Call for a proper ban of Christian McQueen
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rocksteady
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I really liked cmq for a while. His podcast was good and I enjoyed his blog. I ended up buying his book, alpha playbook, or whatever it was called, and the whole time I was reading it, all I could think was, "I paid money for this?" Bunch of rambling and almost no game advice. Wasn't too mad since sometimes you get burned, but I stopped following him after that. Deff a shady character.
JWLZG said:
...so...Christian...is not his Christian name?
In fact, in honor of this thread--and my above-reference Cutlass Supreme ride with Mechanico--I actually cracked open this pretentious, and decidedly not domestic, pussy beer.
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Down with McQueen and down with race trolling (20% warning for civpro).
Long live the forum and long live Mechanico. You filthy animal: you may troll from time to time, but your heart is pure (no homo). This one's for you.
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Down with McQueen and down with race trolling (20% warning for civpro).
Long live the forum and long live Mechanico. You filthy animal: you may troll from time to time, but your heart is pure (no homo). This one's for you.
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I don't really see the point of banning him officially? He isn't coming back, has his own site(I haven't actually checked it out), but when he was here, he did provide some value as a poster, and he didn't make a secret of being an internet marketer and writing ebooks.
He helped some of his clients get laid, one of the members here, chef I think, or maybe the_chef, was one of his more successful clients, I met him at one of the rvf meetups maybe a year and a half ago, who had hired mcqueen as a dating coach, and got good results.
On a funny side note, all of the possibly related threads at the bottom of the page are about slutty christian women.
He helped some of his clients get laid, one of the members here, chef I think, or maybe the_chef, was one of his more successful clients, I met him at one of the rvf meetups maybe a year and a half ago, who had hired mcqueen as a dating coach, and got good results.
On a funny side note, all of the possibly related threads at the bottom of the page are about slutty christian women.
Dagonet
Woodpecker
We all know who the real star of the podcast was 
I'd really prefer to stay out of this discussion, but a bunch of people have asked my opinion and I think my silence would be construed as a statement anyway. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle here. McQueen and I were close friends for a while, had some good times out in Hollywood and Vegas, and I do think we had a good collaboration on the podcast. He has helped a lot of guys, but also left a bad taste in some people's mouths (no pun intended). He is a hustler, in the sense that his main focus is to make money and build his business. That isn't inherently an evil thing, but as one of the guys who's been around the "Manosphere" for a while I think it places him on the fringes of it. I admire his work ethic, but there are times when he takes it too far personality-wise. That's just who he is, for better or worse. I don't think he ever has the intention of scamming or harming people. He tries to deliver value, whether you personally appreciate his style or not. There have definitely been incidents that upset people with him, and I don't blame them. McQueen probably doesn't either. But that is more related to his personality than anything else. I left LA this year and we don't keep in touch, but I wish him well. And again, I'm not trying to really get into a debate here about him or be his defender. Just offering my two cents. But I never got involved with his business, so I can only speak from the partial picture I saw of him.
I'd really prefer to stay out of this discussion, but a bunch of people have asked my opinion and I think my silence would be construed as a statement anyway. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle here. McQueen and I were close friends for a while, had some good times out in Hollywood and Vegas, and I do think we had a good collaboration on the podcast. He has helped a lot of guys, but also left a bad taste in some people's mouths (no pun intended). He is a hustler, in the sense that his main focus is to make money and build his business. That isn't inherently an evil thing, but as one of the guys who's been around the "Manosphere" for a while I think it places him on the fringes of it. I admire his work ethic, but there are times when he takes it too far personality-wise. That's just who he is, for better or worse. I don't think he ever has the intention of scamming or harming people. He tries to deliver value, whether you personally appreciate his style or not. There have definitely been incidents that upset people with him, and I don't blame them. McQueen probably doesn't either. But that is more related to his personality than anything else. I left LA this year and we don't keep in touch, but I wish him well. And again, I'm not trying to really get into a debate here about him or be his defender. Just offering my two cents. But I never got involved with his business, so I can only speak from the partial picture I saw of him.
