of time. The Last ep I saw was when he had NDT on, that was so awful (Joe was) that I Just stopped caring after that

 

[amity]

I've just started watching this.
The Black Christmas episode was mindblowing! Highly recommended!
I've seen the first two episodes of the first series and Christ it's bleak.
Very original and imaginative, no question, but not for the faint hearted.
Looking forward to seeing the remaining episodes.
Definitely one of the most interesting shows I've seen in a long time.

 

[Brian Shima]

This show is similar to the Outer Limits from the 90s actually I prefer that over this

 

[2Wycked]

**Spoilers?**

Finished most of the episodes on Youtube.

RVF software ate my commentary on the first episode. That's on me -- I should write longer form posts by hand or on Word. I will try to redo it -- it was about when traditional channels of power (authority) come into conflict with non-traditional channels (influence) and why seemingly "democratic" power shifts don't result in more social betterment, justice, or X.

Beyond that, while the theme of cuckoldry seemed to hang around in a few episodes, what struck me most is how libertarianism is the solution to so many of the problems presented and that society so desperately clings to the status-quo that it prevents any real, substantive change.

Stuck in a world ever-increasingly dominated by technology and its ability to capitalize on humanity's desire for moral judgmentalism, revenge and jealousy, the world Black Mirror inhabits finds men and women trapped in a "privileged" world of hell where all their physical needs are met, but none of their emotional ones. Surrounded with all the accouterments and trappings of capitalistic success, they inhabit a world completely stripped and devoid of true, real human interaction.

In the "Black Christmas" episode, the main character finds his "daughter" is just a sham, just like she was before he saw her without the blocking. This represents how fake the world is, surrounded by technology which ostensibly makes our life easier while preventing us from actually engaging it and appreciating it.

My only other relevant commentary is about season 1, episode 3, where the main character rips the chip out from behind his ear. Often times, when technology seeks to liberate man, it only serves to further enslave him to human impulses technology can never control.

 

[dads]

This show sucks.

One of the main purposes of art is to provide a means of catharsis (yes you have your hangups and problems but others do to- you're not alone) or to provide redemption & hope (you will persevere through the struggle as long as you try - you'll get what you need just keep working hard and keep your faith).

This show doesn't have either hope or catharsis. It shows life as shit and you as shit and everything as hopeless. It's a black hole of misery & negativity.

It's been compared to Twilight Zone but this couldn't be further from the truth. This show ends (just as it begins) with everything being shit. Twilight Zone always ended with Rod Serling's voiceover sending a positive and inspiring message.

wow. just wow like literally what are you even

 

[JJ Roberts]

Ok so having never heard of this show 3 days ago I have now watched binge watched every single episode other than episode 3 in season 2.

This just is un-questionably fucking brilliant!!

 

[Plato]

Charlie Brooker is a legend here in the UK.

He is the funniest columnist in the newspapers. In a regular column he will literally astonish you with his creative use of language.

He is also brilliant for his TV rants on the state of the world.

Here is a great one he broadcast when Colonel Gaddafi was fighting to regain control of Libya a couple of years ago.

It is funny as fuck.



Check out his 'Screenwipe' TV series as well in which he deconstructs the world of TV. Here is a good one he did awhile ago about the sneaky editing that is commonplace now on reality TV.

 

[amity]

Series 1, Episode 3 is excellent! My favourite of the three in this series.
The main actor is very good, very naturalistic performance, and plenty of darkly comic moments in it.
If Episodes 1 and 2 knocked the stuffing out of you, chin up lad, Episode 3 is worth the wait and feels more like a more real future scenario than the first two.

 

[Apollo]

**Spoilers**

Good Q&A with the creator of the show:



I agree with him that the technology should not be used as an object of scorn, it merely facilitates the harmful, anti-social behaviors that humans instinctively possess under certain conditions. Too often, we're peddled the idea that new technological innovations only serve the benefit of mankind, and questions surrounding their potentially harmful effects on individuals, groups, and culture are often negated or dismissed entirely. This show does a great job of offering that contrarian vantage, directing us to take a step back to realize these things which we regard as "progress" as being potentially destructive under the wrong circumstances.

Regarding S1E3, I thought it was a great episode for the mere fact that we are pretty much (technologically) already there. Back in the day, all a woman had to do to conceal her slutty past was shut her mouth about her sexual history, deny, deny, deny and play the part of a doting wife and mother. Today, to conceal her past, she has to become an expert in computer forensics to attempt to delete all of the texts, nude pics and recorded sexual acts (which may or may not have been shared in the public domain) she has performed with the guys who were able to swoop her and then hope she can lock down a rich simp. Plot aside, it shows that even while our technology has changed, it does not change basic human values or how we react to the cruelty of others, it only exaggerates the truth about ourselves.

