The Lesser Evil said:
Guess what! What my culture is basically "wasp"! My goverment name is super "waspy" I'm from a northeastern commonwealth state, etc. Other than our phenotype everything about most so called Black American's culture mostly is wasp.It's NOT AFRICAN I can tell you that much. My initial point was that America is anglo Aaxon culturally not Iberian like Brazil or Puerto Rico so Black women (people) have HISTORICALLY
have not been consider beautiful at all when juxtapose to White women. If haven't notice most of the founder of this country were Anglos as are much of the US elite families, and institutions, etc.
That post was about the "Somatic Norm Image"(Look it up!)of the USA and it went over quite well I might add. And that was like 3 month's ago, anyway. I didn't start this current thread about Black Women. I merely said that the topic has been exhausted and I explained WHY most White Men tend NOT to find Black women attractive. The Lebron Vogue cover was big new a few years ago. I used it show how American continues to see Black men as predators and at sexual threat. Pm me so I can get you some books and school you on the subject, lil homey. As far as be being a troll I hope not, most of my post are on Appilication of the pimp game. The Pimp is outside the matrix that 99.9 men live and when he is at his best and is thee apex of "inner game" and "outer game". Check out my blog and get a panoramic view...
No one here is your "lil homey". Least of all me.
Remember that.
All caps posts and devaluation of forum members will get you no respect on this forum.
Now, I get how you want to "school" everyone, to what end, and I get your "Somatatic Norm Image" paradigm. We get the smartest motherfucker on the block, in that persons opinion, in here about once every couple of months or so. They come and want to school the forum on their perspectives on life, and they get beligerent and disrespectful when doing so or when others disagree or call them out on bad forum manners.
The somatic norm image paradigm keeps getting repeated, and I get the model. However, I still hold that your image posted on the left is racially inflammatory and currently irrelevant (hence trollish).
Which was my point.
I know what you were using the Vogue issue to do, but my point was that you can't cherry pick one de-contextualized magazine ad and make a definitive conclusion about "society" or what the white man is trying to do to you based on that image, when so many others don't depict black men that way. You are choosing to look at this image that way, of a black basketball player making a basketball face, who is frankly huge and and therefore ominous looking no matter what he does, and interpreting it to fit your socio-political conclusions. To say that it is a poorly supported and sociologically invalid conclusion would be insulting poorly supported conclusions everywhere.
In terms of you recomending books to me, I no more want to read further about your black persecution perspective then you want to read about my white issues. Or is it that blacks are the only one with relevant race issues in this day and age?
The point is that that's not what this forum is for, unless this forum is going single race anytime soon. Is it?
You're wrong about most white men not finding attractive black women attractive. You just make that statement becasue it's what corroborates the model that you like. It's a conclusion with no objective support. It's conjecture used to affirm your cultural paradigm.
I get just as hard from a hot black woman as I do any other woman, as do most white men, but she has to be legitimately attractive by North American standards of weight and facial structure. No double standards. We are entitled to determine our own standards for attractiveness, yes? If so, then it holds that we have a right to reject certain black women without being held accountable under your Somatic image norm model, and hence not being accused of soft (or even good old fashioned) racism due to our preference for sexual attractiveness. To me, that model seems like an intellectual cop-out for both the people getting rejected that don't meet the image as well as many of the other plainly obvious and deeper issues that prevent significant integration and intermixing of blacks and whites. It's an "easy out" that allows implications of racism to avoid the deeper issues.
When those deeper issues are traversed, then mixed couples seem to do fine.
So, now black culture is "wasp" culture, even though you used it to illustrate why black men are portrayed negatively, in your opinion. So, it's at once your culture and it also portrays you negatively. Nice reasoning.
Again, you don't know what WASP culture is, apparently. I went to the WASPiest of WASP prep schools, and I have some WASPS in my family through marriage, and trust me, it in no way shape or form did my school or extended family members embody the broader culture of black america. That's not to say that black individuals can't adopt WASP culture, as many in my school appeared to, even more so then myself, but the school sure as hell didn't and doesn't embody broader black culture. It deosn't even embody broader white culture, although there are more similarities, I suppose, in broader white culture. However, most WASPS form traditional WASP culture see poor whites, or new money, as separate from their culture (or uncultured). Most white neither apsire to true WASP culture nor are they particullary aware of it. If they become more status conscious, then perhaps they gain some awareness. Many poor blacks seem to be more status conscious then poor whites, and therefore perhaps they take it upon themselves to be more "WASP aware" and they mirror what they believe that culture to be (how its advertised to them). However, the deeper cultural mechanisms of that culture remain a mystery to most whites (and most people not raised in it). I'm still learning myself, if for no other reason but to interact with my broader secondary school alumni network. You have to be raised in it, or trained, to get it, generally, and they are experts at recognizing outsiders. If you miss a social cue, then you've fucked up.
Your "government" name huh? Well, whats your "non-government" name?
What I'm saying is that if you want to lecture about black and white race isuses, then this forum is probably the wrong place. Notice how I'm not engaging you on those issues on a deep level, only calling out the trolling and some of the hypocracy. I won't go further becasue no one, of the other race, wants to read it. Get it?
Your asking us to think about black issues in relation to the white man. That's what your continued, unmoderated posts would have us do. We've been taught all our lives to think of things from the black mans perspective, through diversity training. Have you thought about the white man's perspctive, once in your life? How accurate do you beleive your perception is?
Certainly, sir, you don't mean to have your posts be one sided discussions comprised of all black men, do you? Or do you?
(The questions of the past two paragraphs are all rhetorical)
See where this goes?
These are the conversations that are innapropriate for this board, imo. It's just not that kind of board. I don't think Roosh wants it, and I certainly don't have the inclination to "school" your ass. It's a waste of time. You want to view the world how you want to view it. So, let's leave it be. I just don't want to keep eating your race oriented shit sandwich as we go about our business, not least of all because I'm quite sure that the only opinion that will be politically correct enough for you to stomach, is your own. M'kay?
