British Politics Thread

IronShark

 
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The number of ROK readers in Britain is very large and I think we need a separate thread for British Politics.

I understand there's already a thread for Brexit. But this thread is going to cover all issues in British politics including Brexit.

Our fellow Brit readers' contribution would be highly appreciated.

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IronShark

 
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Owen Jones, a gay Marxist working for the lefty Guardian interviewed former LibDem leader Nick Clegg.

If Cuckoldry in Britain had a name, it should be called Nick Clegg.

 

roberto

Pelican
Gold Member
Owen Jones is an exceptionally strong contender for 'most punchable face ever'. There's just something about that cunt that brings out a bloodthirsty, murderous streak in me.
 

Ember

Ostrich
Other Christian
Gold Member
It's an interesting time for British politics with Labour being dead in the water. Teresa May must know that if she sells out on Brexit there is little to stop UKIP taking a huge slice of the vote at the next GE. It could force a coalition.

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H1N1

Ostrich
Gold Member
May talking a good game this afternoon. She has said no single market which is good, and most importantly, been clear that no trade deal is still better than a bad trade deal for Britain. She's still not shaking these kleptocrats by the collar as much as I'd like, but this is a start.

Personally I think we should be taking a much tougher line in the negotiations. I would like to see the squeeze being put on the Brussles negotiators.

I've been randomly compiling the following over the past year or so. Where numbers appear, I've tried to get them from the ONS, Open Europe, or Tax Payers Alliance - none of which took up a position on the referendum.


The important thing to remember with this negotiation is that, should we fail to strike a trade deal, we *and* the EU would be subject to WTO tariffs. Alarmists bleat about these, but they are (mainly) tiny and ever decreasing.

If we continue to to sell the same exports to the EU after leaving as we do now, then each side will pay tariffs to the other. Since there is a NET £62billion trade deficit with the EU, and rapidly rising, we gain several billion pounds from these tariffs, even if the 'average' 2.4% tariff were applied across the board. Interestingly, and relevantly, the areas where the deficit is highest also have the greatest tariffs. EG, the EU sells us £20billion more per annum in vehicles than we sell them. Tariffs here are 10%, so a net £2bn gain. On food, booze and fags, the average tariff is 20% and the EU sells £17bn more to us per year than we do to them. From these two sectors alone thats a £5.4bn tariff gain for the UK.

Obviously the £ has lost against the euro quite significantly over the past year or so. This should be a good thing. A modest devaluation helps choke off imports and stimulate exports, which should lead to the sort of recovery we saw when we left the ERM. Right now our soaring deficit is unsustainable and a real threat to our economy.

The WTO's General Agreement on Trade in Services has a principle of non-discrimination, as with goods, and this accounts for 40% of our exports (House of Commons Library briefing paper No 06091), so the EU couldn't actually single us out on this anyway.

Without our £10.6bn net contribution, and £3bn from fisheries and £5bn buying their Common Agricultural Policy produce at inflated prices, the EU would have to make huge cuts to their staff and budgets. Hardly a strong position to make threats from.

Staying in is also disadvantageous for protecting our financial services contribution to the economy (the EU HATE our dominance in this sector). The EU is already threatening 'Robin Hood' taxes to steal them away, and you can be sure if we had stayed in these would have been pushed through anyway. This is the one area where we currently have a trade surplus.

Since 1999 our sales to the EU have gone from about £8.5bn to £11bn, whilst theirs have gone from about £13bn to £33bn in the same period (deficit from about £5bn to £20bn).
Since 1999 our sales to the rest of the world have gone from about £2.5bn to about £18bn and the RoW sales to the UK from under £2bn to c. £4bn (surplus gone from about £0.5bn to about £16bn).
 

IronShark

 
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H1N1 said:
May talking a good game this afternoon. She has said no single market which is good, and most importantly, been clear that no trade deal is still better than a bad trade deal for Britain. She's still not shaking these kleptocrats by the collar as much as I'd like, but this is a start.

Personally I think we should be taking a much tougher line in the negotiations. I would like to see the squeeze being put on the Brussles negotiators.

I've been randomly compiling the following over the past year or so. Where numbers appear, I've tried to get them from the ONS, Open Europe, or Tax Payers Alliance - none of which took up a position on the referendum.


The important thing to remember with this negotiation is that, should we fail to strike a trade deal, we *and* the EU would be subject to WTO tariffs. Alarmists bleat about these, but they are (mainly) tiny and ever decreasing.

