Can You Be Friends with Leftists?

Virginiahousewife

Sparrow
Woman
Can we people of Gods word and truth in good conscience be friends with leftists?

I don’t have a ton of friends and most of the few I do have are woefully leftist to varying degrees. Unsurprisingly they are poster girls for the failings of leftist ideologies. Aside from politics though we do have other things in common and things we enjoy doing/ discussing, although it’s getting more difficult to focus on those things. Not sure why these are the people I’ve attracted. I’ve been focusing the past couple of years on fostering new friendships within my religious community with other moms.

For many years I have maintained relationships by pretty much staying silent on political topics, to the point where only recently have some of those close to me been shocked to discover my right leanings. Since the election, and as political tensions continue to rise, I am beginning to more strongly feel the need to cut off communication with extreme leftist family and friends. Or at the very least distance myself considerably.

How are you handling the left in your life?
 

dragonfire00

Sparrow
Woman
What do you define as a Leftist? A US Democrat, Marxist, someone with liberal views? I find the politically left friends/family members that I've known for many years, they are only so because of their environment and I think/hope they will come around. They don't agree with identity politics but are more classical liberals since their family/boyfriends are and are quite impressionable people and are Christian as well...They find the Covid19 nonsense as overblown BS but they haven't turned to the idea of what is really going on quite yet. If you find yourself not able to be yourself in front of them in fear of controversy you might want to slowly fade out though. It's no fun to feel like you're limiting who you are in fear of "offending" especially if they bring things up and expect you to be silent.

My family just moved and I do think going forward that I have no desire to have Leftists/Neoliberals in my life at this point, especially the ones who are living in irrational fear of Covid. You can't trust them to have your back, so no point in building a community with them.
 

Luna Novem

Woodpecker
Woman
In my experience, I cannot. With family, it depends. I have a leftist brother who is extremely obnoxious. He was en route to disowning me over my views. On the other hand, I have a leftist aunt who is truly sweet and non-judgmental.

With friends, however, since you don't even have the basis of that blood bond... I just find that they want to argue their nonsense all the time. I don't mind people who are outspoken. I don't mind arguing/debating. But there MUST be an underlying logical nature. All the leftists I've known (who attempt to debate me) are just plain stupid. I can't argue with their emotional hyperbole. It gets pointless really quickly.
 

Virginiahousewife

Sparrow
Woman
What do you define as a Leftist? A US Democrat, Marxist, someone with liberal views? I find the politically left friends/family members that I've known for many years, they are only so because of their environment and I think/hope they will come around. They don't agree with identity politics but are more classical liberals since their family/boyfriends are and are quite impressionable people and are Christian as well...They find the Covid19 nonsense as overblown BS but they haven't turned to the idea of what is really going on quite yet.
I find the average run of the mill US dems are becoming more Marxist by the minute in my area. Consider yourself blessed to know people who aren’t so far gone. Most leftists I know are playing Olympic level mental gymnastics trying to keep up with their hypocrisy. They will suffer a mental breakdown before accepting a rational idea. Sadly even many conservatives I know are deep into the coof hysteria.
 

DanielH

Pelican
I am friendly with my leftist neighbors, they're very friendly and neighborly, and I am the same towards them. However I would never talk politics with them as they watch MSM and there's too much at risk under our current Stasi system. I do nothing illegal and do not advocate violence but why would I tell them things like if I hypothetically had firearms when those may be banned federally within the next few years?

My dad had leftist friends and several backstabbed him, one was his former divorce attorney, neighbor, and close friend, and he even said my dad was mentally ill for supporting Trump. Keep in mind with red flag laws, that can get your house swatted - an accusation like that from a friend. That's how I convinced my dad red flag laws were bad actually.

So no don't be friends with leftists. Best case scenario is they subconsciously get you to live a less Christian lifestyle.

Edit: My friend married a leftist and now his life is torture. He's not even allowed out half the time to hang out because his wife was scared of getting covid (she got sick and tested positive yesterday and me and my friend still haven't).
 
