Butt becoming America's preference (NY Times)

TravelerKai

Peacock
Gold Member
POASTER said:
This has been long coming.

The breakthrough pioneer was Sir Mix A Lot's magum opus "Baby Got Back" of course. To this day whenever I am on a dancefloor and this song gets played - and it always does - all the girls go wild, start grinding hard and singing along.

Twenty years of hip-hop culture permeating American society has taught us all the glories of DAT ASS. I welcome this trend. This is yet another example of African-American culture spilling over to White-American culture.

I think another reason is that naturally big boobs are just rare. Asses are more abundant, easier to achieve, and more enduring. That's why most of my guy friends say the same thing - ass is necessary and breasts are like the icing on the cake but not as necessary. What other choice is there?

Legs have been overshadowed in America which is unfortunate. I was never a big legs guy until I went to Europe, which forever traumatized me. Now I cannot be attracted to short girls anymore, like I used to be. Seeing so many long-legged girls over there forever altered my tastes.

So a lot of this stuff is just the effect of what you’re exposed to. Same with race. When I grew up in a really White neighborhood, those were the only girls I liked. Then I lived and worked in a Latina area and guess what? I developed a Latina fetish.

This trend just highlights how easily humans are influenced by environment and media, even when they think they are strong-willed.

Is that a good thing? Does not look like it to me. Our Black American dysfunction spilling over into the greater population, all for what? Excess fat is not healthy or cool. Think of the stress excess weight puts on women's bodies. They are already petite. They have less dense bones than us. They cannot heft around that junk like we can. It even helps ruin their ovaries with cysts and floods their systems with more estrogen than necessary. Women by default store fat in the ass, pelvic, and tricep areas naturally. Processed carbs and sugars make it worse because the brain sends instructions to body to store this excess energy in those exact same areas, merely compounding the problem.

Yeah it feels fucking good letting a woman with a fat ass smash up and down. You'll bust a nut fast. But putting their asses on a pedestal feeds their hamsters. Ass worship is beta and is a kind of male hamster. We slam fat bitches all the time but worship their fat asses. A lizard that needs a paper bag on her face, gets the ok because "dat ass doe"?

Big breasts are rare because they are a natural occurrence that varies greatly in size regardless of BMI, within certain weight numbers. Asses are easy to achieve because it is lazy in nature to acquire one. Fat women cry all the fucking time when they lose weight and all of it happens in the breasts and not their fucking stomachs. You cannot fool the human body. It will burn up the easy fat first. Always.

If men are drunk or high enough, we would fuck damn near anything. I get that. We are all capable of slamming a slumpbuster when desperate. What we probably should be more careful about is not putting this dysfunction on a pedestal publicly. It undermines practically everything we stand for as redpill males. Black men need to start weening themselves off fat assed women. Other redpill men are doing their part, shunning ridiculous women and other fat women. We should start doing our part as well.
 

Days of Broken Arrows

Crow
Gold Member
POASTER said:
This has been long coming.

The breakthrough pioneer was Sir Mix A Lot's magum opus "Baby Got Back" of course. To this day whenever I am on a dancefloor and this song gets played - and it always does - all the girls go wild, start grinding hard and singing along.

Twenty years of hip-hop culture permeating American society has taught us all the glories of DAT ASS. I welcome this trend. This is yet another example of African-American culture spilling over to White-American culture.

......

This trend just highlights how easily humans are influenced by environment and media, even when they think they are strong-willed.

I'm old enough to remember when Sir Mix-A-Lot hit with "Baby's Got Back" in the spring of 1992.

I agree hip hop culture has influenced all of this. But there is a major difference between then and now.

Back then, "Baby's Got Back" was considered a quirky song about outliers. It was almost a novelty. And by "outliers," I mean the few women who had huge butts and the men who liked them. It was mostly "a black thing" -- as the old saying went -- but not even representative of the entire black community. The hottest black women back then -- like Vanessa Williams and Lisa Bonet -- weren't flaunting their butts.

Today, it's women singing or rapping about themselves with songs like Jennifer Lopez's "Booty" and Mindy what's-her-name's "All About That Bass" -- not men admiring those women. So it's morphed into a first-person form of self-love, especially since the songs are built around videos designed to go viral.*

Women can't really do this with breasts, because they're too sexual, or with legs, because that's too subtle. But butts give them the perfect excuse to celebrate themselves without shame. Not a good thing, IMO. And now we have the the New York Times calling it the new normal.

So, the big butt trend has gone from being a quirky thing we could smile at to being women justifying their own narcissism and (let's admit it) obesity. And recasting that as sexy. I like some of it too, but a little goes a long way.

And while that's not necessarily bad, what comes next will be what happened when gay culture went mainstream or when trans culture moved itself to the center. First came the calls for acceptance, then it became "accept it or else."

