Bowhunting - Spearfishing- Game Primal Connection

General Stalin

Crow
Gold Member
Looking to do my first Elk hunt in Colorado this Fall. Likely November. This will be a rifle hunt I'm all set with bow hunting. AneroidOcean is the resident spear fisherman.
 

sterling_archer

Hummingbird
John Galt, if you really change your compound with your made self bow, expect some changes in your hunt. Never hunted with bow, obviously, but I talked a lot with self bow archers and they all really like the change. Apparently you must get closer, arrows need to be selected differently (as you probably know), you cannot hold full draw like with compound because the bow will develop compression marks, etc. etc.

I think you are gonna enjoy it, especially if you do it with made of cool looking wood, such as osage orange. You didn't answer my question on bow datasheet. I asked you about what woods do you have in Idaho.
 

JohnGalt007

Pigeon
sterling_archer said:
John Galt, if you really change your compound with your made self bow, expect some changes in your hunt. Never hunted with bow, obviously, but I talked a lot with self bow archers and they all really like the change. Apparently you must get closer, arrows need to be selected differently (as you probably know), you cannot hold full draw like with compound because the bow will develop compression marks, etc. etc.

I think you are gonna enjoy it, especially if you do it with made of cool looking wood, such as osage orange. You didn't answer my question on bow datasheet. I asked you about what woods do you have in Idaho.

In Idaho we have Pine , Cedar varieties. I also live in Estonia part of the Year and we have some nice oaks here. I think for my first bow that I make I will use a wood blank.

Dr Ashby did a study on selfbows and Arrow lethality that I think you would really enjoy reading. I will see If I can find it. Putting a lethal combo togethor with a home-made self bow is a bit more difficult than a compound.
 

JohnGalt007

Pigeon
General Stalin said:
Looking to do my first Elk hunt in Colorado this Fall. Likely November. This will be a rifle hunt I'm all set with bow hunting. AneroidOcean is the resident spear fisherman.

First Elk hunt, thats awesome! Be careful its very addicting.

DO you hunt other species ?
 

sterling_archer

Hummingbird
JohnGalt007 said:
In Idaho we have Pine , Cedar varieties. I also live in Estonia part of the Year and we have some nice oaks here. I think for my first bow that I make I will use a wood blank.

Dr Ashby did a study on selfbows and Arrow lethality that I think you would really enjoy reading. I will see If I can find it. Putting a lethal combo togethor with a home-made self bow is a bit more difficult than a compound.

I answered you on my thread.
 

General Stalin

Crow
Gold Member
Nope this will be my first time killing and eating an animal on land. I grew up deep sea fishing never hunted. I'm going bird hunting next month to get my feet wet.
 

Hannibal

Ostrich
Catholic
Gold Member
sterling_archer said:
John Galt, if you really change your compound with your made self bow, expect some changes in your hunt. Never hunted with bow, obviously, but I talked a lot with self bow archers and they all really like the change. Apparently you must get closer, arrows need to be selected differently (as you probably know), you cannot hold full draw like with compound because the bow will develop compression marks, etc. etc.

The biggest problem is that you can't leave your bow strung for hours at a time with a self made bow, assuming it's not some elaborate laminated recurve.

Arrows must be weighted, sure, but this is easily done outside of the field.

I don't know what the "closer" has to do with anything unless they're sitting in a tree stand.

The Natives didn't mess around with much beyond a 40 or 50 lb draw because they learned how to stalk.
 

Kona

Crow
Gold Member
I've been spear fishing my whole life. I just hit an ulua aka giant travelly last week. Thing was huge. Great on the grill. Thats not me, but it gives you an idea of how big the good ones are:
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Mainly I just swim for lobsters now. Its best to go at night, but you gotta know what's what because its dangerous. I have tons of lobsters right in front of my house. There's a season, which I don't care about. The way I see it, its my beach and intake care of it. I've had agents standing right there when income out and just say "is that your house" and let me go on my way.

If I have a party, I catch a bunch over a few days and put them in a kiddie pool with an air pump. They're sturdy little fuckers. I'll dump in two or three bottles of chili pepper water and let in seep into their system for a few days. That's the best way.


There was a surge a few years ago of good looking girls getting into freedive and fishing. It was led by Kimi Werner.
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I think it was more for their instagrams, but a lot were doing it. I had tons of sluts want to come up and go with me. I'm bald the trend is over. Most were just whiners.

Aloha!
 