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dragonfire00

Sparrow
Woman
I find the average run of the mill US dems are becoming more Marxist by the minute in my area. Consider yourself blessed to know people who aren’t so far gone. Most leftists I know are playing Olympic level mental gymnastics trying to keep up with their hypocrisy. They will suffer a mental breakdown before accepting a rational idea. Sadly even many conservatives I know are deep into the coof hysteria.
We moved somewhat recently to a more purple/conservative place after living somewhere SUPER liberal. It is a super degenerate city on the West Coast that I'm sure you'd laugh at if I told you where it was lol. So there you have people who are quiet (me), people who are moderate but Democrat and go with what is trendy right now but when you talk to them they quietly agree with most things (which is cringy but when family or people I've known for years or neighbors I think its worth it to maintain a friendship), and everyone else is what you describe. Thankfully I don't have to deal with that anymore but for people who live in those areas it's really hard to find likeminded people as they're too afraid to be honest.

My family live there so it was hard leaving them but they're looking into moving now as well. I think maybe this is a blessing so we find likeminded communities, the funny thing about the Left is that it's a circular firing squad so you'll never be quite woke enough and they're changing their views on a daily basis so good luck to those communities!

Also, I'd worry about the conservatives into the hysteria too. Anyone who lives in this irrational fear can report you later.
 
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Amwolf

Robin
Woman
However I would never talk politics with them as they watch MSM and there's too much at risk under our current Stasi system.

My dad had leftist friends and several backstabbed him, one was his former divorce attorney, neighbor, and close friend, and he even said my dad was mentally ill for supporting Trump.
You have the right mindset. Over the last five years, I’ve been reported to local law enforcement by several of those close to me – from parents to romantic partners, for my non-mainstream ideological beliefs. All these reports were escalated to FBI Guardian files and lengthy “National Security” investigations. My rights have been severely curtailed. Trust me from firsthand experience, never, ever speak about controversial ideological matters to anyone other than like-minded Dissidents whom you’d trust with your life. Someone close to me, whom I trusted, was grilled for hours by LE and never said a word. The aforementioned example is the type of person you want in your life.

I can relate to your dad’s experience with the leftist divorce attorney. A few years back, I found myself in a nasty feud with several of people where one of them, a woman, was used as a pawn to hurt my reputation. She filed for a Protection Order and hired the top family law firm in the city to represent her. This attorney was the former DA of this trendy, mid-sized city where the hearing would take place. I hired a local attorney who turned out to be a liberal and did little to help me. The issue pertained to my politically heated texts to her, which were very pro-traditionalism and anti-modernism. After she declined to settle the matter in pre-trial, her request for a permanent injunction was moved to a hearing. During an all-day affair, I was hammered by her counsel for being anti-abortion, anti-LGBT, and anti-feminism. Meanwhile her counsel asked her on the stand whether she was a feminist and she proudly replied with “yes”. At the end of the hearing, the sitting judge said that my views were “disturbing” and have "no place" in our society. My attorney was surprised by the outcome but appeared to be supportive of their opinions rather than mine.

I’ll never work with a non-Christian attorney again.
 
Can you be friends with an "invade the world, invite the world' , 'muh free market' conservative? A "Christian" ZIonist (I use scare quotes because it's a heresy) ?
I have lost several leftist friends this year because a real divide emerged. It's no longer the best way to provide health care (free market or government? ) type issues, it's a fundamental divide. Leftists are finally admitting what they mocked conservatives for accusing them of - that they hate this country, the west, Christianity, our history and even our ethnicity.

That said, many of them are afraid and many of them are internally at least red pilled. Many just don't have the right information.

I think it is important to have some genuine friends who have differing views than you - not all friends or a your 'tribe' because then you're constantly challenged - for example if you don't drink not the best idea to hang around a group that revolves around wine tastings.

I do have a couple of close friends who are open minded, who are leftists but who still believe the free exchange of ideas. Few do, left or increasingly 'right', to me that's more important than where they currently fall on the political spectrum.
 

Elipe

Kingfisher
How are you handling the left in your life?
With a metaphorical hazmat suit. At work, keep it professional. Off-duty, keep it strictly about activities. When they start bringing up political topics, I create the impression that I'm too busy to keep up with the conversation.

It does also help that people generally make the mistaken assumption that because of certain aspects of my personal characteristics, I must be a leftist. It sort of gives me a first strike advantage in figuring out who I can and can't trust.
 

InvisibleMe

Pigeon
I am, but I find it hard. Most of them are old friends who turned rabidly to the left we almost never discuss the news or current events because of previous times where we just argued about it constantly. As for the girls...the far leftist indicates some undesirable personalities traits imo.