Like others, I binged this show a couple nights ago and was very impressed. Hopefully we can get some more episodes in the future.

 

[Sudden]

Just discovered the show this past weekend and ended up viewing the entire show (something I usually regard as wasting time, but given the excellence of this show I didn't mind).

SPOILER-ISH BELOW

In addition to the merit of each separate episode individually, I also thought the ordering of the episodes in the first season to be sort of meta-good (though I watched the third episode first as it was an endorsement of "The Entire History of You" that led me to view it). The first episode is completely contemporary. There is no technology above what we have now, it's entire setting is current. It demonstrates how our current technology is debasing ourselves in many ways. And in the very next episode, Booker takes you to the farthest technological dystopia imaginable. The first season then concludes with a very realistic potential near-future world, with an embedded google glass. The second season does feel just a tad bit disappointing after the first three episodes, but still quality with some apt and cutting social commentary. The recent Xmas special redeemed the second season largely. It would've been a shame for the Waldo Moment to be the final episode as it was the least compelling of the show.

 

[Windom Earle]

Just finished the entire series.

Very dark/disturbing subject matter which also makes for compelling viewing.

White Christmas was the standout.

Anyone who hasn't seen the show should take a look.

 

[Fortis]

I just watched the third episode.

That was terribly depressing. holy shit. Any guy who claims to have taken the redpill needs to watch that episode.

 

[Atlanta Man]

The Christmas Special is on YouTube, I watched it this morning just to spite monster. I even laughed a few times!

That was good and I did not see the surprise ending coming.

 

[MaxJames]

Netflix has picked it up.

New season coming up.

Here is the trailer

 

[numanist]

Season 3 is coming out on the 20th.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Saw the series. I do it while working on less mentally consuming things.

Either way - it is excellent - bigger budget than before and better writing.

It has of course the usual predictive programming with plenty of propaganda embedded, but it tells you well where the elite is going with the world.

As usual the makers are highly versed and initiated:

1 "Nosedive" Joe Wright Story by : Charlie Brooker
Teleplay by : Rashida Jones & Mike Schur 21 October 2016
Starring: Bryce Dallas Howard, Alice Eve, James Norton and Cherry Jones
9 2 "Playtest" Dan Trachtenberg Charlie Brooker 21 October 2016
Starring: Wyatt Russell, Hannah John-Kamen, Wunmi Mosaku and Ken Yamamura
10 3 "Shut Up and Dance" James Watkins Charlie Brooker & William Bridges 21 October 2016
Starring: Alex Lawther & Jerome Flynn
11 4 "San Junipero" Owen Harris Charlie Brooker 21 October 2016
Starring: Gugu Mbatha-Raw & Mackenzie Davis
12 5 "Men Against Fire" Jakob Verbruggen Charlie Brooker 21 October 2016
Starring: Malachi Kirby, Michael Kelly, Madeline Brewer & Sarah Snook
13 6 "Hated in the Nation" James Hawes Charlie Brooker 21 October 2016

The entire series has the conventional talking points of diversity, gay marriage, gay weddings and social media top-down control embedded in it, but the main points of each show are interesting and very telling:


Spoilers:








1) Social media control where everyone can rate anyone and the ones with the highest social media scores win the game getting perks, prices and better jobs. This is already being implemented in China! The people get negative scores for being non-PC or even associating with non-PC people online or real life!

2) There are many memes about euthanasia, about brutally applied eugenics. Euthanasia should go hand in hand with a transcendence to a perfect virtual reality. That is one big theme of the elite supposedly, but I seriously doubt this will pan out. Super-intelligent family inbreeding did not work for them as they attempted to in the 19th century - the big guys are sometimes wrong on certain things. Of course maybe they will be able to convince a few blokes to 'upload' themselves online and then let themselves be killed. But if you are dumb enough to fall for it, then you deserve to be killed.

3) There is one example of advanced implant-brain conditioning where soldiers in wars will see the target - even if harmless women and children - as terrible screeching monsters and can pull the trigger easily. Dehumanizing the enemy not only via past propaganda, but via life-gaming style alteration of reality.

4) You also get a glimpse into modern warfare technology and one big reason why I never ever fear a global caliphate. You see in one episode what self-reproducing tiny military-grade bots can do against a WWII-style military - essentially you can have billions of them produced and swarm out against even one billion soldiers. That technology is not even far off - if at all far away.

Also there ubiguitous nods to the full surveillance state that we live in. Among those one of the reasons why Zuckerberg-sugarmountain blocks his notebook mics and camera (like I do - well not the mic, but at least the camera).

Either way - a great show that the big boys are showing us - all clad in entertainment that will just familiarize us with the future - as they are planning something that is a mixture of all that is shown.