Dagonet said:We all know who the real star of the podcast was
I'd really prefer to stay out of this discussion, but a bunch of people have asked my opinion and I think my silence would be construed as a statement anyway. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle here. McQueen and I were close friends for a while, had some good times out in Hollywood and Vegas, and I do think we had a good collaboration on the podcast. He has helped a lot of guys, but also left a bad taste in some people's mouths (no pun intended). He is a hustler, in the sense that his main focus is to make money and build his business. That isn't inherently an evil thing, but as one of the guys who's been around the "Manosphere" for a while I think it places him on the fringes of it. I admire his work ethic, but there are times when he takes it too far personality-wise. That's just who he is, for better or worse. I don't think he ever has the intention of scamming or harming people. He tries to deliver value, whether you personally appreciate his style or not. There have definitely been incidents that upset people with him, and I don't blame them. McQueen probably doesn't either. But that is more related to his personality than anything else. I left LA this year and we don't keep in touch, but I wish him well. And again, I'm not trying to really get into a debate here about him or be his defender. Just offering my two cents.
Alls I know is that 20 minutes of every episode of that podcast was McQueen laughing at his own jokes--which were objectively not funny. You can't say it publicly, but you had some real potential as a broadcaster but were stuck behind the. The "dynamic" where he was supposedly the big brother and you were the little brother was not only affected, it was obnoxious and detracted from the diminishing quality of the content. You were clearly more talented of the duo, and I would bet a lot of money your creative input was squashed in favor of his "personality"--which was a dude who repeated jokes from movies and then laughed at them. It's the kind of dude I made entire crowds laugh at until they tried to fight from the humiliation of being outshined.
Call me a hater, but I feel like I have some credibility on this matter.
Having never met the guy personally, I have seen video of him acting like a crazy person in the club... and heard stories (in person) from three guys who have hung out with the him on separate occasions. I'd just prefer not to associate myself with liars, manipulators, drug addicts, or other american gypsy types. Calling him a "hustler" is too kind.
I'll add mine too. My interactions with Mcqueen have been very positive. I had actually signed up for the Vegas Hangover experience at a whim. I realized later that finances were not exactly great and later fell on some even more tough times and couldn't pay for it anymore. He has a "no refund" policy.
However, he still decided to refund me. I know people are butt hurt by some things he's done but I don't believe he's a scammer.
However, he still decided to refund me. I know people are butt hurt by some things he's done but I don't believe he's a scammer.
Tuthmosis said:
It's funny, I called him out on this a few days ago. He has been infecting the forum for a little while. Maybe not relevant to this very thread but hey, a race troll is a race troll in every thread he posts in.
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-52196-post-1168045.html#pid1168045
The timing of this thread is a bit suspect.
Why now? Why not when he was still around?
Why now? Why not when he was still around?
McQueen has got his own forum which is similar to this one. Fun fact is, everytime you mention rooshv or this forum it will get deleted or blocked. Also a lot of his members are banned rvf members. He‘s got Soup as his moderator. I think CMQ has got some great stuff too. However the reason why I'm not visiting his place anymore is because of all his annoying PMs about all his new products. I know he is trying to make a living out of this which is okay since he is helping some guys out. After all aren't almost all manospher bloggers in this for the cash...
It is weird how it's like a clone of this forum over there.
This is pure speculation. You're starting drama, like usual, because you think a new member will read an old post of his, not do any homework whatsoever, and then get scammed out of hundreds or thousands of dollars? At least trot out one newb victim who was scammed by him after hearing about him first in the forum during the past year while he was inactive.
I'm sure you have some ulterior motives besides concern for newbies, whom you have shown absolutely no concern for in the past. Suddenly you care deeply about the newb?
So no, he won't be banned because of this suddenly manufactured outraged, because him not being banned is not threatening any member.
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