If we continue to to sell the same exports to the EU after leaving as we do now, then each side will pay tariffs to the other. Since there is a NET £62billion trade deficit with the EU, and rapidly rising, we gain several billion pounds from these tariffs, even if the 'average' 2.4% tariff were applied across the board. Interestingly, and relevantly, the areas where the deficit is highest also have the greatest tariffs. EG, the EU sells us £20billion more per annum in vehicles than we sell them. Tariffs here are 10%, so a net £2bn gain. On food, booze and fags, the average tariff is 20% and the EU sells £17bn more to us per year than we do to them. From these two sectors alone thats a £5.4bn tariff gain for the UK.

Obviously the £ has lost against the euro quite significantly over the past year or so. This should be a good thing. A modest devaluation helps choke off imports and stimulate exports, which should lead to the sort of recovery we saw when we left the ERM. Right now our soaring deficit is unsustainable and a real threat to our economy.

The WTO's General Agreement on Trade in Services has a principle of non-discrimination, as with goods, and this accounts for 40% of our exports (House of Commons Library briefing paper No 06091), so the EU couldn't actually single us out on this anyway.

Without our £10.6bn net contribution, and £3bn from fisheries and £5bn buying their Common Agricultural Policy produce at inflated prices, the EU would have to make huge cuts to their staff and budgets. Hardly a strong position to make threats from.

Staying in is also disadvantageous for protecting our financial services contribution to the economy (the EU HATE our dominance in this sector). The EU is already threatening 'Robin Hood' taxes to steal them away, and you can be sure if we had stayed in these would have been pushed through anyway. This is the one area where we currently have a trade surplus.

Since 1999 our sales to the EU have gone from about £8.5bn to £11bn, whilst theirs have gone from about £13bn to £33bn in the same period (deficit from about £5bn to £20bn).
Since 1999 our sales to the rest of the world have gone from about £2.5bn to about £18bn and the RoW sales to the UK from under £2bn to c. £4bn (surplus gone from about £0.5bn to about £16bn).

Good points. For people are looking for May speech here is the link:


But like most Cuckservative politicians, she looks tough on words and has no actions. She has a terrible record when she was our Home Secretary and she was actually one of the Tory MPs who was in the Remain camp.

If you have time you can look at Nigel Farage Reacts To May's Big Brexit Speech: In Full

The full show is here:

 

britchard

Pelican
^ Not a single man in any of those pictures. I have no idea why anyone in the UK would protest against any US President, the only possible effect it could possibly have would be going to war alongside the US, in which case it wouldn't affect the women anyway.

You should also note that there was no women's march when a 14 year old girl was raped by a Syrian migrant in Newcastle.
 

mh1985

Chicken
Saw a bunch of these as I was getting on the tube, group of lads behind got on and were calling out "big up brexit crew!" "Fuck lefties!" was highly amusing. 10/10 irl trolling
 

IronShark

 
Banned
Millennial Woes, a Scottish vlogger who was doxxed by the tolerant left breaks his silence to analyse recent events



He's clearly leading a battle against the fake news:

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Foolsgo1d

Peacock
Watching the roll-call of quislings, liars and double speak screaming about how they triumphed over the so-called tyranny of the Government, which had given a vote and was acting on it...by the British people.

Following the will of over half the people who voted is now classed as tyranny if it upsets the globalists plans.

They even have the nerve the call Parliament "sovereign" and squark on about how elected officials must have a say in the matter. Where were these fools and traitors when Brussels came calling for more powers to lord it over us?

Did we get a vote on what powers they could have? No. Did the MPs? Why of course! But they did so in private and only years down the line we only realised what they did and by then it was too late.

Here is a link from the Guardian :)laugh:)
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...exit-keep-parliament-sovereign-wont-be-gagged

A choice quote;
Not giving parliament the chance, before article 50 is invoked, to say where it thinks these negotiations should end up is, at its core, undemocratic, unconstitutional and likely to exacerbate the divisions in our society to which the referendum gave rise. It also ignores the views of nearly half the people who voted in the referendum, who were perfectly content with our place in the EU.

Ignoring them, even though they were (just) in the minority, is not merely divisive but plain wrong.


Meanwhile in the USA Trump has just begun his path to where it will lead the US down.

And I am here like. A republic has a better democratic process than the old guard.

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