This is re-investigation is gonna be interesting. There was 5K in that apt that wasn't taken so it doesn't look like a robbery. The doors weren't broken into so it wasn't a break-in, most prally someone they knew. Plus, weed was sprinkled all over their body, maybe someone making a statement on their drug use/drug-dealing.AFspecOps said:
Boston Bombs on Boylston St?
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AFspecOps said:
1. Many hospitals have Jewish and Catholic names because of their founding. The doctors who work there are not necessarily going to be of that faith. Any hospital in the US is going to have Jewish or Indian doctors.
2. Tamerlane is regarded as a military genius in Central Asia and a patron of the arts. The countries he invaded ofcourse regard him as an aggressor.
InternationPlayboy said:
The old testament is judiaism, and has a mixture of violence and peace.
The new testament is Christianity, and is 99% peaceful.
The Koran is Islam, and more violent than either of the two texts mentioned above.
Seriously man, go read the Koran and see the passages about killing infidels and stuff. You'll see. What's funny about Islam in America is that an overwhelming majority of children born to Islamic immigrants become atheists, most likely because they realize their faith is whack.
Eldon said:
True, it's all relative. But as his latest biographer Justin Marozzi says, the MILLIONS he slaughtered – ‘buried alive, cemented into walls, massacred on the battlefield, sliced in two at the waist, trampled to death by horses, beheaded, hanged’ – would have had a different opinion!
Samseau said:
Also, there is no universal 'love thy neighbor' brotherhood in Islam. It operates on a two-tier system. The Koranic verses that are 'peaceful' only apply to fellow Muslims, not Kafirs.
The vast majority of Christians do not follow the Old Testament (pre-Christ), but Muslims are expected to follow all of the Koran. Much of the content can legitimately be considered Hate Speech, particularly against Jews, kafirs, and women.
InternationPlayboy
Crow
Samseau said:
I understand all this. But still, Christians read out of the same bible as the old testament. This is essentially the same god. Either way you look at it, at one point in time, this god was telling people to essentially kill infidels as well. To reinforce my argument about Islamic violence being more a part of the culture and not the religion, can you point out a significant number of Turkish terrorists for example, who's country is made up of a 99.8% Muslim population? Or Moroccan? I'm sure you'll find a few, but keep in mind Turkey is one of the most populated countries in the world. Just like you'll find Christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics. It's about the way it's taught and the evil people relaying the hateful messages. If I was manipulative, I'm sure I could pick out many hateful verses in the Christian bible and convince some gullible sheep that we need to take out all "infidels" as well. The thing is, in the US people are more educated and know that this type of behavior is not acceptable. Many people in the middle east just aren't educated enough to know better. This has to do with education, demographics, politics, etc.
InternationPlayboy said:
It's not at all. Christians take the word of the New over the Old. Two different Gods. A lot of people make this criticism.
Actually Turkish Islamic violence is extremely common. Have you ever tried talking to a Turk? One of my best friends is from Turkey. He tells me all the time about how the Government has to battle Muslims.
Turkey is essentially divided - you've got the West cost of Turkey alongside the Mediterranean that is cosmopolitan, and the east side of Turkey that is backwards and fundamentalist.
There is a mandatory draft in Turkey, and all the soldiers of Turkey are sent to the East to do battle and keep the peace against the non-stop Islamic violence.
The level of violence between Islamic and Christian fundamentalists isn't close. The USA doesn't need a mandatory draft just to combat Christian fundamentalists like Turkey does with it's Islamic fundamentalists.
No, you couldn't, because there is nothing in the New Testament that's very violent.
And you share the same sentiment Bojangles does below...
bojangles said:
This is a fallacy. The idea that you can separate culture from religion is nonsense.
Religion has transformed every culture on the planet. Most anthropologists consider religion a necessary requirement to build any civilization. There has not been a single civilization on the planet without a religion.
Religion has more impact on a people than education, family, genetics, or culture, combined. It IS the culture.
It is only in today's world that religion has faded, but for the past 100,000 years Religion = Culture.
InternationPlayboy
Crow
Yes, I've talked to a good amount of Turks. My girlfriend happens to be Turkish. The violence in the east you speak of, are you referring to the Kurdish conflict? Cause if so that's more of a freedom movement than religious movement. The Turks are not radicals by any means. Sure there may be a few, but 99% of Turks are peaceful and follow religion as it should be in this day and age. The other issue turkey faces to the east are Syrians flooding across the borders, but that's a refugee issue, not religious.
How can you tell me that the god if the old and New Testament are different? The are both the god of Abraham. So if the Christians don't follow the Old Testament, then they don't even believe how the world was created in genesis? That's b/s, they follow mad teachings of the Old Testament, and since they do, who's to say which ones are to be followed and which not? You can't say the book of genesis is correct but the book of Deuteronomy is not.
How can you tell me that the god if the old and New Testament are different? The are both the god of Abraham. So if the Christians don't follow the Old Testament, then they don't even believe how the world was created in genesis? That's b/s, they follow mad teachings of the Old Testament, and since they do, who's to say which ones are to be followed and which not? You can't say the book of genesis is correct but the book of Deuteronomy is not.
violence in turkey is kurdish separatist movement, it's similar to when the hungarians had their uprising against the soviets...nothing to do with islam. Turks are a secular nation, the country was created on the basis of secularism.
Religion is not culture, maybe it is in the USA, there's places around the world where people of different religions follow the same practices inspite of their religious differences. That's the influence of their culture.
Religion is not culture, maybe it is in the USA, there's places around the world where people of different religions follow the same practices inspite of their religious differences. That's the influence of their culture.
