British Health Chief: 1 In 10 Men Aren’t The Father

[david.garrett84]

Surprising but also refreshing that one of the senior leaders of the National Health Service would admit this.

It’s also terrifying in a way, as those pursuing genetic testing for diseases are likely to have some means/better education. These aren’t just the typical plebs and chavs who have appeared on the now defunct Jeremy Kyle Show and find out they were cucked by their unintelligible female mate.

The people referenced in this article are actually taking the time to engage in family planning and oversight.

Note how the genetic testing lobby is throwing so much weight behind warning folks about the “trauma” of exposing paternity fraud. We all know it’s a cover for shielding women from moral responsibility, let alone any obligation to compensate duped men.

It’s little wonder that countries like France have close to banned paternity testing without a time-consuming and expensive resort to courts.

The NHS is also a joke because it permits breast enhancement and transgender surgeries, but doesn’t fund something as basic as paternity testing.

The Telegraph:

One person in 10 is mistaken about the identity of their father, reveals NHS chief

One person in 10 is mistaken about the identity of their father, genetic tests for hereditary illnesses are revealing, according to an NHS chief.

The era of genomic medicine is allowing doctors to screen rising numbers for preventative action against diseases such as cancer and Alzheimer’s.

About 220,000 such tests are carried out by the NHS in England and Scotland each year.

But Ian Cumming, head of Health Education England, the NHS training body, said hospitals were being left in an ethical quandary as they were uncovering some awkward family secrets.

It is currently estimated that around 4 per cent of the population are unaware the man they call their father is not their true biological relative.

Mr Cumming told the Hay Festival that within a decade everyone who wanted to be genome tested could be.

“But it is not without controversy,” he warned. “If you look at people who have had genetic tests within families for reasons other than trying to work out paternity, for one in 10 people your dad isn’t who you think it is.”

He said this was the dilemma: “Are we going to tell people: ‘That’s not your dad’ – or are we going to keep that information to ourselves? I don’t think that would be acceptable ethically.”

Last year the Human Fertility and Embryology Authority called on DNA testing websites to warn people of the risk of uncovering traumatic family secrets and underlying health problems.

Some sites offer to reveal lineage, ancestry and long lost relatives simply by posting a saliva sample.

The authority said tests could also enable people to track down anonymous sperm and egg donors, or show a break in paternity.

As early as 2005 Liverpool University and health experts warned in the BMJ that genetic testing could throw up such problems.

The NHS carries out family screening for genes that raise the risk of breast and ovarian cancer and genetic problems in pregnancy, among other issues.

In March Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, called for genetic tests for common cancers and heart disease to be rolled out.

However, the tests have been criticised for causing stress and confusion and even fostering a kind of fatalism that would make people stop taking care of themselves.

Mr Cumming said that while genetics offered new hope for preventing disease, there were difficult ethical challenges that needed addressing.

Prof Mark Bellis, an author of the original 2005 study into non-paternity, said: “Despite genomics creeping into many aspects of health treatments and prevention, we seem to be choosing to ignore what it reveals about infidelity and paternity.

"There are still very few reliable figures on paternal discrepancy and consequently inadequate thought given to how to deal with it.”

 

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[Dr. Howard]

Totally believable. Ancestry.com is also providing a wake up call for a lot of people doing family tree research. My wife and her cousin are working on it and her family doesn't exactly come from a high society background. So far people taking those DNA tests has unearthed 2 cases where the child in a marriage was not the offspring of the husband and another secret out of wedlock adoption. These instances were all from about 1940 to 1970 and were total secrets until now. So don't be all "NAWALT in the good ol days"

And before you freak out, don't worry, I have had my own children paternity tested many years ago.

 

[Goni]

The % should be higher.

In another study it was stated that around 30% of the DNA tests discovered that the children of the "families" in England ( of those tested) did not belong to the man of the house, in other words , cheating.

 

[Horus]

The % should be higher.

In another study it was stated that around 30% of the DNA tests discovered that the children of the "families" in England ( of those tested) did not belong to the man of the house, in other words , cheating.

Keep in mind that this number will be skewed, because men who have reason suspect they are not the real father are more likely to get a DNA test.

 

[eradicator]

I’m guessing it’s at least 20%

 

[Barron]

Anytime a woman argues against children taking their father's last name, one need only remind them of this statistic.

Women are the gate keepers of sex. Thus they are the only ones who know beyond any doubt who the father is.

Since a man can never be 100% sure that a child is truly his, all he really has to pass on in this world is his name. And they're trying to take that too.

Steer clear of women with hyphenated last names, they show their true colors.

 

[Dr. Howard]

Even more interesting is that, given that there is now a large database of the DNA of the women who have cucked these men, is there a common "slut gene" that is shared among them?

 

[Silver_Tube]

That would be the x chromosome

 

[CaptainS]

Women are the gate keepers of sex. Thus they are the only ones who know beyond any doubt who the father is.

Unless there are so many other men that she doesn't have a clue.

I think every man should do a mail in test kit on the kid within days of birth. If there's a problem, have an official one done by the court, then weigh your options. If you wait too long and you've acted as the kid's father, the courts might still make you pay support even if it isn't yours.

 

[Windom Earle]

Somewhat of a dupe thread.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-72020.html

 

[scorpion]

As I have said before: paternity fraud is a worse crime than rape. With the act of rape, a man takes control of a woman's body for a few minutes and uses it for his own selfish purposes. The man essentially robs the woman of her sexual agency and inflicts his own sexual agency upon her through force. Once the act is concluded, the woman is left to deal with the emotional trauma of having suffered this indignity against her person.

With the act of paternity fraud, a woman takes control of a man's body and his emotional state by deliberately misleading him into assuming the role of the father. The man expends an extremely high level of time and energy performing the role of the father, investing years of his life, a substantial amount of his income and makes a high emotional investment in the child. By making such a profound and intensive investment of time and resources in the child, the man necessarily loses the opportunity to sire and raise an actual child of his own. In this regard, not only does paternity fraud rob a man of years of his life and huge amounts of money while inflicting a grievous emotional wound, it most cases also literally robs him of the chance to have a child of his own.

This is why paternity fraud is worse than rape, in every instance. Even in the worst example of rape you can think of, which would be a random, violent assault that resulted in pregnancy and the woman giving birth to her rapist's child, she is still not denied the right to reproduce! Yes - in such in instance she would suffer loss of agency and significant emotional trauma, which should not be minimized for her personally, but from the macro perspective her genetic line would still continue. But the man who is a victim of paternity fraud can see his genetic line wiped out entirely. It is perhaps the cruelest act one human could perpetrate on another, especially since in most cases it is an act perpetrated by a wife on her husband. The man is betrayed in the most malicious fashion by the person closest to him. It is an act of pure evil, and represents the height of female wickedness and destruction.

 

[Donfitz007]

I would say it’s closer to 30%. With 45-50% of women NOT knowing who the father is but hoping it’s the main guy.

 

[Dr. Howard]

I would say it’s closer to 30%. With 45-50% of women NOT knowing who the father is but hoping it’s the main guy.

^ Well done for your 666th post. Rates that high mean that you are most certainly living in Babylon, Las Vegas or Florida State University.

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

I’m guessing it’s at least 20%

A long time ago, the Heartiste blog cited the 20 percent number and I'm pretty sure he backed it up with stats. But of course, Heartiste is gone now. See how this is all works?

 

[N°6]

It has just turned 1 June and this forum has abolished fornication for sex accredited by priestcraft or lawyer wizardry.

This thread is a sober reminder of the risks involved with legitimate sexual congress.