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<blockquote data-quote="Cartographer" data-source="post: 1507111" data-attributes="member: 7611">I can try to take on a ton of responsibility through my church or at my job. I could develop a skill or master an art. Maybe I can even become a monk. But there will always be a permanent difference in maturity between me and a married man. If the guy has kids, forget about it. He can be a woke, irresponsible idiot and I&#039;ll still be missing something that he has. Some kinds of experiences change you in ways that don&#039;t have substitutes. Combat, fame, leadership, wealth, poverty all leave their mark but being a married man and father is probably the most significant in terms of its effect on maturity.Taking the church life seriously is a really important, and for me, its been a rough first step. It seems like if you&#039;re faithful in that, and maybe some other challenges God gives you (or whacks you in the side of the head with), I&#039;d be surprised if you weren&#039;t trusted with a wife sooner rather than later. Although by that time you might not be feeling so froggy about it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cartographer, post: 1507111, member: 7611"] I can try to take on a ton of responsibility through my church or at my job. I could develop a skill or master an art. Maybe I can even become a monk. But there will always be a permanent difference in maturity between me and a married man. If the guy has kids, forget about it. He can be a woke, irresponsible idiot and I'll still be missing something that he has. Some kinds of experiences change you in ways that don't have substitutes. Combat, fame, leadership, wealth, poverty all leave their mark but being a married man and father is probably the most significant in terms of its effect on maturity. Taking the church life seriously is a really important, and for me, its been a rough first step. It seems like if you're faithful in that, and maybe some other challenges God gives you (or whacks you in the side of the head with), I'd be surprised if you weren't trusted with a wife sooner rather than later. Although by that time you might not be feeling so froggy about it. [/QUOTE]

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