We've already got the fat acceptance movement and women whining trying to make themselves immune to criticism by crying "body shaming!" constantly. This is more ammo for them.

Choosing to like big butts is one thing, but the way American trends go we're not going to be allowed to have a choice pretty soon.

* As far as I can tell, this kind of self-absorption has no precedent in pop music. The Beatles had long hair, but didn't sing about it. Elvis shook his hips, but his songs weren't about that. Hell, even Madonna, queen of narcissism, sang songs directed at others, not herself.

A society in which women sing songs of self-love, IMO, is in a dire place and is going to create little monsters of its girls. As Roissy once wrote, the problem with women is too much self-esteem. Thank God I came of age in an earlier era. I can't believe I ever complained about Mariah or Alanis.
 

AnonymousBosch

 
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Days of Broken Arrows said:
* As far as I can tell, this kind of self-absorption has no precedent in pop music. The Beatles had long hair, but didn't sing about it. Elvis shook his hips, but his songs weren't about that. Hell, even Madonna, queen of narcissism, sang songs directed at others, not herself.

A society in which women sing songs of self-love, IMO, is in a dire place and is going to create little monsters of its girls. As Roissy once wrote, the problem with women is too much self-esteem. Thank God I came of age in an earlier era. I can't believe I ever complained about Mariah or Alanis.

I think all of these self-esteem anthems are a sign at how desperately unhappy the average modern woman is. Whatever they've been doing to build little girl's self esteem by telling them they can be anything since I was in school 30 years ago obviously isn't working, (and trust me, there was just as much handwringing about the tendency of women to be lazy, uncurious and mediocre intimidated out of following their dreams by evil men even back then).

Hell, my sister had an Astronaut Barbie in the 70's, (first manufactured in 1965).
 

POASTER

 
Banned
Allow me to clarify that what I "welcome" is what Basil described - fit athletic girls with toned bubble butts, not obese girls who happen to have big butts.

I agree that this could be misappropriated by feminazis.
 

michelin

Pelican
Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
How is this "hope for America?"

Any article showing a woman in the gym giving the example how to work out their body gives some hope. Not much, agreed, but some. Just like fat shaming, it might create some awareness among females that a change is needed.
 

felix_vagabondo

 
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I have a firm grasp of the city I want. It should contain these seven qualities:

[...]7. White girls with big butts.

-Roosh V
November 20, 2013


Papa Roosh got Red Pilled and discovered that liking female butts plays into the globohomo agenda. Be careful, boys! I myself am willing to live dangerously... one more vote for team butt man. The anus itself is of no interest. It's all about the huge cheeks.
 

MrLemon

 
Banned
TravelerKai said:
People can fuss and fight over asses and titties all they want. Nothing and I mean nothing beats a fresh faced, non-fat, 7-10 girl that is 18-24 years old. All this artificial ass junk is like what Kosko said earlier this week about all this corn, hormone laden milk, and processed food junk girls eat these days creating this stuff. It might drive your lust factor up, it gets rises out of me sometimes even, but nothing beats a face on top of peak fertility. Guys that focus on 1 thing to the point of obsession are robbing themselves of something more special and unknowingly handicaps their own inner game.

I'd set it at 18-20, but otherwise agree completely. Youth is everything.

I saw a girl the other day with no tits at all, but hey, she was 18 and skin as soft as a ripe peach. instant boner.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
In hindsight this isn’t a great thing. The obsession with asses is yet another symptom of degenerate thought and behavior
 
Everyone is always engaging in or entranced by some sort of degeneracy. The real issue is whether they recognize it in themselves and channel the energy devoted to it into something positive.
 

VNvet

Kingfisher
Ass vs tits is a dumb argument. Artificially big asses and big tits are both degenerate.

It's all about waist to hip ratio + normal ass and tits. It's literally the only metric that matters.
 

081287

Sparrow
I agree with VNvet above. Attractive waist to hip ratio with normal tits and ass for me everytime over huge tits or ass. If I'm going to fuck a girl she also has to have a pretty face. I want to look at her when I'm about to bust, and I want to really like what I see.

My most recent bang asked me while we were laying in bed after sex if I was a tits or ass man.

"I'm a pussy man," I replied.
 

felix_vagabondo

 
Banned
081287 said:
I agree with VNvet above. Attractive waist to hip ratio with normal tits and ass [...]

W/H ratio 4TW. That's why in the ass-tits debate (which is mostly a joke) I declare myself "an ass man." What I really mean is that I'm a 0.75 waist:hip ratio man, as are most men in all cultures, because the preference for birthing hips and vacant wombs is coded into our basic operating system as human males. Something about that magical ratio that never ceases to entertain.
 
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