InternationPlayboy
Crow
Yep, the Kurds are not extremists at all, they just want independence. Hell, half their militia are women. You think radical Muslim extremists would have a dominant woman militia? These are they same people saddam used biological and chemical weapons on in the gulf war.
InternationPlayboy
Crow
Giovonny said:
That's what I'm saying. Both are definitely the god of Abraham, along with Islam as well. All three religions, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam worship the same god, the god of Abraham. They all have separate profits however. Anyone who disagrees is simply wrong. Those are the facts.
I think Bojangles and I justify our argument with the Turkish example. Turkey is a prime example of how Islam can still be practiced, yet not made radical in a country and ultimately be a simple choice of faith. My girls family are Turkish-Muslims, and they know that I come from a Christian family (Though I'm non-practicing), yet they have absolutely no problem with us dating.
Blackhawk said:
WASHINGTON (AP) - Two U.S. officials say the surviving suspect in the Boston bombings was unarmed when police captured him hiding inside a boat in a neighborhood back yard.
Authorities originally said they had exchanged gunfire with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev for more than one hour Friday evening before they were able to subdue him.
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation, say investigators recovered a 9 mm handgun believed to have been used by Tsarnaev's brother, Tamerlan, from the site of a gun battle Thursday night, which injured a Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority officer. Dzhokhar was believed to have been shot before he escaped.
The officials tell The Associated Press that no gun was found in the boat. Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis said earlier that shots were fired from inside the boat
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/256299/158/Officials-Suspect-Unarmed-When-Arrested-In-Boat
Media is fabricated, always trying to sell the best story at any particular time. Assumptions solely based on the media should be taken with a pinch of salt.
and just for laughs ..
Article: 10 dumb things the Bombers did!
http://www.news.com.au/world-news/d...fter-the-atttack/story-fndir2ev-1226629269431
If Katherine Russell (Tamerlan's widow) decided to renounce her Muslim faith, she could be beheaded, or executed in another way.
In 1400 years, there has never been a system of Islamic law that did not prescribe the death penalty for any Muslim wanting to leave Islam. Even in modern secular Islamic countries with constitutions guaranteeing freedom of religion, there is de facto enforcement of this law with intimidation and the occasional murder of apostates.
But in classic Muslim-doublespeak, the call themselves the Religion of Peace.
In 1400 years, there has never been a system of Islamic law that did not prescribe the death penalty for any Muslim wanting to leave Islam. Even in modern secular Islamic countries with constitutions guaranteeing freedom of religion, there is de facto enforcement of this law with intimidation and the occasional murder of apostates.
But in classic Muslim-doublespeak, the call themselves the Religion of Peace.
AFspecOps said:
Every religion calls itself 'The Religion of Peace', every religion lies. Hell my religion says the universe is approximately 9 billion years old, it's still fucking lying
It's also why Monty Python's Life Of Brian is one of my favourite movies, the stoning scene is fucking great.
Found in yahoo:
—" The Office of Health and Human Services in Massachusetts confirmed a Boston Herald report Wednesday that Tamerlan, his wife and toddler daughter had received welfare benefits up until last year, when he became ineligible based on family income. The state also says Tamerlan and his brother received welfare benefits as children through their parents while the family lived in Massachusetts."
I am willing to bet not many folks on social assistance run marathons or are spectators of them, therefore I will group them in the tax paying group. As a taxpayer i Would be pissed off that my hard earned dollars are feeding these moochers. He has time and money to travel to Russia and has leisure time to get brain washed. Had he been busy working, he probably would have not went through these measures. They caused so much mischief after the fact with the costs associated with this fiasco. Free handouts also ruin people. From these idiots to many others seen on those world star hip hop videos.
Gonna go off on a tangent, but the social welfare system is broken in many countries, social assistance needs to be overhauled and make those people work for their money, they can wake up at 5am , clean streets, be security guards or crossing guards in their neighbourhoods etc, the more productive they are, the more they will get. Of course, radicalization is not necessarily born from being rich or poor. Maybe in this case it might be applicable. Disagree or agree with me, I don't want my taxed dollars feeding lazy able bodied people who can work and be productive. Those who are sick, disabled etc, no problem. But for these idiots who only got into America because of its over generous refugee system should have been kissing Americans for saving them from the life back in the caucuses.
—" The Office of Health and Human Services in Massachusetts confirmed a Boston Herald report Wednesday that Tamerlan, his wife and toddler daughter had received welfare benefits up until last year, when he became ineligible based on family income. The state also says Tamerlan and his brother received welfare benefits as children through their parents while the family lived in Massachusetts."
I am willing to bet not many folks on social assistance run marathons or are spectators of them, therefore I will group them in the tax paying group. As a taxpayer i Would be pissed off that my hard earned dollars are feeding these moochers. He has time and money to travel to Russia and has leisure time to get brain washed. Had he been busy working, he probably would have not went through these measures. They caused so much mischief after the fact with the costs associated with this fiasco. Free handouts also ruin people. From these idiots to many others seen on those world star hip hop videos.
Gonna go off on a tangent, but the social welfare system is broken in many countries, social assistance needs to be overhauled and make those people work for their money, they can wake up at 5am , clean streets, be security guards or crossing guards in their neighbourhoods etc, the more productive they are, the more they will get. Of course, radicalization is not necessarily born from being rich or poor. Maybe in this case it might be applicable. Disagree or agree with me, I don't want my taxed dollars feeding lazy able bodied people who can work and be productive. Those who are sick, disabled etc, no problem. But for these idiots who only got into America because of its over generous refugee system should have been kissing Americans for saving them from the life back in the caucuses.
The guy that Redit falsely accused of being of the bombers has been found dead
http://news.yahoo.com/body-found-water-missing-brown-student-143448588.html
http://news.yahoo.com/body-found-water-missing-brown-student-143448588.html