Virtue signaling is about building your own ego essentially, someone that is involved in that continuously might not be able to get on well with me as I don't walk around with a chip on my shoulder.
 

Lamkins

Woodpecker
Woman
I have family that are lefties. We are acquaintance, not friends, and thankfully we moved out of state. We haven’t seen them in years. Our friends and family now are all red-pilled, traditional, patriot, christians. Given the choice I’ve no doubt the lefty family would report us for the good of ourselves and society. You cannot trust anyone who “thinks” with their emotions and bases their beliefs on MSM.
 

BlastbeatCasanova

Kingfisher
You have the right mindset. Over the last five years, I’ve been reported to local law enforcement by several of those close to me – from parents to romantic partners, for my non-mainstream ideological beliefs. All these reports were escalated to FBI Guardian files and lengthy “National Security” investigations. My rights have been severely curtailed. Trust me from firsthand experience, never, ever speak about controversial ideological matters to anyone other than like-minded Dissidents whom you’d trust with your life. Someone close to me, whom I trusted, was grilled for hours by LE and never said a word. The aforementioned example is the type of person you want in your life.

I can relate to your dad’s experience with the leftist divorce attorney. A few years back, I found myself in a nasty feud with several of people where one of them, a woman, was used as a pawn to hurt my reputation. She filed for a Protection Order and hired the top family law firm in the city to represent her. This attorney was the former DA of this trendy, mid-sized city where the hearing would take place. I hired a local attorney who turned out to be a liberal and did little to help me. The issue pertained to my politically heated texts to her, which were very pro-traditionalism and anti-modernism. After she declined to settle the matter in pre-trial, her request for a permanent injunction was moved to a hearing. During an all-day affair, I was hammered by her counsel for being anti-abortion, anti-LGBT, and anti-feminism. Meanwhile her counsel asked her on the stand whether she was a feminist and she proudly replied with “yes”. At the end of the hearing, the sitting judge said that my views were “disturbing” and have "no place" in our society. My attorney was surprised by the outcome but appeared to be supportive of their opinions rather than mine.

I’ll never work with a non-Christian attorney again.
That sounds like an absolute nightmare. Just for my own curiosity could you elaborate a little on what started the feud, like what drove them to partner up and try and ruin you like that (romance/business partnership that went south, petty beef, etc?). What happened after the trial? I sincerely hope the outcome hasn’t negatively impacted your life in a major way.

As for me, I avoid legitimate leftists like the plague. I have a few casual friends that are liberal, mostly because they are total normies that follow the safe trends and spend their free time binge watching the office and doing dumb normie stuff like that. They don’t have the patience or desire to read or look a little deeper into issues and seek the truth. My parents raised me with reading and books so I have a high tolerance for reading and diving deep and consuming info such as this forum. I’ve come to the realization that a large segment of the population was not conditioned to read and thus relies on screen media for information, which is low effort and inevitably leads to their propaghandization/programming.

I don’t mind socializing with my liberal friends but I don’t discuss my views unless to drop a small red pill if it’s relevant. My close circle is apolitical/right sympathetic or pretty conservative
 

Kitty Tantrum

Woodpecker
Woman
Short answer: yes.

Long answer: still yes.

I think it depends a lot on whether they're aware of and ideologically committed to the ulterior motives of the left - or whether they're just going along with the flow of the social/cultural narrative being pushed.

I have a leftist neighbor who is very dear to me. Our views on things that "ought to be" are very different, but as far as I can tell she bears no ill will because of this - and neither do I. We just don't talk about politics much. When we do it's usually peripheral stuff. There have even been a few times when she's said things like "wow, I never thought about it that way, but you're right." I've seen her spend roughly 0% of her time criticizing people for their politics or beliefs -- and LOADS of her time actively helping and doing nice things for her friends, family, co-workers, neighbors, etc. regardless of what they think or believe.

My older brother is also a bit of a leftist (and gay), and he's one of the best people I know. My dad had a long history of making homophobic comments, etc. before my brother "came out" - and I don't know exactly how that conversation ended up going between them, but there's obviously no love lost. My brother has still pretty much always gone regularly out to my dads house to visit, helps out ($$$ and labor) with projects like roofing and septic stuff, clearing and maintaining land, etc. Then he bought the property when it looked like my dad couldn't keep up with it, so that he could keep living there, to ease his financial burdens, and so the land would stay in the family.