General Stalin

Crow
Gold Member
talk about coincidence. Found out tonight that one of my good friends' girlfriend is a long time archer/bow hunter. It's a sort of family trade between her and her parents and siblings. She's going to show me the ropes.
 

MOVSM

Pelican
Gold Member
I'm here seething with jealousy. I've been going hunting for several years now, but I'm yet to see anything bigger than a squirrel while in a stand.
This year I geared up for a bow hunt, since the season is longer and hopefully I'll identify my mistakes.
All you hunting gurus--do you have any tips? How do you keep still for so many hours?
 

JohnGalt007

Pigeon
MOVSM said:
I'm here seething with jealousy. I've been going hunting for several years now, but I'm yet to see anything bigger than a squirrel while in a stand.
This year I geared up for a bow hunt, since the season is longer and hopefully I'll identify my mistakes.
All you hunting gurus--do you have any tips? How do you keep still for so many hours?

I do most of my hunting spot and stalk out west, but I also hunt whitetails from stands. i bring a book that requires deep thaught. I like to read philosophy in the tree stand . This year Ive got Seneca in my pack. Turn the pages slowly and between each page look around.
 

roberto

Pelican
Gold Member
JohnGalt007 said:
MOVSM said:
I'm here seething with jealousy. I've been going hunting for several years now, but I'm yet to see anything bigger than a squirrel while in a stand.
This year I geared up for a bow hunt, since the season is longer and hopefully I'll identify my mistakes.
All you hunting gurus--do you have any tips? How do you keep still for so many hours?

I do most of my hunting spot and stalk out west, but I also hunt whitetails from stands. i bring a book that requires deep thaught. I like to read philosophy in the tree stand . This year Ive got Seneca in my pack. Turn the pages slowly and between each page look around.

Lacking the concentration for this is why most of my shooting is vermin using thermal and night vision equipment from the comfort of a heated truck cab with a flask of coffee... :angel:
 

Kona

Crow
Gold Member
I'm going lobster hunting right now. I want 40 by my labor day party.

Four tools: big ass spotlight, long rod with fork end that's technically for locksmiths to open cars, heavy duty mesh bag, really good mask.

Its half moon and cloudy, but warm.

I spread a bunch of bacon bits out in my lucky spot earlier today. Then you get mason jars and put some crisco in them, about an ice cream scoop. Bury them lid side down near rocks. Let the lobsters dig in there.

Aloha!
 

JohnGalt007

Pigeon
Headed to Budapest today to Hunt Red Stag, Mouflon Sheep , ROe Deer. Bringing my Hoyt Compound . Its the middle of the Red Stag hunting breeding right now and the bulls are "roaring". Ill be hunting with a small group of peer aged european men that will also be coming to idaho this fall to hunt ELk with me. Im sure we will make it out in Budapest for some hunting 2 legged split tails....

Ill post back with the results of the hunt.
 

JohnGalt007

Pigeon
Kona said:
I'm going lobster hunting right now. I want 40 by my labor day party.

Four tools: big ass spotlight, long rod with fork end that's technically for locksmiths to open cars, heavy duty mesh bag, really good mask.

Its half moon and cloudy, but warm.

I spread a bunch of bacon bits out in my lucky spot earlier today. Then you get mason jars and put some crisco in them, about an ice cream scoop. Bury them lid side down near rocks. Let the lobsters dig in there.

Aloha!

How did you make out on the bugs? Have you had succsess with spearing large pelagics in Hawaii? Ive heard the diving is very deep there. A buddy of mine told me that you have to hit 100ft to spear the big fish..
 

JohnGalt007

Pigeon
sterling_archer said:
How can you just go to the country and hunt? Aren't there some permits, needing to be member of hunting clubs or such? You are just a tourist.

Hi Sterling Archer,

Very good question. I will be bringing my IBEP (INternational BOwhunters Education Permit) , in addition to my Idaho Hunting licence from the USA which hungary will recognize and issue me a local licence. I have networked with Landowners in Hungary and exchanged for them to come hunting with me for allowing me to hunt on their lands. I will have a tag/licence for 1 Stag, 1 Mouflon Sheep, 1 Roe Deer , 1 wild boar. I will be there for 6 full days of hunting.

Usually it would be very expensive to hunt these animals but since I have bartered hunting in the USA the cost for me is only airfare etc..

I have also hunted in Latvia, Estonia and Finland with similar scenarios.
 
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