I know a lot of "conservative family values" lip-service type folks who never put their money (time, labor, etc.) where their mouths are like that, to lift up their friends/family/neighbors/communities along with themselves.

I don't go out of my way to befriend leftists (I don't go out of my way to befriend ANYONE, generally speaking), but I also don't let things like simple ignorance or misguidedness prevent me from being friends with people who have proved to have good hearts, and who consistently take action to strengthen their families and local communities.

I DID cut my mother off (temporarily, I hope), because she's the one person who seems to think she's entitled to change how I think and what I believe. But for the most part, I just run my mouth about my own views, and so far most (of the very few) who have stuck around are worth keeping.
 
Can we people of Gods word and truth in good conscience be friends with leftists?
Leftists fall into two categories —
  • Pitiful casualties in the mind war. These individuals have been successfully programmed, and are more or less a "host" for the mind viruses they propagate. They do not think for themselves, because they cannot, it has been stripped from them completely. They occasionally wonder why they are so miserable, but dare not question the orthodoxy of their masters. Bringing them back to light requires a miracle from God. They hate the truth, because they simultaneously cannot see it, and at the same time it blinds them. In the end, their fate is betrayal by the systems they worship. Think Gollum from Lord of the Rings.
  • Genuinely evil people who wish to see you dead, your children raped and brainwashed, and they find that funny. Until they can get that, they will settle for your submission. They are the "virus"
These categories transcend political parties. This is about ideology. Many "right wingers" are "hosts", and much of the right wing establishment is the "virus".

Most people fall into the first category. The second category only really applies to people in positions of power/social influence. "The hosts" more ignorant/apathetic than anything. You can be acquaintances with them, but will be difficult to be friends, because your perception of reality and lifestyle is so fundamentally different from theirs. It will be more difficult to be friends with them as the programming increases in severity.

The second category is your enemy. They will put a hand on your shoulder and a knife to your back. You can be polite, but under no circumstances do you show weakness. No matter what they say, they are not your friends. That stage is over, we are in the end game.

What you want are people who have a great "ideological immune system," people who can easily pinpoint what ideas and social behaviors are driven by certain emotions and ideologies, and what motives could cause such changes. They will be far less susceptible to state programming, which means they will make good friends.
 

Luna Novem

Woodpecker
Woman
We moved somewhat recently to a more purple/conservative place after living somewhere SUPER liberal. It is a super degenerate city on the West Coast that I'm sure you'd laugh at if I told you where it was lol. So there you have people who are quiet (me), people who are moderate but Democrat and go with what is trendy right now but when you talk to them they quietly agree with most things (which is cringy but when family or people I've known for years or neighbors I think its worth it to maintain a friendship), and everyone else is what you describe. Thankfully I don't have to deal with that anymore but for people who live in those areas it's really hard to find likeminded people as they're too afraid to be honest.

My family live there so it was hard leaving them but they're looking into moving now as well. I think maybe this is a blessing so we find likeminded communities, the funny thing about the Left is that it's a circular firing squad so you'll never be quite woke enough and they're changing their views on a daily basis so good luck to those communities!

Also, I'd worry about the conservatives into the hysteria too. Anyone who lives in this irrational fear can report you later.
I am also from a super degenerate city on the West coast; have moved; and am now seeing family want to move to where we are. ;)
 

Julie35

Chicken
Woman
Can we people of Gods word and truth in good conscience be friends with leftists?

I don’t have a ton of friends and most of the few I do have are woefully leftist to varying degrees. Unsurprisingly they are poster girls for the failings of leftist ideologies. Aside from politics though we do have other things in common and things we enjoy doing/ discussing, although it’s getting more difficult to focus on those things. Not sure why these are the people I’ve attracted. I’ve been focusing the past couple of years on fostering new friendships within my religious community with other moms.

For many years I have maintained relationships by pretty much staying silent on political topics, to the point where only recently have some of those close to me been shocked to discover my right leanings. Since the election, and as political tensions continue to rise, I am beginning to more strongly feel the need to cut off communication with extreme leftist family and friends. Or at the very least distance myself considerably.

How are you handling the left in your life?
I have lots of friends on the left and i just don't talk politics
 
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